Mikeburnfire wrote:Actually, CA, I was NOT the last to claim. Didn't wait for the 'mass claim'? Hell, I kicked it off. And yeah, I claimed one of the few pro-town roles that haven't been claimed. I did it because that's what I am. If I were mafia, I wouldn't be stupid enough to claim roleblocker when I was doing a perfectly good job as an ordinary townie. But I'm a firm believer in LYNCH ALL LIARS rule, so I revealed myself. I blocked Nightfall on night one because all he did when I asked for a defense was repeat himself. I blocked Stewie because he cast the final vote on the second day, after making sure only one more was needed.
Mikeburnfire wrote:I claimed roleblocker because it felt like it would benefit the town the most. I weighed the choices very carefully. If I stayed 'townie', then suspicion would pass me up and I had the chance of roleblocking a few people in the night phase. But everyone kept saying that 'any information would be beneficial to the town', so I bit the bullet and came out. And I'm glad I did, dispite what you all say, because it disproved somebody else.
Mikeburnfire wrote:Falcone: Nope, I claimed RB because I thought it would benefit the town. There are times when lying to the town benefits the town. Seldom though they are, I considered this one. If I were a doctor then I would have claimed townie because I can still protect confirmed innocents while remaining undercover. I would have lied, I admit it, and I’m not ashamed.
Could everyone please take the time to read these three quotes very carefully? First Mike says he believes in LAL, then he says there are times it's correct to lie as townie. First he says he claimed blocker because he is a blocker, then he says he claimed because "it benefits the town". He also uses a WIFOM argument when he says he could have easily stayed hidden as mafia. This proves nothing and additionally, I think townie-roleblocker is the natural claim for a scum-roleblocker. There's also a bit of craplogic in his reason for blocking Stewie N1; I'd consider it more scummy if someone placed the final vote on a townie without checking the votecount. As Stewie did it, he took implicit responsibility for his vote by acknowledging he knew it was the final one.
Commodore Amazing wrote:Nice try, Seol, jumping on Falcone's suspicion of me like that. First of all, my vote came before mikeburnfire confirmed the contradiction between him and Nightfall. I thought it was a mistake. Second, I didn't even come up with the idea of lynching the roleblocker instead of Nightfall until the post after I voted (402 vs. 406). I'd be happy to lynch mikeburnfire instead of Nightfall. Third, I didn't think the lynching committee would go for lynching the claimed roleblocker. I have very little reason to believe that mikeburnfire and Nightfall are town, but they might look at mikeburnfire as a second chance if we get the lynch wrong. In that case, I figured they'd want to go for the obvious scum: Nightfall.
Commodore, you are scum. 1) It doesn't matter that your vote came before Mike's confirmation of the contradiction between him and Nightfall. Mike had already said he blocked Nightfall N1 and Nightfall had already said he was blocked N2. The first thing you should think in that situation is: "One of them is lying", not "That must be a mistake". 2) You're flat out lying here: You already considered lynching the mafia roleblocker in post #402 3) You still leave the possibility open that both Mike and Nighfall are innocent. That's impossible for two reasons: It would make the town much too strong, and more importantly, that would make five innocents, which automatically makes you scum.
I think the scum is:
- one of Mike and Nightfall
- Commodore
- one of Seol and Stoofer
On this basis, I'll formulate the following Cunning Plan: We lynch Mike. If he's scum, Stewie vigs Commodore. If he's innocent, Stewie vigs Nightfall. Nightfall should investigate Seol.
I propose killing Mike before Nightfall because I think it's more likely that he's scum than Nightfall, and because leaving the scum-roleblocker alive could be fatal for us. I'm not 100 % certain I'm right about this, but at least we're guaranteed to still be in the game tomorrow. Oh, and as for Nightfall's investigation, I'm not putting too much faith in that, because there's still a chance he's scum, or that he's not sane, or that Seol is a godfather.
If there are no objections, I'll be voting for Mike in my next post.
Because I was Roleblocked night 1 regardless.
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