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[Porochaz]

vote karen

the bitch.

[Porochaz]

Continuing the trend, from this moment forth vezok will be known as valerie.

[Porochaz]

Vote Porochaz and Ooba

Ooba isnt in this game.

[Porochaz]

What doesnt make sense to you?

[Porochaz]

I got a penny stuck up my nose.

[Porochaz]

to prove a point only

vote Shanba, Ghostwriter and Valerie

[Porochaz]

Well my initial vote disappeared I want to know where it went...

[Porochaz]

Sounds like my first wife.

[Porochaz]

Ghostwriter: Valerie, I like to change VI's names to different names.

I feel I may have had something to do with that... sorry bbm.

In other news, point proven

unvote everyone

[Porochaz]

That I could vote multiple times.

[Porochaz]

someone asked.

[Porochaz]

So, UK, I was being antogonistic because, if we all remember my meta, I do love the wagons. Take away the threat of lynching, and I kind of struggle on how to make a meaningful impact. I've never been one for questions and tl;drs. I hope you all understand that I will be finding my feet through much of this game.

In an attempt to achieve something: Prozac, mate, do you still call for Valerious executions today based of UK's early posts, or has she slightly relieved you of said bloodlust?

I dont care much for vezok and Im glad he's been replaced with a player with some brains that don't slightly ooze out of any orifice in a sort of pinky liquid mush. However I never called for an execution on him. I voted him to prove a point about how many people we could vote but that was it.

[Porochaz]

Why are you suggesting hidden votes? What would be the point of them in Kingmaker?

[Porochaz]

UncertainKitten in for Valerie.

[Porochaz]

You have no reason to state this, your reasons from what I can see is just vezok-hate which whilst I fully support and encourage, you don't give any reasons, and since we have the altogether much better UK in his place, I don't really understand. You obviously not reading whats happened thus far either.

vote MBF

[Porochaz]

Feel free to suggest other people, noting that I will not be executing any of the following: Shanba, mikeburnfire, Panzerjager, springlullaby

I appreciate the chance to continue the game, but... why would you rule me out? Probably not because I seem like the best town player? Is it because we have a history?

Because I don't see any reasons for your actions that make me particularly intent on executing you today.

Non reasoned (or nonsensical) vote, not reading the game at all and the minor role fishing at the start not doing it for you then?

[Porochaz]

I thought my opinion was clear in that I don't know why MBF is not on your list. He would be my choice out of everyone.

Out of the four, Im not even particularly sure why your considering UA, Omans been useless thus far, but were all at a pretty low standard, I can understand UK, I didn't particularly like the aftermath of you not answering her question and Ghostwriter, stupid answer to your question, not great thought process if town, fairly useless as well. I'd choose Ghostwriter, but I wouldn't be too upset if you chose UK. I would view a kill on Oman a waste and as I say I dont understand UA.

[Porochaz]

I felt that persisting with it when it was clear that he wasnt going to answer wasn't the best response, but more than that, I get the feeling you think he's scum simply due to this incident where if you have had any experience playing with him or talking to him in GD you would find he fits the genre of "stubborn grouchy old man". If you want a quick example, I had a really cheap frozen burger tonight for tea (dinner). JDodge will wonder (despite my budget and time constraints) why I don't make my own and will still not understand despite my best efforts. (Inane I know but 3am its the best example I could come up with) It was something he said he might do, he didnt really give reasons to begin with. I had no problem with it. It might be antitown as you initially suggested but is it scummy? Not really.

[Porochaz]

Quick question, how common is scum kingmaker? Not the king itself, but the N0 kingmaker?

You realise, right that there was no N0

[Porochaz]

I agree, and I have no reason at all to change my vote from the previous day. His defence is pretty terrible

vote MBF

[Porochaz]

Im going to state my reasons without looking at F.F.'s post. He enters the game and makes 2 rolefishing posts. Jdodge was a known role and what MBF was asking wasn't his info to glean. Then iso 3, brought in his hatred of vezok. Which initially could have been a joke but it-just-kept-going. Carries on iso 4, 5, 6... 6 "vezok is scum". Why? Because the only reason I can see is that he just doesn't like the way vezok plays. Then we get onto the fact he is not paying attention, which reinforces the fact he is voting vezok for no reason. When he finds out that vezok has been replaced he still goes after UK, like a dog with a bone, but no reasons still.

Day 2 we have the pandering to jdodge. The fact he had to put in that he didn't kill UK, which I feel is slightly weird. Why would you have to clarify it when noone suggested it? Then gives reasons for why scum would kill her. This post alone makes me feel weird about MBF and would warrant a vote. (iso 9)

More pandering to Jay in iso 10, there is also this "I didn't play well" attitude, that is a recurring themes in his posts. He talks about the hypocrisy of some of his reasons and in this post he says that scot "is even worse than me". Give it a rest.

Moving onto F.F.'s case as it is iso 12, and hard to ignore. The "joking around" during the rvs stage wasn't really joking was it, you fished more than once and the first time JDodge mentioned it directly.

I didnt mention the fakeclaim as it didn't initially particularly seem off to me, however F.F. isn't attacking you for bad play here. Setting yourself up to lurk day 1, isn't good and setting up a claim, is an interesting one as soon as you get a little pressure.

The next quote where you suggest that you didn't vote UK out of nowhere is true, you didn't. But you kinda did vote vezok out of nowhere. You gave no reasons for it. You didnt even try to invent something but you kept at it and I still have no idea why.

The next few points regarding fence sitting and questioning I have no preoblem with however the asking jdodge why he is voting scot, when you didnt bother explaining why VZ/UK was in your lynch sites interests me.

Your defence of the case was minimal at best and I think in the last few paragraphs Ive answered your question of me. I agree lurking usually = null tell but don't get to ahead of yourself it's not a town tell. This is where the self meta comes in, and as scot said, self meta's suck.

So yeah, fishing, blatant lack of caring, going after an easy target even when they get replaced, pandering to jdodge, iso 10, poor defence.

Thats why Im voting.

[Porochaz]

vote: Scotmany

A bit OMGUSy, I admit, but if I'm not voting then I'm not helping, and both Scot and Flave are pushing a terrible case on me.

I still don't see the case against UA. The self vote is stupid, but doesn't make him scum.

Interesting you ignoring me.

[Porochaz]

To be honest, he hadn't even noticed me until I pointed it out to him.

[Porochaz]

Jay, Im not really sure what I can add that I havent already, beyond the fact he hasn't really given a great defence to anyone who has questioned/attackedc him.

[Porochaz]

scot is an appealing vote but not yet.

[Porochaz]

Your posts surrounding your vote got me confused into thinking scot had four votes, with spring making a fifth, I wasn't ready to lynch scot over a minor reason. I was mistaken, he currently has 3 votes on him. However Im not going to be bullied into voting for someone because your having one of your hissy fits.

[Porochaz]

I didnt mention the fakeclaim as it didn't initially particularly seem off to me, however F.F. isn't attacking you for bad play here. Setting yourself up to lurk day 1, isn't good and setting up a claim, is an interesting one as soon as you get a little pressure.

What is this garbage I keep hearing about some kind of 'fakeclaim'? I didn't claim anything, other than that my flavor doesn't match up with my role. Nothing has been setup, and nothing has been ruled out. I could claim to be Donnie Darko the Vanilla Townie, or I could claim Brittany Spears the NK-immune Vigilante.

I think this post confirms it's a joke.

[Porochaz]

Really? I would have thought you, being one of the more experience members of mafiascum would have taken a step back and thought about the circumstances and played it a lot better than you did. Hence why I have a problem with it.

However NK immune millar vig is probably the most likely role to be in this game.

[Porochaz]

I like the irony from the person who gets overly aggressive or flakes out a large majority of his games.

[Porochaz]

Your recently revised reading on me is something Im going to have to change back. As for JDodge, Im just going to let him do his thing until someone else comes along and pisses him off. I would be very iffy to disbelieve Scots claim in a BBM/Oman game. I fully expect there to be a NK immune Millar Vig. I feel Panzer made his want to lynch scot too strongly for my tastes, along with what I feel is a very "coasting" attitude and 5 posts.

vote Panzer

I also want to look through JDodge when I can build my enthusiasm up enough and when I dont feel pissed off at him.

[Porochaz]

Do you want to iso me again, hmm? Cause you forget my post on mbf.

My point was, I think a NKIMV is likely in a BBM or a Oman game. Your also misrepping what I said. I dont care if someone is pushing scot (in wagon form). Which is essentially not a hugely great reason.

I would certainly like to see a scot lynch.

Is pushing for a lynch, now come off it, we are seriously considering lynching someone over what is a joke or not. You haven't even made a case for me beyond lurking and a point that I clarified above. I feel I have posted enough in a game where in the first day it was less about actually playing mafia and more about pandering to you before you shoot someone at random (or from a shortlist of random), now you feel like lording it over us all still, I made a case about mbf a few days ago, Im now voting panzer, your so big on people not pulling their weight, why not him. You take pot shots at me when I have nothing to do with your conversation, your opinions are ludacris, 90% sure on panzer, in 5 posts?(and not particularly sure about GW either) Im glad we have the mafia god in our midst. Oh wait, we don't. Cause it seems like you need Shanba's opinions pretty much all the time. Why is that? Why not sl or ua, he's not posting much, or me?

Now what next,

witty

retort back, hmmm?

[Porochaz]

Don't like either wagon. I liked Flava's case on MBF (despite it being wrong) and Im still failing to see the big case on scot beyond the joke incident.

[Porochaz]

I was happy to stay off the wagons. I had no reason to vote either of you. The scot case was full of bs and a weak start and I felt F.F's case on MBF was town and similar to what I believed at the time. Your numbers are totally arbitrary though, I mean how long is a piece of a string?

[Porochaz]

Yes but as its an arbitrary bit of string, it's a but useless, for all I care you could stand on a box in the middle of times square with a megaphone and yell it at people. I would still go, "well those are nice numbers he has invented to make an argument that I cant possibly make a logical answer to"

[Porochaz]

I'm noticing JD is quiet now that everyone realizes what a fraud he is.

We should lynch him

Drunk but your being a bit useless just now...

[Porochaz]

eggnogfas naked party time

[Porochaz]

Why?

Did I see you get on a bus tonight Shanba? Went out for Halloween down North Bridge and got overly excited cause I thought I saw you.

[Porochaz]

I won't be voting until spring lullaby comes back however as panz people suggests he is innocent and for I feel gut wise shanba is also. So its a choice between one of both of you. I am more inclined to vote myko at the moment. A case forthwith, when I can find the time and effort. Im LA atm as well.

[Porochaz]

Hello! I have no intention of reading this game! Someone want to get me up to speed!?

Come on cayke, its 20 pages. Im fairly sure the time spent just oggling your own breasts could be better spent here.

[Porochaz]

And yes I understand that it may not help you in any way, but as a common courtesy to the others who actually, you know want to complete this game and have been playing this game for 20 pages, it would be nice if, as a replacement, you would look at it. Cause this great big favour your doing for us is not so big if you aren't going to live up to your promise. I understand if at 90 pages or even at 50 you go "I can't read all that, where should I read from?" but 20 pages, if you can't read that, you should replace out and we should find someone better.

[Porochaz]

Oh god I dont want you to make a wall of text. I just want you to actually be able to make informed decision.

[Porochaz]

BOOBIEEEEEEES!!!

Cayke has BOOOOBBBBIIIIIIIEEEEEEES.

I found out today I have had a lot to drink, my first pub crawl, (really) and I drank a lot more than I thought was possible, the keys are sliding from beneath me and all is going dark in tis world apart from BBM his flame(axe) guides me through this dark period, or something. I hate self service checkouts. Where is the person, I like face to face contact. Like when I headbutt someone. I have found drunken psychopath wotrks well for me.

Did you see that man with a fucking goat for a head, he was like a goatman. Except in reverse. Like a zebra. He had a coat of shiny pebbles, like a fucking stripey horse. A STRIPEY HORSE I TELL YOU. In the end though, everyone had sex.

The end.

Reviews of my life story would be appreciated.

[Porochaz]

Jesus...

[Porochaz]

Goddamn it the last scum is Shanba... If I am around tomorrow/if there is a tomorrow I will prove it.

[Porochaz]

Crap I thought that was lynch.

vote shanba

[Porochaz]

Well first, if there is a cult - as Omans role suggests, there is likely to be only 1 scum left.

Second, Panzer being cleared doesn't really mean anything here.

Third, the fact that you are setting me up for the next day doesn't have town shanbas motivations behind it.

Why do I think your scum, however? Im going to take a gambit here after a night to think about it. I think you know why I think your scum, because think I made it damn obvious to you alone, in the hope that you were town. However, I am an Inventor, n0, I gave scotmany some viagra, rohypnol and a pair of curtains. N1, I gave Jay, a hamster tied to a megaphone. (I think, it involved a hamster, a megaphone and a piece of string) and N2, I gave Shanba a toy bus.

I minorly breadcrumb here:

The next quote where you suggest that you didn't vote UK out of nowhere is true, you didn't. But you kinda did vote vezok out of nowhere. You gave no reasons for it. You didnt even try to invent something but you kept at it and I still have no idea why.

And here I start listing the things I give to Jay...

I was happy to stay off the wagons. I had no reason to vote either of you. The scot case was full of bs and a weak start and I felt F.F's case on MBF was town and similar to what I believed at the time. Your numbers are totally arbitrary though, I mean how long is a piece of a string?

Yes but as its an arbitrary bit of string, it's a but useless, for all I care you could stand on a box in the middle of times square with a megaphone and yell it at people. I would still go, "well those are nice numbers he has invented to make an argument that I cant possibly make a logical answer to"

Obviously hamster is a bit harder to fit into a post.

The proof, beyond the fact he pretty much stops going for me is in the fact he speaks in capitals all the following day, which I assume is the megaphone:

BY THE WAY, SINCE MY DAYCOP WAS BLOCKED BY BEING KIDNAPPED, I THINK IT'S P SAFE TO SAY THAT THE KIDNAPPER IS LIKELY SCUM AND PANZER IS THUS CLEAR, WHICH FLUSHES OUT NICELY WITH MY INNOCENT

I LIKE HOW I MANAGED TO TELEGRAPH MY RESULTS FOR TWO STRAIGHT DAYS WITHOUT ANYONE FIGURING ME OUT. THAT'S FUCKING TALENT RIGHT THERE IF I DO BOOST MY OWN EGO

Where this fits in with Shanba is that I make it clear that he recieved a toy bus from me, which should all but clear me.

Why?

Did I see you get on a bus tonight Shanba? Went out for Halloween down North Bridge and got overly excited cause I thought I saw you.

I mean apart from anything else, I haven't seen Shanba before, how do I know what he looks like? (FWAN possibly) and why would I have this conversation in scumchat? Seems like something I would do rather than delay the excitement in a thread at seeing another scummer.

He knew I gave him the box making me an inventor, the fact he is still pushing suspicion onto me, makes him scum.

[Porochaz]

Jesus Christ Myko give me 13 minutes...

[Porochaz]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news. But Cayke is a man and those are melons down his top.