Open 242 - Friends and Enemies Mafia (Over!)

[gandalf5166]

Hmmmmm........... I had forgotten about the vote switch. *sigh*
I guess we wait for BM to get back then.

[Haylen]

*repeatedly hits my head on a wall irl*

I have explained the voting thing enough. Zwet and SSBF were at equal votes, it was very close to deadline, I voted for SSBF in order to get a lynch because I only counted a few active people at the time. I wasn't going to wait for a lurker (at that time) to show up and vote for one of them. THAT was the thought process behind my vote.

[Jahudo]

Right, zwet and SSBF were at equal votes without your vote. You could have bumped either one to 4.

And yes, CSL was the lurker. No telling if he'd login to make any stance, so you couldn't count on him to push a wagon to 6.

Which made zwet, darklight and SSSS the active ones. It was clear who zwet would vote for, so you could bump that wagon to 5 with yourself on it. And Darklight was suspicious of zwet, so you could have also bumped that wagon to 5 with his help.

But SSSS was still an unknown. He was active but hadn't chosen a side yet. So why not ask him if he'd like to join the wagon you preferred? Why make that choice for him by saying the SSBF wagon was the viable one?

Or did you also think SSSS was a lurker? Did you think the only way to get a lynch was for both you and darklight to switch wagons?

Heck, why didn't you ask me to switch? I had posted just before you saying a SSBF lynch did not look as viable. I hypothesized switching to zwet and putting him to L-1. But you didn't ask me to. Why not?

[CSL]

Uh, can we post more, please? Thank you.

[Haylen]

Seriously? It was 12 hours since the post earlier, when most people are sleeping and there was only an hours difference between mine and Jahudo's post.

If you want people to communicate, then why not post some content yourself? Ask some questions whilst I note down that you're taking the back seat here and fading away into the dark.

[CSL]

Battle Mage is obviously not going to be back.

He needs to be either replaced or hammered, IMO.

[Haylen]

Battle Mage is probably still hungover from our night out last night. He only got back from Turkey yesterday, give him a chance.

[CSL]

I give him until the end of Monday, my time.

[Haylen]

Until you vote him? lol

[CSL]

I already am.

[Socrates]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Battle Mage (2) - CSL, Haylen
Haylen (1) - Jahudo

Not Voting: gandalf, Battle Mage

With 5 alive it is 3 to lynch.

Battle mage's V/LA has expired. He will be prodded.

[Battle Mage]

Haha we have our two scumbags then. I appreciate you guys waiting, but it seems like there was no need. Gandalf and Jahudo are confirmed town, therefore Haylen and CSL are scum. Shouldve seen this coming a long time ago, given they both made it this far. lol

Responses:

Guys, I can pretty much prove that Battle Mage is one of the last two scum.

After CSL voted for him, nobody quick hammered. We all had a chance too as everybody posted. This suggests that either BM is scum with CSL or with Jahudo. Either way, logic and time indicates that Battle Mage is scum. I would be willing to bet that if BM is scum then CSL is scum with him as Jahudo is one of my current town reads.

Rofl! I wasn't at -1. How the hell is anyone going to quickhammer me? For the record, because scum have no ability to co-ordinate timings during the day, they probably wouldnt risk such a strategy. But evidently, we're looking at something completely different.

The most hilarious part of this post is that Haylen claims the lack of a quickhammer means im scum, which assumes CSL is town. She then goes on, to claim that CSL is my partner, which makes her original point defunct. lol

I'm gonna hammer, Haylen speaks the truth. Hence, she's definitely town. I don't know about you, but I don't bring up things that confirm my partner as scum in LyLo after everyone else has forgotten them(events, not player, since BM is obviously a suspect).

Speak now, or forever hold your piece.

*punches wall repeatedly*

I'm starting to understand why you're still alive.

Sorry but there's only so much a person can do when they're moving house. Also, I have answered everything put forward to me and given my opinions. I have no committed any scumtells either. Now why am I scum?

This is bs. You've spent this entire game making excuses for inactivity. Answering questions and giving opinions is a million miles from protown. Have a pleasant death hun.

Battle Mage is obviously not going to be back.

He needs to be either replaced or hammered, IMO.

Yes, because i'm so threatened by your incredible strength of argument that i flaked from the site. Gimme a break!

Vote: Haylen

MVP goes to Jahudo. Gandalf, you will never get an easier win than this if you engage your brain.

Love,
BM

[gandalf5166]

Problem, BM, is that Jahudo could still be scum if he's scum with you, and you could still be scum. I am going to start a reread now, will be posting my thoughts.

[gandalf5166]

Actually, I don't have time to make a WoT. But I will be rereading.

[Jahudo]

There's burden of proof with all our arguments of, "I think X is town so by process of elimination these two people must be scum", so I think that route would be unreliable.

My advice is to focus on SSBF. Only CSL was off the wagon so someone had to be bussing. What do you think of our timing and our reasoning for joining that wagon?

[gandalf5166]

Okay, I reread D1. I want BM to do something. Show me the SSBF case again. I just want to see something.

[CSL]

That post by BM just confirmed him as scum with Jahudo. GG.

BM, why is Jahudo confirmed town?

[gandalf5166]

That post by BM just confirmed him as scum with Jahudo. GG.

BM, why is Jahudo confirmed town?

Because he hasn't hammered BM.

[CSL]

If BM flips scum, then he's scum.

He'll keep Haylen alive, and they'll both hammer me. Scum already have this game.

[gandalf5166]

What?

[Haylen]

CSL, I am leaning a you town atm. You are 0 scum, Jahudo is 100% scum. If BM flips scum, then Jahudo is obv scum and you are obv town. I am currently at L-1, if you were scum, you would have voted for me. BM and Jahudo are voting for me, you haven't hammered and Gandalf is confirmed town anyway. The only way you could be scum is if you're scum with me which is impossible.

[Haylen]

By leaning I mean I am convinced. My thought process developed through that post and i remembered you hadn't hammered me but I didn't edit go back and edit the first sentence of my post only the percentages

[gandalf5166]

Oh, hadn't noticed that Haylen was at L1. So the possible scumteams are BM/Jahudo or CSL/Haylen? that makes things easier. Almost certain BM is scum then.

[CSL]

There's nothing else to be done but BM getting hammered and flipping scum.

[gandalf5166]

Yeah, you're right. If CSL and Haylen are scum, I will not only eat my hat, I will choke on it.

VOTE: BM

Now please tell me I didn't just lose the game.