Mini 1042 - Skillville - GAME OVER!

[drmyshottyizsik]

I can't tell you how I'm not scum untill you tell me why I am scum!!!!

[DemonHybrid]

I can't tell you how I'm not scum untill you tell me why I am scum!!!!

So you slept walked through the last 5 pages.

Explains your logic quite well...

[drmyshottyizsik]

No I did not, the last 5 pages have had like nothing about me being scummy!!!
Just you guys talking about how dumb i am

[Zachrulez]

I've already stated a clear reason for voting for you in the post I voted for you.

I'm not going to make a big case for you to "destroy" because big cases are overrated.

[Untrod Tripod]

No I did not, the last 5 pages have had like nothing about me being scummy!!!
Just you guys talking about how dumb i am

how about you "tear down" the point that you would be a liability in a late-game situation.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I may be, I won't denny that, but Vig me tonight if I am, or Vig me tomorow.
But my lylo record is pretty good

[Untrod Tripod]

people have let you stick around for a Lylo? 0_o

the only thing I've heard about your Lylo record is you self-hammering as town...

[drmyshottyizsik]

OMFG!!!!!! That was once!!!!
Other than that I've won three times and lost once. (unofficial)

[Zachrulez]

Anyway, since you're big on cases Shotty, where's your case on me?

You know while you've completely ignored the development of my interactions with Horrordude, I actually noticed upon looking back that you never really mentioned him at all during day 1. (Your d1 attacks on me could feasibly be argued as a chainsaw defense in light of Horror's flip.)

[Zachrulez]

And the posting has gotten so frequent it took me 3 times to post that...

[Untrod Tripod]

OMFG!!!!!! That was once!!!!
Other than that I've won three times and lost once. (unofficial)

provide links. just because you won doesn't mean you played well.

[Zachrulez]

I'm intrigued that regarding lylo, shotty has an extensive memory of his meta. (I figure this is relevant cause regarding the point about Scott he claimed he "forgot")

[DemonHybrid]

Anyway, since you're big on cases Shotty, where's your case on me?

Oh, it's a "gut scum read", don't worry about that.

Saved shotty some yelling.

[drmyshottyizsik]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... &start=900
Lylo starts here^^^ I won btw

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... &start=550
I won again^^

ok the other games I'm in that are in lylo are on going. unless i missed a game that finished.

[drmyshottyizsik]

My Case on Zach

vote: Aldusskel

L-1!

No claim. Somebody hammer.

Woo real vote time!

Unvote
Vote: Socrates

Yay! Reasons?

FoS: Socrates

He's obviously looking for a reaction. You should know better, I think the pressure caught up to you.

Yet you voted for me. I'm presuming you didn't like my unvote because you didn't actually explain the vote. (There was a reason for my vote as I've obviously alluded to, I just haven't explained it yet.)
The whole vote now and explain later when someone calls me out on it, gambit only benifits scum, if you have a reason for something say it asap, don't clutter the thread with a page of talking about why you haven't said why, and distract people from the topic at hand.

Did you think I was serious? Did you think a hammer would actually happen?

Did you think a hammer would actually happen when you put him at lynch -1? It's a possibility whether you think it will happen or not.

+1 Scum points.

Please, I invite you to dig yourself into a deeper hole. Arguing with a buddy won't help out.

Whatever...

Ok Zach here, why did you just blow this off? The only reason you would fight back with a "the only reason someone would do that is if they were scum", is if you were scum. I feels like you don't explain your reasons for saying almost because you are the only scum not on that wagon and you know if you were to hammer it you would be right in the spot light.

You were counting on an unvote when you made that vote?

Risky way to get reactions... but you seem genuinely interested in getting reads on people. Leaning town.

Vote: DemonHybrid

Too confident/certain in early reads. Getting a bad vibe from it.

Have you played other games on MS Demon?

Confidence is not a scum tell, it just means he is sticking to his guns and not jumping all over the place like oppertunist scum(aka zach)

uhh no.

Unvote:

5 votes is more than enough for the reason I voted for him. The reason however is not lynch worthy this early in the game.

You had reasons? Reasons that were/are genuinely worth 5 votes...? I think I'd quite like to here this.

I said 5 votes was

more

than enough didn't I?

I'll be more inclined to explain my reasoning when Alduskkel actually posts some more.

Now this is almost fishing and it kind of makes me mad. Town should/would explain his or her case on someone, and then wait for them to respond to the case. Scum should/do vote and wait for a reaction a a phrase that they can then blow out of preportion and throw in peoples faces.

Besides if you read Alduskkel's contribution to the game to this point, you can probably make a good guess to why I'm voting him without me actually explaining.

No No No NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Just what is wrong with your mind?

Anyway, Alduskkel's posts thus far have seemed to do nothing but promote RVS.

Yes in a RVS supporting it is a great thing. Scum want the RVS to die quickly so no convo's will really start. And if you are so anti-RVS(which you haven't been in other games) why did you RQS? You just sat there and insult him for trying to do something.


And all that's left on zach if how much he active lurks the rest of the game[/quote]
NOPE STILL GOING TO YELL!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER THIS ZACH?!?!?!

[Zachrulez]

What exactly is there for me to defend against in that case? Most of your points that you call as evidence of me being scum are game theory points. (Where you call me scummy by proposing that my opinions on game theory are wrong.) You are attacking me for my play style more than anything else in that "case".

[Untrod Tripod]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... &start=900
Lylo starts here^^^ I won btw

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... &start=550
I won again^^

ok the other games I'm in that are in lylo are on going. unless i missed a game that finished.

all these prove is that you play like an idiot as scum. you didn't win those games, you just managed not to lose.

piss poor meta case, dude. Also, you can't count Lylo victories that HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET to your total. Jesus tapdancing christ.

[drmyshottyizsik]

@ Zach- so you are saying that play style can't make you scummy?
Well with the same logic now there is nothing against me

@UT- I play well in lylo period, and I won

[Untrod Tripod]

@ Zach- so you are saying that play style can't make you scummy?
Well with the same logic now there is nothing against me

other than that your meta case in your Lylo games you provided is that you're playing the exact same way now (right down to all the extra !!! when someone calls you out on it).

@UT- I play well in lylo period, and I won

no, you don't. you play Lylo the exact same way you're playing right now. Flailing around and drawing attention to yourself. If you think making every other player go "...goddammit shotty" every time you post is playing well, you're an idiot.

You can play well and lose. You can also play badly and win. End of fucking story. Were I you, I would not brag about the games you linked.

[Zachrulez]

@ Zach- so you are saying that play style can't make you scummy?
Well with the same logic now there is nothing against me

@UT- I play well in lylo period, and I won

Take any point you've made against me and explain what I would potentially have to gain as scum by performing said action/saying said thing.

I can easily do this regarding your claim in response to Scott. Giving the town the impression that Scott only has experience with you as town makes him look worse for wanting to lynch you for the reasons he stated when he actually has 2 games of experience with you where you were scum. (Hence your action there has a clear scum motivation.)

[DemonHybrid]

Shotty, none of that in that case MATTERS.

Do you know why?

Because you said you have a "gut scum read. not sure why" on Zach just recently.

Can we lynch shotty and get this over with?

[DemonHybrid]

Vollkan, are you going to help us out here or are you going to continue to soft-defend him by saying he's playing to his VI meta instead of acting genuinely scummy? I'm starting to think you're his partner.

[Skill006]

Prodding Socrates

[DemonHybrid]

Prodding Socrates

So, what's tomorrow's avatar? lol

[Skill006]

Good question. I am the most inconsistent person ever XD XD XD