Mini 1046 - Murder in the Desert (Game Over!)

[DemonHybrid]

I completely agree.

[WeaponsofMassConstruction]

Cool.

I claim vanilla townie if it matters.

[charter]

Who wants to claim the glory for themself?

[Slaxx]

/uses non existent double voting powers to hammer

[Parama]

Yeah, WOMC is at L-2 btw.

[Parama]

Wait gah I just remembered something

unvote

Weapons is probably town, and I really need to reread.

[charter]

Why is he probably town?

[Slaxx]

Woah clue me in please O.o

[Parama]

Interactions with Bub. Bub actually made some strong attacks against him and Weapons had good rebuttal. Plus, Bub got REALLY hung up on a question he posed to Weapons.

[Slaxx]

Alright examples please oo

If this is the case then Parama is even more town than before.

The speed of this wagon worried me a bit but I just attributed to how scummy Weapons was.

[charter]

If we're not lynching Weapons, it's going to be Xine. When did you pick up on this?

[Parama]

When I reread Weapons and then Bub in ISO.

[Nicodemus]

Vote Count 2.04

WeaponsofMassConstruction

(4): Socrates, charter, Slaxx, DemonHybrid

Slaxx

(3): Xine, Lowell, xvart

Xine

(1): WeaponsofMassConstruction

Not Voting:

boberz, Parama

WeaponsofMassConstruction is at L-2

6

to lynch.

Deadline for D2 can be found here

[Lowell]

When I reread Weapons and then Bub in ISO.

Parama earns Lowell's coveted "townpoints" for bothering to pay attention. I tend to agree with his read, and the weapons wagon had a lazy feel to it anyway.

[Parama]

xvart, what do you think of WOMC?
boberz, what do you think of Slaxx?
Lowell, what do you think of Xine?

[DemonHybrid]

You aren't going to get a bobz answer, he went V/LA for a while. Worthy to note.

[boberz]

where's boberz

Brighton, I moved house this weekend

Dont have internet at home, but do have some nice local pubs I can frequent with Wifi (catching up now)

[DemonHybrid]

Cool, then you can answer Parama's question.

I am on the edge of my seat.

[boberz]

Ok first a scattering of thoughts as I read throught he last fivve or so pages. Then I purchase another drink. Then I answer the question.

[boberz]

WOMC made a massive wall on Oso (409), am I correct in suggesting that in summation you think Oso lurked. In which case I am prepared to agree but think the case is a bit weak. The socrates case seems largely built upon the 'sheeping of parama', I saw it as a bit funny but null. Not something I would do but not something I think betrays a scum allignment.


Slaxx case seems to be that he softclaimed a PR along with a few other things, but that seems to be the thing that had people incensed.

Xine claims tracker. A fairly easy claim, that quite often keeps people alive. Lot of people accuse it of being quite weak (particularly slaxx). It was quite weak indeed howwever his answer about voting slaxx because he softclaimed actually makes real sense, I would question more whether it would come only from a tracker I think scum could have made the same logical jump if I am honest. However I get that people want to test the claim rather than just hope so I am happy to go along with that even though I from the charter school of lynching scummy people.

I had obvious connections with Bub apparently. If that means I correctly read Bub as scum despite lots of people being suspicious of me then I am guilty as charged (maybe I am slightly better than you are giving me credit for) but any scummy connections. I dont think so, care to elaborate Demon (maybe you do still rereading).

I dont fully get the weapons wagon either!

[boberz]

It seemed to lose momentum very quickly as well...

Makes him look more town imo.

[DemonHybrid]

I have a class soon. I will respond afterwards.

[boberz]

Slaxx.

I do not see his softclaiming, nor did I read anything as softclaiming (even now I have read it again). However now he has admitted it I am prepared to accept I was wrong on this. O do not think the idea that two players are alledgedly tunnelling on you is reason enough to softclaim, and I dont like how that went virtually unquestioned. He addmitted softclaiming.

It does also seem slightly scummy that he questioned why a tracker would pick him to invetigate. Of all the questions that could have been made about the claim he chose something that apparently he doesnt credit Xinescum as being able to do. It is a bit fishy.

Also Slaxx' most recent post is a bit waffly to me. Depending on how he spins it later it could mean he is naturally suspicious of Parama but he is also raising a question over the speed of the wagon meaning he can spin it in the complete opposite way.

One other thing that strikes me, upon a brief flick over his latest posts was his speculation over the targetting of the tracking:

I was also thinking about town governing the track, but then scum knows who to give their nightkill to right? I say leave it up to Xine.

The way slaxx talks here he seems to

know

exactly how it works and he seems to

know

that we were headed to a mislynch aswell.
I am by no means saying that these things werent the case. But some mafia groups have leaders who have to submit the NK, others have a group submission, (this wouldn't be the case if we have a tracker admittedly but this is far from confirmed). Slaxx seems to know that mafia choose who submits it. Furthermore he seems to know that weapons was goiong to be a mislynch and that there would still be mafia left to choose between (assuming three scum). It just seemed very strong assumptions he made without even pointing to the assumptions he was making.

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However whenever I am asked to do this sort of thing I feel that I am being asked to fabricate a bit of a case. I am not safe on Slaxx but reading this post I feel that I am giving the impression he is a major scum suspect for me. Tis Xine who I am still suspicious of most and before really elabortaing on others I do need a proper rereading.

[boberz]

Good to hear, I may make it tomorrow, if not it will be wednesday. Hopefully access at home soon. It will not be lurking I will try and post properly (as I think I did today) when I am in.

[Slaxx]

I like your use of the word fabricating boberz, it explains the overall post well.