Mini 1041: Wheel of Fortune Mafia (Game over!)

[curiouskarmadog]

when i say above I mean, post 147

[Charlie]

You're strange, curiouskarmadog. Look at my #104, directly below the scond quote to find this:

Nothing of that sort.

Cross-reference with FakeGod's #138.

Ninja Edit: Yay, you've understood! (finally!)

[curiouskarmadog]

I misunderstood it...given that one of the options in the "nothing of that sort" was "something else"....I needed to be very sure and I didnt want to assume you said anything you didnt..that sort of shit bites you n the ass later.

[FakeGod]

ckd you could've just said, "so SOMETHING ELSE?"

We could've been over like couple pages ago.

[curiouskarmadog]

(shrug)...what are you going to do...I did say it...said it several times...I actually kept copying and pasting the original question over and over again..

at any rate, I felt like you guys were dodging me, because i had caught you in a possible fake claim...wasnt the case, but thought I was barking up the wrong tree...I still dont 100% believe the claim, but you answered the question correctly, so I am fine for now.

[PieMan]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p2490919
p113 He expresses the knowledge that Xite is town.

That is what, im referring to.

[curiouskarmadog]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p2490919
p113 He expresses the knowledge that Xite is town.

That is what, im referring to.

no he doesnt...he says "when and IF"...what part of that is knowledge?

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

brianj (2): Charlie, PieMan
PieMan (3): Xite91, Prof. Guppy, Reckamonic
Reckamonic (2): yabbaguy, Tasky
Tasky (1): curiouskarmadog
Not voting (4): brianj, FakeGod, jmj3000, Oman

With

12

players alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.

[Charlie]

@PieMan: Whoops, please don't overthink about my posts. It's unhealthy. That post had no hidden/breacrumbed meaning. It was just a thought of the moment (now retracted).

@curiouskarmadog:

You're strange, curiouskarmadog.

[brianj]

All right, the problem CKD had with the claim seem to be resolved for moment, so it's time to give a general overlook:

yabbaguy

He was the one who picked up on the mystery wedge softclaim and made scum/town partner suggestion, which I am going to lay off for now since most of his focus was questioning whether Charlie's partner was likely town or not- I think scum would try to focus more on the specific role details. Only iffy part I have about him now is this post about SC mod meta which is kind of strange followup to Charlie's post that there are unknown aspects about their role that makes his theory likely false.

Null read, reading about his opinions on other players would definitely help.

Prof. Guppy

One of those unremarkable players whose major focus was on Charlie/FakeGod claim debacle, but answer this -_-

@ yabbaguy, I choose not to random vote, because I know it goes against the mafiascum grain. People usually jump on me about that. They think this minor bucking of tradition is a scumtell.

These people are either inexperienced, or scum themselves.

If your tendency not to RVS is to, as you put it, draw out scum attacks, why tell us about it immediately? Yabbaguy did ask but there was absolutely no need for you to add that last sentence in my opinion.

Don't know what to think of Charlie's post at the moment.

PieMan

Current impression is scum trying hard to look like VI, mostly due to the fact that too many of his posts are blatantly terrible. I'll probably meta him later to see if this behaviour is normal though.

curiouskarmadog

His insistence on the PM wording was kind of sudden, but I don't really see it being scum-motivated unlike some people pointed out. His posts did prolong the debate about Charlie's claim, but most of the discussion would have been avoided so long time ago if Charlie/FakeGod replied to it. I don't see what scum would gain by learning what CKD asked anyway.

[Oman]

I'm not sure where this Pieman wagon is coming from, but I haven't had a chance to go back and review him or the cases on him.

VOTE: brianj Nothing you have done is interesting me to the point that it takes away that early suspicion. I took the vote off due to the focus being elsewhere, but your analysis is poor, and undisciplined. It feels like you're trying to throw smoke out to cover something.

[Xite91]

Hhey, ckd?
Quit repeating the same thing over and over again?
It's getting annoying and clogging the thread. I'm to the point where I just want to lynch you so you'll shut up. The answer should be obvious by now.
I feel like you're trying to keep us on this topic to keep us from scumhunting.

noted, then do it, or back off, you cant bully me.

AtE noted. I don't usually go for policy lynches unless it's the day before LyLo.

LOL, if it is so little, then why not answer the question?

I think you are fake claiming, i have STRONG reason to believe you are lying...sooo...

Where'd this go?

hi everybody... I replace Me=Weird.
Charlie and FakeGods actions look genuine. I think we should trust them for now.
I am still curious what CKD is up to... we'll see. I do not understand FG's problem with answering his questions though.

for now I am just going to do this:
VOTE: PieMan

I want you (PieMan) to tell me why you think I am voting you. let's see if you can guess.

Sup tasky? Let's try not to replace outta this one, k?
Also, I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on this post. Blatant wagoning much?

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p2490919
p113 He expresses the knowledge that Xite is town.

That is what, im referring to.

Wha??

[PieMan]

@brianj what do you mean by terrible? If its that I write terrible, I have been slowly trying to make more sense to the community, though im not so sure I have done a great job at it.

[PieMan]

@xite, charlie, says when and if you flip town, ie it reads as if he knows you are town.

[Tasky]

for now I am just going to do this:
VOTE: PieMan

Not until you unvote Reckamonic, you're not.

right.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: PieMan

Im going to assume, your voting me for my last post, which no one realized was in reference to a statement by Charlie, that was worded very strangely, and suggests that Charlie may know more than he has said, about the alignment of players, beyond FG and Himself.

nope. try again. (but now that you say so, that post is indeed a little scummy. not the original reason for my vote though)

Sup tasky? Let's try not to replace outta this one, k?

Hi. nice to meet again. I shouldn't be replacing out soon, no long V/LAs in sight.

Also, I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on this post. Blatant wagoning much?

wait. what exactly are you labeling as bullshit? and why aren't you voting me for it?
yeah, I am wagoning. problem with it? I like the PieMan-wagon.

[brianj]

I'm not sure where this Pieman wagon is coming from, but I haven't had a chance to go back and review him or the cases on him.

VOTE: brianj Nothing you have done is interesting me to the point that it takes away that early suspicion. I took the vote off due to the focus being elsewhere, but your analysis is poor, and undisciplined. It feels like you're trying to throw smoke out to cover something.

It's better than nothing, though I would appreciate it if you specifically explained to me which part of my analysis is particularly lacking.

@brianj what do you mean by terrible? If its that I write terrible, I have been slowly trying to make more sense to the community, though im not so sure I have done a great job at it.

Just particular group of posts that I found strange. There's here where you tries to ask motivation behind Charlie/FakeGod softclaim, which is normal reaction I'd expect from some people, but you immediately backs off when FakeGod says "trust me, I had my reasons" which is essentially the same thing FakeGod was saying before.

Lot of people pointed out #64 due to it's ambiguity, "they could either both be scum, both be town, or scum/town", which isn't really saying much.

The reasoning you have for voting me is missing two things, that my change of attitude was due to FakeGod mod-confirmed town partner claim which I had lot of trouble believing, and I think I focused solely on trying to understand their behaviour rather than prodding the specific details of their role themselves.

I thought #136 was unconvincing and came out of nowhere, but now I think about it since you don't seem to be good at english perhaps it has more to do with reading comprehension so withdrawing this point.

[Prof. Guppy]

Prof. Guppy

One of those unremarkable players whose major focus was on Charlie/FakeGod claim debacle, but answer this -_-

@ yabbaguy, I choose not to random vote, because I know it goes against the mafiascum grain. People usually jump on me about that. They think this minor bucking of tradition is a scumtell.

These people are either inexperienced, or scum themselves.

If your tendency not to RVS is to, as you put it, draw out scum attacks, why tell us about it immediately? Yabbaguy did ask but there was absolutely no need for you to add that last sentence in my opinion.

Don't know what to think of Charlie's post at the moment.

Honest mistake on my part. You're absolutely right, I should have kept that detail to myself. But what's done is done.

[curiouskarmadog]

@xite, charlie, says when and if you flip town, ie it reads as if he knows you are town.

vote Pieman

pushing a bad wagon, the dude says "IF"...meaning uncertianity in the alignment....you are not scum hunting but pushing crap to see who will buy it....

[StrangerCoug]

Prod check when I'm done testing whether Blu-rays work on my computer now.

[StrangerCoug]

The good news is that Blu-rays work on my computer now; the bad news is that jmj3000 has a prod out.

[PieMan]

Ok First thing, the post reads to me,
BUT If and when you flip town I nominate you as VI.

If you are killed, and when you flip town

@tacsky Im not doing your work for you, either cite your reason, or I find your actions very scummy and vote worthy.

p64 Youll notice I tend to do that when arguments come up that have multiple ways of looking at it and there breaks out some sort of fight. Youll also note I stated, that I believed a maf/town pair was unlikely from my view, unlike how you wrote it out.

p136 I wouldnt say im bad at english, just that people suck at understanding the way I type, but either way I broke down what charlie said above.

p58 I realised there was no way they could satisfy my questions without giving me information, that could hurt us.

@Brain You did state that you were looking for a full role claim in post 3 of yours.

[curiouskarmadog]

lol, why is not WHEN you are killed, IF you flip scum....

funny how you flip the words in order as you need.

bullshit.

[Xite91]

Also, I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on this post. Blatant wagoning much?

wait. what exactly are you labeling as bullshit? and why aren't you voting me for it?
yeah, I am wagoning. problem with it? I like the PieMan-wagon.

Not voting because I've seen it before, but still not sure whether you were town or scum
(As far as we will go with this one )

Also, I wish you would make some sort of case on someone, I love reading your cases

lol, why is not WHEN you are killed, IF you flip scum....

funny how you flip the words in order as you need.

bullshit.

read the post again
...

Unvote, Vote CKD

suddenly I'm less inclined to want pieman lynched
next I'm going to see who was on it, but that will probably be later (i has do laundry)

[curiouskarmadog]

lol, why am I getting a vote?

Er, close enough, Xite91. I must say your actions are really unhelpful to town i.e. anti-town BUT If and when you flip town I nominate you as VI.

but Pie wants to say he is saying this.

If you are killed, and when you flip town

.

I am calling him out on this with

lol, why is not WHEN you are killed, IF you flip scum....

funny how you flip the words in order as you need.

bullshit.

why is that scummy?

[Oman]

I really don't get this CKD vote. Will answer brianj today.