Ladies Night -- Game Over

[Sotty7]

Also here waiting on Snow Bunny's result. I agree that massclaim is the next logical step here.

[Snow_Bunny]

WHO WAS THE DUMBASS WHO BLOCKED ME LAST NIGHT!?

[UncertainKitten]

I think you were jailkept then. Not necessarily dumbassery, but not the most intelligent use of role. At this point the jailkeep might as well claim.

[Snow_Bunny]

Why would she claim? To expose another PR?

Ah!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[UncertainKitten]

What do you have against massclaim at this point S_B? It might help us find scum, and with one mislynch to spare we won't have to deal with a wrenching 1 v. 1.

[Apokalyptika]

I agree with massclaim as well.

[Snow_Bunny]

I don't have a problem at all! Popcorn time!

UK, it's your time.

[UncertainKitten]

Sure. Vanilla townie.

Sotty can go next.

[Hoopla]

HEY EVERYONE. NOT MUCH TIME. ON BREAK AT WORK. IN FAVOUR OF MASSCLAIM. SEE YOU TONIGHT.

[Sotty7]

Townie.

Cepi next.

[cepi]

Vanilla.

Miyu next.

[Miyu]

The scum are among:
UK
Sotty
Hoopla
Cepi

[UncertainKitten]

What's hilarious is that post seems to be lacking in something. You know, like a claim.

Claim. Now. Miyu. I was pretty sure you were town, but...um...ignoring a call to claim during a massclaim is mildly scummy.

Especially to post an informationless pile like that. Yes, clearly the scum will be among the four people who are yourself, Apok, or S_B.

Now claim.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: AREN'T yourself, Apok, or S_B.

[Miyu]

I didn't ignore the claiming part. I simply chose not to include it in that post UK. Biiiiig difference.

How exactly is a massclaim at this point beneficial?

We already know the scum are among those four. So unless one of those four decides to claim JailKeeper or RoleBlocker; or a scum decides to claim their true alignment. Massclaiming solves nothing.

[UncertainKitten]

Then you clearly haven't been paying attention.

First of all, objectively, you're included in the scum list. My "list of four" replaces me with you. cepi's list of four replaces her with you. Hoopla's list of four replaces her with you.

So, don't even TRY to float past the "it's in those four" bullshit past me.

YOU, TOO, ARE A SUSPECT

That's not me

Secondly, the reason we massclaim NOW instead of tomorrow in likely lylo is because it discourages hard 1 v. 1s. Simply put, scum's going to counterclaim in lylo. It's their best move, since it prevents a confirmed while giving them a decent shot at victory.

So...how exactly is resisting massclaim at this point beneficial, Miyu? Are you afraid to be locked into a claim? Were you planning to wait until lylo to counterclaim a power role?

[Miyu]

I'm not resisting a massclaim. I simply don't see the benifit of it at this point.
Of course I was waiting to counterclaim- until lylo; nope. I was hoping that a scum would be dumb x2 and fake claim the wrong powerrole. But I suppose you already had DI do that yesterDay.

[RedCoyote]

Vote Count 4.1

• Not Voting

  (7) (UncertainKitten - Miyu - Sotty7 - Hoopla - cepi - Apokalyptika - Snow_Bunny)

With seven alive, it takes four to lynch.

Current Deadline: Oct. 18th, 2010 at 2:15 AM (CST)

[UncertainKitten]

Ah, sorry RC. I punctuate points with red and forgot it was your color. I'll avoid it in the future.

@Miyu: You do realize that the "right powerrole" has been named SEVERAL TIMES, right? DI was silly, yes, but I doubt they'd claim the wrong PR again.

I notice you haven't tried to counter my points. Claim. Now.

[Miyu]

You never know with silly scum. I already countered your comments.
Notice how no one else has bothered to post in the last 6+ hours?

Since you are hellbent on being

ridiculously

dense and ruining my momentary fun as well....

I am the JailKeeper

Now, can we get back to scumhunting.

The remaining two scum are among:
UK
Hoopla
Sotty
cepi

Like I said previously. This entire massclaim has been a total waste. Could've lynched a scum without revealing...

[UncertainKitten]

Which means the remaining 2 scum are among Hoopla Sotty and cepi for me.

Anyone wanna counterclaim ?

And do you REALLY think we'd lynch a scum with a 50% chance of failure? HA.

[Miyu]

Considering that it doesn't go purely off of numbers. Each would've been examined, 'like duh'. You are not cleared UK. You are either VT or Godfather (which I personally think.)

[cepi]

Ok. Even if Hoops counterclaims Id believe Miyu more (way of claiming, emotional outburst, etc).

That means that the remaining scum from my POV are UK, Hoops and Sotty. I have a town read on Hoopz, I have a mildly scummy read on UK and I have a neutral on Sotty (Ill need to recheck some things with a reread). UK has an investigation on her so she is either GF or town, that means she is not remotely lynchable today and will probably win a ticket to endgame depending on how things go today.

If we lynch scum today then we DEFINITELY win even if UK is GF(win the game as a logical puzzle). If we hit town today then its going to be a little harder and we'll probably have to win it the normal way.

So we have

3T, 1 T or GF, 3 U

with 2 S alive (where T:townie, GF:godfather, U: unconfirmed, S:scum).

So the play today is to lynch 1U. If we hit S, then we enter night with

3T, 1TorGF, 2U

with 1 S alive. Apoka vigs another U, Bunny investigates another U and Miyu jailkeeps the TorGF.

Next day, worse scenario, we have

2T, 1TorGF,1U

. Since there was a kill then the unconfirmed is scum. Lynch and GoodGame. If there wasnt a kill, then we are in

3T,1TorGF,1U

. Confirmed 3Ts outnumber 1S and 1U. With a combination of lynch on 1U and vig on 1TorGF, GoodGame.

If we lynch town today then things arent as easy and there is no logical puzzle to follow. I have a plan similar to the one above but gets us in trouble if UK is GF. We probably end in a 4player endgame with 1U and her. Let me recheck things if we can avoid this scenario.

But for now and for POE,

Vote: Sotty.

[UncertainKitten]

AMAZING, MIYU! You've somehow proven that you are ILLITERATE :O! Note that little "for me" at the end? Yeah. Dumbass.

Good thing I'm not a GF.

I'm fine with lynching Sotty.

Hell, if we lynch scum Apok can shoot me. I really dislike a lot of the stupidity in this game. Mine included.

[UncertainKitten]

Or we can do what Sotty suggested. It makes a lot of sense since if we lynch scum, jailkeeping me would block my hypothetical kill.

I'll note that a no kill doesn't IMPLICATE me, but a kill clears me.