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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:55 am

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Shadow Dancer wrote:
hop wrote:1. spicy aka raymond claimed VT so he is either VT or mafia and in my mind the best lynch for day 1, 4 or 5 people thought he was scummy enough to vote him so why let a VT claim change that. if you think he is scummy, his claim has to be treated as a lie.
Your logic is really flawed here. You are assuming scum would likely claim VT and you are assuming that a town PR would claim to be a town PR. Both are just assumptions and not neccesarily true.
In fact, scum is very likely to claim cop on D1 and a cop might just bite the bullet and claim VT. In both cases the possible gain is much better than the loss if the gambit does not work.
in a small game like this, fake claiming cop is the wrong move. say scum fake claimed cop, the real cop counter claims and we know right away we got one scum found.

now if the real cop was forced to L-1 and claimed cop, mafia would not even dream of countring his claim because that would put a target on his back right away.

the fact that we were 1 vote away from a lynch and now we are close to a tie vote, is raising a big red flag with me. Just want to make that known where I stand, this raymond wagon disolved super fast, over bascially a VT claim.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:56 am

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I am not entirely sure how far all that is meant as a joke...
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:58 am

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in a small game like this, fake claiming cop is the wrong move. say scum fake claimed cop, the real cop counter claims and we know right away we got one scum found.

now if the real cop was forced to L-1 and claimed cop, mafia would not even dream of countring his claim because that would put a target on his back right away.
I do not want to further discuss scum tactics, I'll adress this in after game talk.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:16 am

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Shadow Dancer wrote:I am not entirely sure how far all that is meant as a joke...
this isn't a joke

Vote shadow
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:22 am

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What I meant is that your reaction ....
Sadly my personality doesn't allow me to do this, I put everything on the table. I don't know how to keep my mouth shut. Ask all my friends, family, co-workers, and even school teachers.

i was always most talkative, Mr. open mouth insert foot, etc etc

that is the problem with people who have high IQ, they have no common sense ;)
and yes before anyone else points it out, i do think very highly of myself, some would even call me narcistic, but I prefer to call myself Mr. Lightman. :cool:
...kind of frightens me...
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:35 am

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intelligent people usually scare scum
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:38 am

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HopOnMyJoystick wrote:and yes before anyone else points it out, i do think very highly of myself, some would even call me narcistic, but I prefer to call myself Mr. Lightman. :cool:
oh brother :roll:

I prefer bigheaded.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:39 am

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Andrew and SD both on 3 votes right now.

Andrew would be lynched at deadline for getting there first.


However, BOTH babyspice and Enigma are not voting at the moment. I'm willing to bet at least one of these two is scum fence-sitting. Not voting this late into the deadline is just anti-town and scummy. I demand that you vote if you read this before deadline. Make a choice: A vote for shadow dancer or Andrew if you have to. It's more pro town to put a 4th vote on one of them giving us more information rather than denying us information by not voting at all.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:40 am

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nameloc1986 wrote:
HopOnMyJoystick wrote:and yes before anyone else points it out, i do think very highly of myself, some would even call me narcistic, but I prefer to call myself Mr. Lightman. :cool:
oh brother :roll:

I prefer bigheaded.
yeah I have a big head
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:40 am

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One vote more on me and I'll claim immideately. I am online all the time.
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:42 am

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I doubt Enigma or Andrew will be around, both live in Australia where it is currently 5am on west coast (me) and 8am eastern states (assuming them)
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:45 am

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Considering that both of them are currently not voting I expect them to sheck in before DL. Anything else would be anti-town as hell.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:48 am

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In all seriousness, I just did a quick re-read and would be happy with an Enigma lynch.

Reasons:
Has spent most of the game "teaching" people and explaining things, hasn't done a huge amount of scum hunting but has opted to fence-sit more. And when he has scum-hunted it seems forced (See him attacking silverbullet when silverbullet was asking about whether he should hammer Raymond or not).

Now for someone who has been posting huge wall posts and going on about pro-town play all game and teaching people and has even had an impact influencing town with regards to lynches... Where is his vote??? Surely someone who has spent the game doing long-lawyer-like wall posts and explaining what town should be doing, should know that 2 hours to deadline, you should have a vote down. In fact, we should have lynched by now, but that's another matter. He has known when the deadline is, but has not voted for anyone. Baby Spice is slightly more understandable because he/she subbed in recently, (although I still find it suspicious) but enigma's circumstances is scummy as hell. He has taken a teacher/pro-town influencer roll, but his actions contradict this.

He has even lurked the last couple of days around deadline, while I realize that can't be used as a solid scum tell, on top of him not voting and contradicting his talk with his actions, I hope I have found a scum.

VOTE: Enigma



Note: I am still around up until deadline if needed to change my vote to a wagon to ensure a lynch.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:50 am

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HopOnMyJoystick wrote:intelligent people usually scare scum
Nope, the intelligence part left me cold... Don't allow yourself to be fooled by thinking you are cleverer than every one else.
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:54 am

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LOL... DP starting a new waggon 2 hours prior to DL. You're rrrrrealy wicked ;P I think I begin to like you after all.
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:57 am

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Well on re-reading I asked myself... Have I read anything or have there been in actions (votes etc) that is scummier than Enigma's lawyer-teacher act leading the town then not voting with 2 hours to deadline and not having a post on the last 2 days before deadline... It wasn't a hard answer for me.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:58 am

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I must say this has been the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONGEST day of mafia I have ever seen! :roll:
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:02 am

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nameloc1986 wrote:I must say this has been the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONGEST day of mafia I have ever seen! :roll:
I am not used to playing with 3 week deadlines, games I play are no longer than 1 week deadline for day.

a game I am running on another site has 24 hour day deadline and 12 hour nights. :cop:
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:03 am

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27 pages for D1 is impressive, iguess - especially for newbie game, i.e. any game with only 9 players... I predict it'll finally be 28 pages :P
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:03 am

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Vote Count

andrew94 (3): Shadow Dancer, nameloc1986, bhavitgoyal
Shadow Dancer (2): silverbullet999, HopOnMyJoystick
HopOnMyJoystick (1): andrew94
Enigma (1): DavidParker

not voting: Baby Spice, Enigma
alive: 9 majority: 5
D1 Deadline: AD 2010-10-05 04:06:00.000 PM (Tue) Pacific Daylight Time
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:04 am

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Oh hai all. Lucky I went to sleep early last night .. so I could wake up early to the excitement that is this.

Firstly term has started and I'm no longer on holidays so I won't be as frequent as I was for the past few weeks. Reading through all this stuff now.
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:06 am

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There goes half my case:
Unvote, Vote: Shadow Dancer
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:06 am

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East coast Oz is 08:00 am, and it's a school day so this is as much of a check-in as anything else.

Interesting change DP.

Vote Hop


Worries me most, but I am still at the skimming stage, but is my best candidate for scum atm.

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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:12 am

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Look's like it's up to Enigma's vote.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:16 am

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