Mini 1041: Wheel of Fortune Mafia (Game over!)

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

brianj (3): Charlie, PieMan, Oman
curiouskarmadog (1): Xite91
PieMan (4): Prof. Guppy, Reckamonic, Tasky, curiouskarmadog
Reckamonic (1): yabbaguy
Not voting (3): brianj, FakeGod, jmj3000

With

12

players alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.

[Xite91]

lol, why am I getting a vote?

Er, close enough, Xite91. I must say your actions are really unhelpful to town i.e. anti-town BUT If and when you flip town I nominate you as VI.

but Pie wants to say he is saying this.

If you are killed, and when you flip town

.

I am calling him out on this with

lol, why is not WHEN you are killed, IF you flip scum....

funny how you flip the words in order as you need.

bullshit.

why is that scummy?

It's scummy because "if and when" makes it sound like charlie thinks I'm town, but he just said I was anti-town (which pieman probably took as scum, but with charlie I know better )
That in conjunction with the fact that you did something similar very recently where you went all over the place with something small (your little question you kept asking and asking) it looks like you're trying hard to push a case that is not there and derail the town from scumhunting, therefore you seem like you are scum IMO.

[curiouskarmadog]

your statement makes no since....

pie was the one you was attacking charlie for the "if and when"..I am attacking pie for his scummy manuver of the words.

and was that anywhere close to what I was asking fakegod and charlie?...what case did I push against them?

[Xite91]

your statement makes no since....

pie was the one you was attacking charlie for the "if and when"..I am attacking pie for his scummy manuver of the words.

and was that anywhere close to what I was asking fakegod and charlie?...what case did I push against them?

sorry I'm half asleep and sick, let me see if I can make sense of what I'm trying to say for you;
here, I'll just do an ISO case on you, k?

1) What did you think he was saying? Or is this just a way to look town?
4) 1 and 2 are the same question worded 2 different ways
6) starting a count of how many times you ask, so this is for all intents and purposes the 2nd time
7) 3
9) 4
10) 5
11) 6 - and you're encouraging tunneling
13) 7
14) guess what? I voted you. And I'm prolly gonna get you lynched. Can I bully you now?
15) not exactly 8, but still not dropping it
16) I'll consider this and 15 = to one, so 8
17) 9
18) actually, it was 9
19) So what were those reasons? You never told me what they were
20) 10
21) Then you just dropped it??? What the hell?
23) Wow, so you had to ask the question 10 times??
24) correctly?
25) In a way, he did show that he thought I was town, but he did give some uncertainty, this did not warrant more than this one post against it
26) There is not wagon, and I could say you're doing the same thing.
27) This whole post is scummy, for what should be those weird reasons that you can see scum writing it but don't know exactly where the scummy is.
28) Because you are twisting what he's saying quite a bit. Also, you're attacking the popular wagon for shit reasons. Therefore, you are scum, or at least very scummy.
29) Is that better for ya?

[curiouskarmadog]

hey xite, quit role fishing...I have my reasons for asking what I asked.

once he(they) answered my question, I dropped it....I never once pushed a case against them (though I was about ready to I think, I felt they were dodging me)

also, Please please please, provide to me the quote where I twisted ANYTHING?!?! What I find really "funny" is you are voting me for twisting words (when i did the exact opposite) and avoiding the Pie wagon (when he ACTUALLY DID TWIST WORDS).

I say if Pie flips scum, his buddy is Xite.

....

actually the more I think (and reread this is preview)...you are probably scum either way....you are going out of your way to avoid (and make sure everyone knows you are avoiding) the pie wagon. You are voting for reasoning that does not make sense. You are actually down right misrepresenting me or just simply lying. You attack me while I was trying to scum hunting (when I was questioning charilie and fakegod)....AND you are role fishing.

unvote, vote Xite

I will still vote Pie if needed...but I think pressure should be applied here.

[Xite91]

1) hey xite, quit role fishing...I have my reasons for asking what I asked.

2) once he(they) answered my question, I dropped it....I never once pushed a case against them (though I was about ready to I think, I felt they were dodging me)

3) also, Please please please, provide to me the quote where I twisted ANYTHING?!?! What I find really "funny" is you are voting me for twisting words (when i did the exact opposite) and avoiding the Pie wagon (when he ACTUALLY DID TWIST WORDS).

4) I say if Pie flips scum, his buddy is Xite.

....

5) actually the more I think (and reread this is preview)...you are probably scum either way....

you are going out of your way to avoid (and make sure everyone knows you are avoiding) the pie wagon.

You are voting for reasoning that does not make sense.

You are actually down right misrepresenting me or just simply lying

.

You attack me while I was trying to scum hunting (when I was questioning charilie and fakegod)

....

AND you are role fishing.

unvote, vote Xite

6) I will still vote Pie if needed...but I think pressure should be applied here.

1) You said you had reasons, never said it was role-based, therefore it was not role-fishing. Nice misrep.
2) Yeah, you said you had reasons, but never acted upon them, even though you thought they were lying (though you never said why). Also, you said they answered "correctly" which just doesn't seem like a good sentence. So unless your role is that you get to read a pm of anyone else whenever you want or something like that, I would like these reasons, regardless if it's role-based or not, because you calling it role-fishing is just a way to put the attention on me, when I can almost guarantee that there's not a hint of role-based information in it.
Oh yeah, and I saw your "breadcrumb" so, if that's what you're going to claim, then there's STILL no reason for you to have asked that many times.
3) You were twisting pieman's words, I gave you the ISO number didn't I? Read it and you'll see.
4) Setting up lynches already?
5) bolded. I started the piewagon IIRC. And when I made my vote, it was to see who jumped on. And guess what? You took the bait.
Underlined. How does it not make sense?
@Everyone else - Does the case make sense to you?
Italicized. Am I? Where and how?
bolded2. How was that scumhunting? You didn't give us any information on why you did it or anything like that, and then you dropped it. You were posting to dilute the thread and that was all.
underlined2. Still lol'ing at this one. So hard. Can't be role-fishing if I don't know that your "reasoning" (if you actually have any) is role-based.
6) Ahhh, the classic fence-sitting trick. Please, please everyone see the scum in this guy? It's so disturbingly obvious I want to shield my eyes

[Charlie]

Xite, do you think meta is a good way of finding mafia?

[Xite91]

Xite, do you think meta is a good way of finding mafia?

It depends greatly on the person.
With you, it very well could be (considering I've seen two completely different styles from you), but with others that play pretty much the same either way, it really isn't.

[Tasky]

It's scummy because "if and when" makes it sound like charlie thinks I'm town, but he just said I was anti-town (which pieman probably took as scum, but with charlie I know better )
That in conjunction with the fact that you did something similar very recently where you went all over the place with something small (your little question you kept asking and asking) it looks like you're trying hard to push a case that is not there and derail the town from scumhunting, therefore you seem like you are scum IMO.

now it's my turn to call you out on bullshit!
I saw CKD's point as completely legitimate.
where exactly do you see the connection between the questioning of FG/Charlie and the attack on PieMan?

@tacsky Im not doing your work for you, either cite your reason, or I find your actions very scummy and vote worthy.

my name is Tasky! not to difficult to spell, spell it right.
wow... you seem confident. well, I'll keep my vote on you then. your post confirmed to me that you are indeed scum! thank you

[Oman]

my name is Tasky! not to difficult to spell, spell it right.

Jerk

[StrangerCoug]

jmj3000 has requested replacement.

[StrangerCoug]

Tazaro replaces jmj3000.

[Tazaro]

Indulge me, I need to read for a while. But from this page, I may already get some suspicion that either Xite or curiouskarmadog could be mafia.

[FakeGod]

Taz, try not to multi-post tooo much plz?

[Tazaro]

@xite, charlie, says when and if you flip town, ie it reads as if he knows you are town.

vote Pieman

pushing a bad wagon, the dude says "IF"...meaning uncertianity in the alignment....you are not scum hunting but pushing crap to see who will buy it....

Let's look at the Pieman bandwagon. Well, there's two good customers on it: Curiouskarmadog reads as town. Reckamonic reads as town. The guy called Pieman is being defended too much by Xite in post 172 (you're next on the lynch list as far as I'm concerned, Xite), and Pieman was weaksauce attacking Charlie for the when and if thing.

Vote: Pieman

[PieMan]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Tasky

Wont even state why hes voting.

[Tazaro]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Tasky

Wont even state why hes voting.

Wut?

[Tazaro]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Tasky

Wont even state why hes voting.

Wut?

Oh, TASKY won't even state why he's voting. Use nouns when you use verbs, please, Pieman.

[Reckamonic]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Tasky

Wont even state why hes voting.

GAAAAAH
FFS, SOMEONE LYNCH THIS SCUM!

you are right Reck, it does feel good to post in caps!

[PieMan]

@Reckamonic, why is it scummy to vote for someone who is not saying why he is voting for that person?

[Xite91]

It's scummy because "if and when" makes it sound like charlie thinks I'm town, but he just said I was anti-town (which pieman probably took as scum, but with charlie I know better )
That in conjunction with the fact that you did something similar very recently where you went all over the place with something small (your little question you kept asking and asking) it looks like you're trying hard to push a case that is not there and derail the town from scumhunting, therefore you seem like you are scum IMO.

now it's my turn to call you out on bullshit!
I saw CKD's point as completely legitimate.
where exactly do you see the connection between the questioning of FG/Charlie and the attack on PieMan?

I didn't see them as legit because it looked like nitpicking (as did pieman's) but CKD seems to be trying REAL hard to derail the scumhunting process based on his ISO

Indulge me, I need to read for a while. But from this page, I may already get some suspicion that either Xite or curiouskarmadog could be mafia.

Taz, I love you, I really do. But I hate when people fence-sit like this. Oh, by the way, nice to be in another game with you

Taz, try not to multi-post tooo much plz?

QFT

@xite, charlie, says when and if you flip town, ie it reads as if he knows you are town.

vote Pieman

pushing a bad wagon, the dude says "IF"...meaning uncertianity in the alignment....you are not scum hunting but pushing crap to see who will buy it....

Let's look at the Pieman bandwagon. Well, there's two good customers on it: Curiouskarmadog reads as town. Reckamonic reads as town. The guy called Pieman is being defended too much by Xite in post 172 (you're next on the lynch list as far as I'm concerned, Xite), and Pieman was weaksauce attacking Charlie for the when and if thing.

Vote: Pieman

Taz honey, I don't like this post one bit. Looks like you're setting up lynches.

And how come no one commented on my case on CKD? It was small and had some good info in it. Least I could get is why people think it's ignorable.

@Reckamonic, why is it scummy to vote for someone who is not saying why he is voting for that person?

It's not, but they probably see it as OMGUS, and probably think you're flailing, but I honestly think you're just newbtown. (no offence)

[Tazaro]

Xite's a girl? This question is based on "honey."
It's kind of hard not to set up lynches when part of one's case involves one player being a defender of someone else whom you placed a vote on. i really think someone who played in the way that Pieman has should be left to fend for themselves, and it's on my watch list when players like Pieman are assisted by someone. Pieman needs no defense from death; we need to get information from his death. I want a post-mortem analysis from a cadaver.

[Tazaro]

At best, I hope the info we get from the Pieman lynch is You've lynched Scum.
@Xite: I also noticed karmadog's post that you called fencesitting. Hmm, I won't triple post. Good for me.

[Xite91]

Xite's a girl? This question is based on "honey."
It's kind of hard not to set up lynches when part of one's case involves one player being a defender of someone else whom you placed a vote on. i really think someone who played in the way that Pieman has should be left to fend for themselves, and it's on my watch list when players like Pieman are assisted by someone. Pieman needs no defense from death; we need to get information from his death. I want a post-mortem analysis from a cadaver.

Haha, I could just be gay
I'm not so much defending pieman is the thing. I'm attacking what I think is obvscum. If you didn't notice, I was the one that started the piemanwagon in the first place. Thing is he got decreasingly scummy and increasingly newbtownie as CKD got ridiculously scummy as the game went on. I want a CKD lynch because CKD is scum. I can decide whether or not pieman is or is not scum afterwards.

At best, I hope the info we get from the Pieman lynch is You've lynched Scum.
@Xite: I also noticed karmadog's post that you called fencesitting. Hmm, I won't triple post. Good for me.

Are you going to actually say anything about this? As to whether it's a good point or if it's scummy, or anything of the sort? Or just say hmm?

[Xite91]

EBWOP
BTW Karmadog, I've made a case about you and asked some questions... how about a response?