Mini 245 - Stick Figures Mafia - Game Over!

[LyingBrian]

unvote

vote: Narninian

[LyingBrian]

is narninian dead yet....

almost, we need one more vote...anyone?

[Narninian]

so.... anything I can do to convince you otherwise?

[Changling bob]

FoS: everyone voting Narninian

[LyingBrian]

FOS: Changling bob

[BabyJesus]

FoS: everyone voting Narninian

interesting.....

are you claiming to know he is pro-town...

[Changling bob]

No, I'm claiming that we have

no evidence

that he is scum, and yet some people are perfectly willing to string him up. The game is lynch the scum, not lynch the townies.

[BabyJesus]

No, I'm claiming that we have

no evidence

that he is scum, and yet some people are perfectly willing to string him up. The game is lynch the scum, not lynch the townies.

Well, you're voting me, and you have no evidence I am scum, so that kind of makes you a bit of a hypocrite....

[Karo]

No, I'm claiming that we have

no evidence

that he is scum, and yet some people are perfectly willing to string him up. The game is lynch the scum, not lynch the townies.

I am with you on this. We have no evidence he is scum. Furthermore the bandwagon has archieved its goal - to cause some stir and ignite discussion. I am surprised people are holding so fast to their idea of lynching a random player. I am still not sure what they think is worthy of 'evidence' that earns its name.

That said I have to admit that there are some arguments in favour of continuing the 'wagon to its bitter end. Namely: risk of exposing a power role when going for another player, or just exposing another player's role at all. In retrospective it would have been better, if Narninian hadn't claimed in the first place. If I should get into a likewise situation (random bw on day 1) I'll refrain from claiming.

The whole situation put me into an exigency. I can't condemn the given strategy from the shoulder, as it admittedly has some merits.

You are making this really difficult for me. This is my second game, and I'm trying hard, but I can't read any of you. I have just reread the whole thread and understood that my previous accusations have very little ground.

My conclusion is the following: I will sleep over it and if nothing comes up, I shall put a vote on narninian and (possibly) end his misery.

[Karo]

Maybe there is another way out: When voting someone, the chance to hit a townie is bigger than hitting scum. Neither cop nor mafia had time to act, thus the lack of 'evidence'. Obviously people do not know to make better use of this day than to start a random bandwagon.
Why not let the day end peaceful?

Unvote, Vote: No Lynch.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Because letting the day end peacefully is statistically good for the scumbags.

FOS Karo

[Narninian]

hrmm.. I'm not usually a fan on no-lynch, except in special circumstances, (Everyone is claimed, we can force the hand torwards town, etc...)

Obviously I would rather it be no lynch, then lynch Narninian, but I dont think I'll vote that because its a bad day in general on day 1.

[Changling bob]

No, I'm claiming that we have

no evidence

that he is scum, and yet some people are perfectly willing to string him up. The game is lynch the scum, not lynch the townies.

Well, you're voting me, and you have no evidence I am scum, so that kind of makes you a bit of a hypocrite....

You pushing to lynch a claimed townie isn't scummy at all, especially when that's what I just said

I'm not sure about no lynch. Starting with day always gives us less information to go on, and although day one on start with night is very little better, there is always that little bit to work with. I don't think that it's the best move right now, I'd rather be looking at the players who are pushing to lynch Narninian with no real reason beyond "well it isn't me or a power role," which is what it boils down to.

[BabyJesus]

No, I'm claiming that we have

no evidence

that he is scum, and yet some people are perfectly willing to string him up. The game is lynch the scum, not lynch the townies.

Well, you're voting me, and you have no evidence I am scum, so that kind of makes you a bit of a hypocrite....

You pushing to lynch a claimed townie isn't scummy at all, especially when that's what I just said

OK, then, O Wise One, please elaborate me on which role claims ARE ok to vote to lynch day one....

[Changling bob]

The ones where we don't bandwagon until we get a claim, then lynch the claimee if they claim townie, and don't if they claim a power role as that's what scum would do as then they

don't get lynched

.

[Narninian]

We usually lynch based on stuff besides a forced role claim after a random bandwagon. The random bandwagon's purpose is to see how players 'react' to the bandwagon, and not to kill the first person that we come across.

[BabyJesus]

We usually lynch based on stuff besides a forced role claim after a random bandwagon. The random bandwagon's purpose is to see how players 'react' to the bandwagon, and not to kill the first person that we come across.

if your best guess based on this "random bandwagon" is a vote for me, then its clear you're unable to get much info out of it anyway, so we may as well finish you off....

[BabyJesus]

The ones where we don't bandwagon until we get a claim, then lynch the claimee if they claim townie, and don't if they claim a power role as that's what scum would do as then they

don't get lynched

.

so we don't bandwagon UNTIL we get a claim? So we're just hoping someone's gonna jump out with no pressure and say he's a townie, then you want us to lynch him......

[Changling bob]

The ones where we don't bandwagon until we get a claim, then lynch the claimee if they claim townie, and don't if they claim a power role as that's what scum would do as then they

don't get lynched

.

so we don't bandwagon UNTIL we get a claim? So we're just hoping someone's gonna jump out with no pressure and say he's a townie, then you want us to lynch him......

No, we look at voting patterns, like who's overeager to lynch someone.....

[LyingBrian]

is narninian dead yet....

bump

[BabyJesus]

The ones where we don't bandwagon until we get a claim, then lynch the claimee if they claim townie, and don't if they claim a power role as that's what scum would do as then they

don't get lynched

.

so we don't bandwagon UNTIL we get a claim? So we're just hoping someone's gonna jump out with no pressure and say he's a townie, then you want us to lynch him......

No, we look at voting patterns, like who's overeager to lynch someone.....

is that a scum tell....

[Changling bob]

No, its just retarded townie play.

[BabyJesus]

No, its just retarded townie play.

you're one to talk, mason-lyncher.

[LyingBrian]

is that a scum tell....

No, its just retarded townie play.

you're one to talk, mason-lyncher.

sorry, Changling bob, but you walked right into that trap...

[Narninian]

We usually lynch based on stuff besides a forced role claim after a random bandwagon. The random bandwagon's purpose is to see how players 'react' to the bandwagon, and not to kill the first person that we come across.

if your best guess based on this "random bandwagon" is a vote for me, then its clear you're unable to get much info out of it anyway, so we may as well finish you off....

Yes, I dont have much info -- people aren't looking beyond my bandwagon, and thats a BAD thing. We aren't going to make any progress in the game by lynching me right now --- as I was the *first* bandwagon, and you dont have a

good

reason to lynch me, other than that my forced claim was not that of a doc (which I wouldnt claim even if I was doc) or cop. [/i]