This is an obvious trap. Here's how the scum does it: You vote for someone and don't give a reason, opting instead to come up with it later if pressured. Then, if the townie you're voting for doesn't ask for those reasons, you go gung-ho saying "HAHA YOU MUST BE SCUM BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ASK WHY I WAS VOTING YOU." Nice try bro.I'm saying you should have asked for my reasons. Asking a question is the opposite of explaining something. How exactly did you mix the two? Again with the "no reason"? Really?
Because mykonian didn't decide to base a vote on me by calling my vote OMGUS.Why aren't you voting for mykonian for "lying" about the same thing?
Lynch all liars is a great policy. I use it all the time.Also, decide, it's either a policy lynch vote or you voting for me being scummy. Good job at failing.
It's a debate as to whether self-voting is a good strategy? Yeah, I don't buy that.Jack wrote:Then don't ask--it's an MD debate as to whether it's a good strategy or not. Did you read the article I posted?Then freaking unvote and vote one of them! I'm tired of asking.
I feel like I have a good grip on this game, but things are still developing. I'm very content to watch them develop.
My vote was never on you because you didn't ask why I was voting for you. How would that ever be a reason for voting for someone? I voted for you for keeping your vote on me after RVS for not giving any reasons while not even caring what those reasons were. There was nothing scummy about you ignoring my vote on you. There is something scummy on you basically voting me back for me voting for you and not asking anything.XScorpion wrote: This is an obvious trap. Here's how the scum does it: You vote for someone and don't give a reason, opting instead to come up with it later if pressured. Then, if the townie you're voting for doesn't ask for those reasons, you go gung-ho saying "HAHA YOU MUST BE SCUM BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ASK WHY I WAS VOTING YOU." Nice try bro.
Your vote was not OMGUS when it was cast. It became OMGUS when you left it on me for OMGUS reasons.Because mykonian didn't decide to base a vote on me by calling my vote OMGUS.
You didn't answer my question. Policy lynching =/= lynching scummy players.Lynch all liars is a great policy. I use it all the time.
Then why was it on me?My vote was never on you because you didn't ask why I was voting for you.
Is not acceptable because it is a lie. I want a better answer.@The Scorp Fos/Vote: I've seen him react to pressure and I thought it would be a good place to put some to get reactions. Once I voted he voted right back instead of asking for reasons
Because myko didn't think that situation scummy, if it had occurred.Stef wrote:That was an actual misunderstanding I apparently shared with mykonian. We were both under the impression you voted for me after I voted for you. I didn't say you should explain what I'm thinking. I'm saying you should have asked for my reasons. Asking a question is the opposite of explaining something. How exactly did you mix the two? Again with the "no reason"? Really?
Why aren't you voting for mykonian for "lying" about the same thing?
it was never OMGUS.Stef wrote:Your vote was not OMGUS when it was cast. It became OMGUS when you left it on me for OMGUS reasons.Because mykonian didn't decide to base a vote on me by calling my vote OMGUS.
You didn't answer my question. Policy lynching =/= lynching scummy players.[/quote]I policy lynch scummy players.Lynch all liars is a great policy. I use it all the time.
Stef wrote:@Antihero: It is scummy because of the OMGUS. Him invoking another game for not asking me why I voted for him is just fluff. Not defending yourself whatsoever is anti-town.I would never let an unexplained vote on me without even trying to find out what's behind it. My vote was not crap vote, fine, not a great one but still not crap and how could have scorp know if it's crap or not without asking?Where do you get this? I disagree.Also, my vote on mykonian was not OMGUS. Voting for the person voting for you =/= OMGUS.Again, why does the burden of proof fall onto scorpion? If you want to be taken seriously, you need to explain why you think something is indicative of alignment (as we've seen with DavidParker). Not doing so, and then retroactively blaming the person you accuse is just stretching to me.Of course you're not going to say that you're voting mykonian because he's voting you. I just think that from the stupid reason you gave with your vote. mykonian isn't "lying," which is an inappropriate word to use here. Voting with an illogical reason is equivalent to not having a reason.
My responses in blue, I just thought this would be easier on the eyes than a quote wall.Stef wrote:@Antihero: I asked you something here. Would you mind elaborating?Or is it just easy to jump on the biggest wagon while bringing no contribution?After thinking about it, jelly is right in that the actual rolefisher here would be Jack. I'll concede that point to you.That wasn't the reason for my vote. Also, no contribution?
Jack, I'm not. Playing the mafiaSSK way (strategic lurking as town) is mostly a selfprotecting way of play, rather then townie. If you want a theory debate, you can get it.Jack wrote:Then don't ask--it's an MD debate as to whether it's a good strategy or not. Did you read the article I posted?Then freaking unvote and vote one of them! I'm tired of asking.
I feel like I have a good grip on this game, but things are still developing. I'm very content to watch them develop.
The Stef vs. mykonian post you linked me to.Haschel Cedricson wrote:Wait, which post are you referring to?danakillsu wrote:@ HC
I would say about that post "goodposting".
What was it supposed to mean, then?About that "discrepancy" I would just say ignore the "at this point". It wasn't supposed to mean "right now", so I guess it was a poor choice of words.
are we seriously going to play the "how can I get Jack to say more and more" game?Jack wrote:There is obvious other, but saying the name wouldn't fit with my intensely aggravating play style.
wait, are you mentioning the article from which you posted the abstract here?Jack wrote:Then don't ask--it's an MD debate as to whether it's a good strategy or not. Did you read the article I posted?Then freaking unvote and vote one of them! I'm tired of asking.
I feel like I have a good grip on this game, but things are still developing. I'm very content to watch them develop.