Mini 1042 - Skillville - GAME OVER!

[Alduskkel]

Mod: Prod Scott Brosius

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@Espeonage: Last time I checked being mocking is a personality thing and isn't scummy.

[horrordude0215]

@Espeonage: Last time I checked being mocking is a personality thing and isn't scummy.

QFT. And for more proof, I have one word for you: Ythan

[Socrates]

Back from my V/LA. I don't feel like catching up right now.

(I wonder who noticed that I wasn't around for the last 6 or so pages.)

[DemonHybrid]

Back from my V/LA. I don't feel like catching up right now.

(I wonder who noticed that I wasn't around for the last 6 or so pages.)

Somewhat. I don't remember you saying you were going V/LA though.

[Skill006]

Back from my V/LA. I don't feel like catching up right now.

(I wonder who noticed that I wasn't around for the last 6 or so pages.)

Somewhat. I don't remember you saying you were going V/LA though.

It was in his sig.

Now prodding Untrod Tripod, Scott Brosius, and Zachrulez.

[DemonHybrid]

Oh, I know.

I was responding to him wondering if anyone caught it. I saw his sig, but not until he posted saying he was back. Just thought I'd mention it.

Carry on =P

[Skill006]

Oh, I know.

I was responding to him wondering if anyone caught it. I saw his sig, but not until he posted saying he was back. Just thought I'd mention it.

Carry on =P

Ah. Sorry for ruining it.

[DemonHybrid]

Oh, I know.

I was responding to him wondering if anyone caught it. I saw his sig, but not until he posted saying he was back. Just thought I'd mention it.

Carry on =P

Ah. Sorry for ruining it.

No no:

He wondered if anyone caught his V/LA

I said I didn't, but I didn't remember knowing whether or not he had posted a V/LA post. <----I posted this knowing that he had V/LA in his sig.

That's basically it. Doesn't affect the game or anything.

[Zachrulez]

Back from my V/LA. I don't feel like catching up right now.

(I wonder who noticed that I wasn't around for the last 6 or so pages.)

Somewhat. I don't remember you saying you were going V/LA though.

It was in his sig.

Now prodding Untrod Tripod, Scott Brosius, and Zachrulez.

I made it pretty clear that I wasn't going to be around much over the labor day weekend. 48 hours is a pretty strict activity requirement as it is... but not taking account for weekends and holidays...

I'll get to this tomorrow.

[Reckamonic]

I'm sure that because I'm not Reck or dramonic, if I did the same thing they did, I would be lynched in a heartbeat. That also has something to do with it.

AtE
had to say it.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm sure that because I'm not Reck or dramonic, if I did the same thing they did, I would be lynched in a heartbeat. That also has something to do with it.

AtE
had to say it.

So, a point made on meta of you two with reasoning to back it up is AtE? Where in that statement did I invoke peoples' emotions in order to persuade them to do something?

Would you not say that if I attacked you with baseless accusations, I'd be lynched by now? Because you guys have been on the site longer, it has a lot to do with it. I mean look at yourself, you're still alive. Perhaps it's due to the fact that I'm new or not as known as you guys, but I'm very sure that if I was in your position, I'd be dead by now. That's not really tugging on emotions OR giving an opinion; it's me stating probabilities.

[Reckamonic]

Quite frankly, your probabilities are bullshit

[Untrod Tripod]

ahem

5. No personal attacks please. Anyone violating this rule will be modkilled.

chill out, guys

So going through the game I noticed something:
with the exception of Yoshi, this game actually has pretty decent participation in terms of post numbers. I want to hear more from Esp. His contributions up to now haven't really been all that useful. Also I detest metagaming.

204 total posts
Alduskkel - 20 posts
DemonHybrid - 65 posts
Espeonage - 19 posts
horrordude - 9 posts
q21 - 14 posts
Reckamonic - 17 posts
ScottBrosius - 7 posts
Skill006 - 7 posts
Socrates - 13 posts
Untrod Tripod - 6 posts
volkan - 10 posts
Yoshi - 1 post
Zachrulez - 19 posts

You may notice that DH posts a lot. I don't know if it means anything, but goddamn.

I find too much confidence in early reads to ring ingenuwine, which is scummy. (This also comes down to gut feel.) Too confident is basically when you talk to someone as if they're confirmed scum. (The behavior's certainly anti-town as it doesn't take all possible motives for actions into account.)

QFT

Him talking has comprised almost all of pages 4 and 5, and you don't have any info on him? So, you completely tunneled me without reading the whole thread, is what you're saying.

I really don't appreciate this comment. You're half of the argument, and as you said, it provided info. Even if the amount of the game you're it "comprimised" was correct (it's not), I would still wonder what you meant by "comprimised". To my mind, comprimising the game is when you pull it to a halt by
a. make people wait around for you to post
b. yelling angrily/semicoherently at other players
bb. RESPONDING to angry/semicoherent yelling instead of just ignoring it
c. post boatloads of irrelevant questions
etc.

To my mind, Esp did this a little bit and reckamonic is doing this a lot. DH, I'd say you're helping reck drag the game down by letting him get to you. Seriously, don't feed the trolls. Also, posts 155-159 weren't really necessary information, for example. Nor was the recent talking about Socrates' V/LA. I guess what I'm saying is that I didn't "comprimise" the game.

again, you're bullshitting bout UT. He posted 1 time on page 4 and 3 on page 5. Hardly a meaningful contribution. Also, 60% of his contribution are quote war with you. I usually skip those, they are tedious. As an add-on to that, if you can't make a concise post I WILL skip your next retort ( or dump it in my hydra's lap)

I'm not really interested in the trolling, but I just want to say that I agree with DH that our back-and-forth wasn't useless to the game (and I find it curious that DH said that after saying

I feel like I've posted little enough that I should post my reads, because you can kind of get a sense of how everyone feels about the other players from their posts but I haven't said:
Alduskkel - null
DemonHybrid - slight lean town
Espeonage - slight leanin scum
horrordude - null
q21 - null
Reckamonic - null (only because I feel like he's trolling for reads)
ScottBrosius - slight lean scum
Skill006 - slight lean mod
Socrates - null
volkan - slight lean town
Yoshi - where the hell is Yoshi?
Zachrulez - null

so basically I don't really have any strong reads. I'd like to hear some actual content from Esp.

I have to stop making the post now (have to go work), but I have more to say later tonight

[DemonHybrid]

I would still wonder what you meant by "comprimised".

Him talking has comp

ris

ed almost all of pages 4 and 5, and you don't have any info on him? So, you completely tunneled me without reading the whole thread, is what you're saying.

Misunderstanding alert!

So, all I got from your post is that you agree that early game confident reads is scummy, which is pretty much pure opinion (you really don't know what anyone's up to during RVS) and that Reckamonic just be trollin' me.

See my reply to Espy. Some people can make others believe the -worst- cases due to a lack of reply.

[Alduskkel]

I am pretty sure it was a misspelling of comprise, not compromise.

Also, is it more or are the number of VIs in games increasing lately (we've got Espeonage and Reckamonic in this one).

Although maybe I'll have a better opinion of those VIs if they would actually back up their reads *hint hint*.

Preview Edit: Called it on the misspelling thing.

[Alduskkel]

Also Reckamonic's recent "AtE" post reminds me of this.

[Untrod Tripod]

I would still wonder what you meant by "comprimised".

Him talking has comp

ris

ed almost all of pages 4 and 5, and you don't have any info on him? So, you completely tunneled me without reading the whole thread, is what you're saying.

Misunderstanding alert!

oh dear god! sorry about that! the stuff I said still applies though to Esp and reck being jerks.

[DemonHybrid]

Also, yes. I do post a lot. From my wiki:

"My playstyle: It's the same whether I'm town, scum or third party: I ask a lot of questions, I answer everything asked of me, and I lightly suspect a lot of things."

[DemonHybrid]

Also Reckamonic's recent "AtE" post reminds me of this.

I do agree that it's a nulltell. I'm still having trouble trying to figure out if Reckamonic is a VT or is really REALLY terrible scum.

[Alduskkel]

Did you mean to say VT?

[DemonHybrid]

Did you mean to say VT?

Yeah.

[Alduskkel]

So, Reckamonic is a vanilla townie or scum? Why can't he be a power role?

[DemonHybrid]

So, Reckamonic is a vanilla townie or scum? Why can't he be a power role?

I have a VERY VERY VERY long history of really really arrogant people being Vanilla Townies. It's been the case in -every game- that I've been in.

View my wiki again. Soraville, it was Jack. Scorehero Mafia 3, Raikiri. Scorehero On Tour, Fugitive. Vanillaside: a LOT of townies.

I think it has either to do with how "boring" VT can be to a lot of people or that the only weapon they feel they have is pressure. Sometimes they take it to heights unimaginable.

It's more of a hunch than anything else, but it seems to follow such a strict pattern that I feel like I can't ignore it again.

[DemonHybrid]

I guess to follow up, those that have power roles try their hardest to stay out of the firefight. They don't want to risk looking TOO scummy or TOO town. Therefore, those that engage themselves in antagonistic conversation are either scum trying to fit in, people with nothing to hide, or REALLY ballsy PRs (a lower chance of this).

I even called it in Soraville. Look at my last post before my lynch.

[Alduskkel]

First of all, your sample size sucks. Second of all, probability says that most of the time VIs will be scum or vanilla townies. BUT you can't discount something just because it is unlikely.

Unless you're a Day Role Cop or something, you're making an assumption with little base to it.

And anyway, true VIs are the ones who are always like that, even if they're PRs are scum are what have you.

Seriously, just don't make assumptions.