Mini 1038 - Inception (Day One Archive)

[Anon]

What he's saying is that his role name is the "Chemist" while his flavor name is "Yusef". You and I don't have a role name, just a flavor name.

This, but Fischer didnt have a profession as Yusuf, for example.... I think BC might be telling the truth, specially in the context of the subconscius training.

Seraphim, manho is town. This is one of the strong reads from my town meta. Please vote Chronopie.

[Anon]

Unvote:
Vote: manho

sigh.

NO.

[BloodCovenent]

Ghey.

Anon. How do you feel about Ooba?

Unvote:
Vote: ooba

[Anon]

OBV TOWN. Why do you guys think Chrono is town?

[Seraphim]

Goddammit, let's find a good place to wagon. I don't think ooba wagon is a good idea today. After doing a little research, I think Chrono wagon is a good bet.

Unvote
Vote: Chronopie

[Seraphim]

Here's what I figure: it looks like whatever we end up doing today is going to be a lynch based on relatively nothing due to the game moving so slowly and deadline coming so swiftly. A VI-type player like Chronopie is the best kind of lynch for this kind of day...getting a hard to read player and a player who acts anti-town as a meta is a much better lynch than someone like ooba has been participating to some degree.

[Seraphim]

I didn't think Chrono was town, I thought your case on him made you scum though cause it looked opportunistic rather than actual scumhunting.

[BloodCovenent]

Here's what I figure: it looks like whatever we end up doing today is going to be a lynch based on relatively nothing due to the game moving so slowly and deadline coming so swiftly. A VI-type player like Chronopie is the best kind of lynch for this kind of day...getting a hard to read player and a player who acts anti-town as a meta is a much better lynch than someone like ooba has been participating to some degree.

Or a lurker....

Meh.. fine.

Unvote:
Vote: Chronopie

[Seraphim]

Lurkers can be kicked into action later. With deadline impeding, Chrono is a much better lynch.

[Chronopie]

I'm going to believe anon's claim, as it parallels with my own.. And I see why he's so pissed about my setup spec, as he's on the list.

But the list pertains to my own role as well, though not directly.

Saito, Tourist.

If people really want, I'll reveal my ability, although it's not too useful.

[Chronopie]

Although I don't get why a chemist is a vig. Sounds more like an RB role.

[Anon]

Chrono, you should claim your abilities since you are the only viable wagon at this point.

[Anon]

This is what is bugging me, Saito is a tourist?

[bv310]

Unvote, Vote: Chrono

Consider this a Counter. I am Saito, Businessman/Watcher. Nice fakeclaim btw. Someone else here can confirm this as well.

[Chronopie]

Saito, tourist.

My ability is that I can throw money at a player each night, and if I hit the correct scum member, it modifies their role to make them an anti-GF Usurper. Thus my setup speculation that Eames may be a usurper, and why I wanted the mafia to see it, get paranoid, and kill themselves off. (Also, I did check that it was anti-GF, rather than absolute)

Unvote, Vote: BV

Why is a businessman a watcher? And who is willing to confirm this, and why do they know?

And if you're a watcher, who did you target N0?

[Chronopie]

This is what is bugging me, Saito is a tourist?

Have you seen the movie?!?

Saito insists on coming along for the dream, even though he has no special skills to lend to the mission, as he wants to make sure that his money is going in the right place.

[Iecerint]

Since there aren't very many characters in the movie, he's probably Fischer unless there are VT flight attendants or something similar.

I could see Fischer as scum or 3rd party in that his trained subconscious are the main antagonists in the show, albeit faceless ones. The only problem is that it's not obvious who he'd be paired with; I guess his family is a possibility, or the Goons could be subconsciousness members. (Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think that's plausible, since it gets around the problem of there being so few characters.) [/outguess]

I'd still rather lynch BP than Chrono at this point.

Edit: Well, that changes things. I guess that makes it less likely that flight attendants or something similar are in the game to make fakeclaims available. Is Chrono at L-1?

[bv310]

Saito, tourist.

My ability is that I can throw money at a player each night, and if I hit the correct scum member, it modifies their role to make them an anti-GF Usurper. Thus my setup speculation that Eames may be a usurper, and why I wanted the mafia to see it, get paranoid, and kill themselves off. (Also, I did check that it was anti-GF, rather than absolute)

Unvote, Vote: BV

Why is a businessman a watcher? And who is willing to confirm this, and why do they know?

And if you're a watcher, who did you target N0?

I was neighboured up with someone during N0. That person knows who I am (through my being a moron and posting under the wrong name in our QT)

As for why watcher, my role PM says that I can "send out my people to keep an eye on my target" (paraphrased) and it's a two-shot ability (clarified by Tony). I didn't target anybody N0, because I wanted to keep my abilities for as long as possible.

[Chronopie]

A role claim summary so far:

BC, Robert Fischer, BPT
Anon, Yusef, Chemist

Chrono, Saito, Tourist, able to turn a Mafioso into a usurper.
BV, cc'd Saito, Businessman, Watcher. Apparently confirmed by a neighbourised person? *Can this person confirm or deny? You don't need to claim your own role*

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@BC: Is there any reference to "The Mark" in your PM?

@BV: Is there any Flavour associated with the watching? (Like why you're a watcher)

[bv310]

It says that I can send my people out to keep an eye on my target to make sure they're still conforming to the audition. It also has some weird line about having to "make sure I know what's real"

[bv310]

Also, my neighbour and I were only given each other's roles, not names. No idea what that's about, but if the one responsible would like to say something, that'd be nice.

[Anon]

We actually shouldnt be speculating or discussin about anything else (roles, abilities, etc) We dont want to give scum more information than they have. Its pretty clear one of Chrono and bv is not Saito since there cant be two Saitos in the game. We should lynch one of them.

Im willing to believe more bv than Chrono because he counterclaimed and I dont see scum counterclaiming someone they know is town (why get in a 1 on 1?). But Chrono's role feels sincere. Arg, let me think about this.

[Anon]

Arggggg, unless we are in a dream and we have Saito from level 1 and Saito from level 2. Does any of you have any indication that you are in a dream or somethinjg?

[manho]

vote: chrono

, scum won't counterclaim someone who had said his role is pretty useless, and that chrono is always a good lynch.

[Chronopie]

We actually shouldnt be speculating or discussin about anything else (roles, abilities, etc) We dont want to give scum more information than they have. Its pretty clear one of Chrono and bv is not Saito since there cant be two Saitos in the game. We should lynch one of them.

I agree, This may be a bastard-y game, but two of a single character is excessively bastard.

I'm willing to believe more bv than Chrono because he counterclaimed and I dont see scum counterclaiming someone they know is town (why get in a 1 on 1?). But Chrono's role feels sincere. Arg, let me think about this.

Genuinely puzzled on my part too, why would a scum member cc a claim? Especially as it forces a 1:1, with the flip of one confirming the other. In this case confirming BV as scum / Myself as town.

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My crumbs:

Nash, The (first) Architect, may be a

traitor or

Usurper

Because If I'm right, one of those roles on the list is [redacted]

<Relevant to my own>

, people should have observed that I was prematurely setup speculating, and think, "He's Setup speculating on D1."

ofc I want Scum to see it and think "OSHI, he may be right on the Usurper" and kill themselves off.

As I can turn one of the mafioso's into a usurper, and Flavourwise Nash makes sense... (In the movie, early on, while Nash is architect, he sells out the team to Saito)

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-P.Edit: No indication that this may be a dream. Therefore I believe that, as per the OP, which indicates that

Some

already know that this is a dream (And that they're the ones we need to get rid of), that BV is lying scum, as he claims his role PM indicates that he should remember that This is a dream. More BV Votes.-

"It was all a dream"

You all realize you have no idea how you got to the hotel. Hell, you don't even know where the hotel is. The realization that you are all in a dream hits you like a shotgun to the face. Coincidentially, a shotgun to the face is the first solution many of you think of. But you can't be sure dying won't send you straight to limbo, so you figure it's best to stay "alive"

Of course, some of you already knew you were in a dream.

And you all agree that getting rid of those people must be your first priority.

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