Mini 1041: Wheel of Fortune Mafia (Game over!)

[Reckamonic]

accounted for!

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Vote: FakeGod

Who the hell is Me=Weird?

[Reckamonic]

Charlie is town for post 26.
CKD is slightly scummy.
Our RVS vote on FakeGod stays.
yabba, stop rolefishing.

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we totally tore down your strategy.
wait, how?

Either way, it's not efficient. So we know that one of Charlie and FG is scum.
We also know the odds of there being a strong PR between those two is huge. If the scum has any form or redirection or blocking, you've FUCKED OVER a town PR.

on that lovely note,

Unvote

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brianj's #27 doesn't sit well with me, specifically because he just shows up seemingly to say that he doesn't know what to think of Charlie's post.

brian, what do you think of Charlie's post now?

CKD is scummy for the same reasons as brianj, only in post 31.

yabba's post makes a lot of sense regarding the mystery wedges, but Charlie refutes them, and Charlie is obvtown, so...

FakeGod buddying up to Charlie seems a bit too obvious to be a scum maneuver, so we'll just label him VI for now and ignore it.

yabba's vote on us is stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid. we... tore down his strategy... baselessly? wut. But I can't help and agree that this mystery wedge thing holds a lot of weight...so unless Charlie is bankruptcy.

jmj3000 shows up just to openly sheep Charlie (which is understandable after L4D) but seriously man, show us some content if you're gonna bother to post, there are only two pages thus far.

[Reckamonic]

You might have a buddy, but I have something better, and he's playing the same role as me =D

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Heres my biggest problem with thinking only one of them is mafia.

Im willing to say neither of them could be,

but im also willing to say they both are mafia

it just doesnt seem necessary for one to be maf and the other to not be, for some weird strat or power or w/e

This post is ten kinds of awful.

It's mod-confirmed that Charlie and I are both town.

May I leave it that?

No. Why should we believe you? I have trouble believing that you guys are more useless than a weak doctor, yet you guys have

mod-confirmed alignments

to each other. Seriously, WTF!?

[Reckamonic]

Not really, Charlie, because I still don't understand how knowing 100% another player is conf-town makes you a useless role. The dissonance there is just plain dumb.

But I could agree to look elsewhere for today.

[Reckamonic]

=3

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Regarding Reckamonic, at first I thought he was contradicting his posts until I realize that they are 2 people. Because of this I upgrade my previous scum-read on them to a neutral... but reading a hydra... is difficult.

Well, for your convenience, we usually don't post until we've both had a chance to discuss the game's events on Skype and come to a mutual agreement on something.

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I'm sorry other half of me, but I can'T just let Piescum go free when he's that scummy...

Unvote
Vote: Pieman

We can vote anti-town thing some other time, right Recky?

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I'm sorry other half of me, but I can'T just let Piescum go free when he's that scummy...

Unvote
Vote: Pieman

We can vote anti-town thing some other time, right Recky?

We're supposed to talk about these things first,

darling

.
Actually, I'm fairly okay with this vote.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Tasky

Wont even state why hes voting.

GAAAAAH
FFS, SOMEONE LYNCH THIS SCUM!

you are right Reck, it does feel good to post in caps!

[Reckamonic]

Checking in really quick:

@yabba: I was insinuating he was lying about his masonry.

[Reckamonic]

Hey guys!

Drammie & I are gonna catch up and post thoughts on this game tonight. We'll both be rather V/LA from Friday through Sunday or Monday, so plan on a catchup post tonight after we have time to discuss the game with each other.

[Reckamonic]

and are most likely getting one-shot mafia killed tonight <_<
mason might as well claim

[Reckamonic]

Vote: Pieman

He still IS scum =_=

[Reckamonic]

Urgh. We got our prod. Will get a good post in today at some point.

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Update... couldn't actually get around to catching up in our games tonight. Fairly busy day today/Tuesday with exams and whatnot, but should be able to get up to snuff Tuesday evening.

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TOWN:

brianj - This is just really fucking obvious. He's an un-CC'd mason.
FakeGod - His claim and Charlie's flip saved him. Not to mention, his posts 347 & 348 hit the nail on the head.
Reckamonic - durrrrrrrp.

@yabbaguy:

In regards to your question in 331, we went after the "mason" pair because their opening statements of being useless town roles directly contradicted them soft-claiming some kind of alignment confirmed masons, which

are absolutely 100% not useless

.

Professor Guppy

's 324 is completely useless. It'd be different if it was just a post stating he was behind and was gonna catch up, but he comes in right after our vote on Pieman and insinuates that his (Guppy's) stance on Pieman is wishy-washy and thus will reread to "reevaluate". His eventual vote on Pieman in 334 is a hearty dose of irony: "After reviewing the thread, I realized he's making posts without information." Not to mention, his response to Tasky's vote on him in 345 kind of reeks of useless IIoA.

Tazaro

sheeps our vote on Pieman in 326 with... literally nothing else except an expression of possible validity to our vote: "He

could

be". For someone who's playing a vote with no explanation, he seems rather unsure about it. He has a weak FOS out on Oman as of 370, and that just screaaaams non-committal. He's unwilling to lay a vote down on Oman, but is willing to call him out on the contingency that Pieman is town? The contradictions don't add up. By the way, his vote in 377 is wayyyy too bombastic. It's like he's

daring

us to vote for him or is trying to play the "I'm too stupid to be scum" card.

Oman

is a really tough read for us. I don't like how he attempts to dismiss Xite's former suspicions in post 350. Also, call it gut, but 359 just seems like he's trying way too hard to look town, especially when in 360 he reverts to saying that he has reservations about the wagon. In 371, he sees to devalue both leading wagons, yet earlier suggested the possibility that it could be lylo. Why is he okay with being on one of those wagons if

he thinks it could be lylo

!?

Tasky

was really idiotic and scummy until 361. And now, we'll respond to those questions:

1. do you still think Charlie is "plain dumb"? (*)
2. do you think FakeGod is going to be today's mafia-kill? (*)
3. if I were a doc, who should I protect?
4. if we lynch Pieman today and he flips town, would you be willing to take a lynch tomorrow?

1. We think he sincerely underestimated the power of his role.
2. It's possible, but then again, this is total pre-kill WIFOM.
3. brianj, stupid question.
4. Never in hell. We're town. Also, after proper re-read, we changed our status on the Pieman thing.

[Reckamonic]

I really don't think Tazaro would bus.

May I inquire as to why?

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PieMan is almost certainly town now. On a re-read, Tazaro looks particularly scummy in connection with Guppy. See our last post for our case on Tazaro, then compare it with Guppy. Both seemed to want to drive the PieMan wagon to a lynch. Also, anyone care to show us where Tazaro or Guppy

ever

mention each other?

Hint: they don't. The way Guppy hammered himself to kill discussion almost seemed like one of his scumbuddies was off the wagon and he didn't want them to get singled out for not being on his wagon (and yes, we realize this incriminates us as well)... but look who else wasn't on the wagon?

FoS: Tazaro

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Yep, I don't bus.

Meta. Now plz.

I wasn't being emotional, and how can you know whether it's a bus without knowing whether I am scum?

Do you understand how to play this game?

FakeGod is quite clearly town. The push for a Pieman lynch makes him a bad lynch candidate. We have a gut town read on Tasky. We are town. brianj is a mason, so he's town. This leaves Oman, Tazaro, and yabbaguy. Let's lynch them 1, 2, 3 and be done with it!

Vote: Oman

[Reckamonic]

^
what he said <<

[Reckamonic]

I see...
We're still voting Oman though

[Reckamonic]

It's really over that quickly?
2 scum?

Seriously?

[Reckamonic]

whee!

2 scum vs 10 town with PRs, woah =D

[Reckamonic]

brianj is still confirmed town.
PieMan is pretty fuckin' town because both scum tried to push a lynch on him.
We're town.
And we have a ridiculously strong gut read on Tasky/CSL.


We should lynch Tazaro. His post-fake-endgame stuff is bad. We should ignore Oman's stuff and assume there's still a third scum. We're missing a night kill each night for there to be a Serial Killer. If it's not Tazaro, it's yabbaguy. We lynch Taz today and possibly end the game, and if Taz is somehow town, then we no lynch tomorrow (4p).

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OOPS! Forgot the vote.

Vote: Tazaro

[Reckamonic]

Vote: No Lynch

Just NL. Don't give scum any additional information.

[Reckamonic]

We are

the contestant backdrop

, vanilla townie.

We win when all threats to Stage 11 are GONE!

Anyways, if we can postpone this lylo stuff until Monday, it'd be great, because half of the hydra is currently away on holiday.

[Reckamonic]

You're missing the point.
This is a HYDRA account. We don't make decisions ALONE, we make them TOGETHER. If we wanted to be schizophrenic and make decisions the other might disagree with, then why the hell would we be playing as a hydra?

Not to mention...we both had a more town read on Tasky, which would make yabbaguy the last scum, but given the fact that it's LYLO, we're both going to need to re-read for other clues and information.

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Also, please explain what is scummy about politely asking to postpone any serious lylo discussion/voting for 48 hours due to a player being V/LA? Please. It'd be fascinating to hear.

[Reckamonic]

Cleared.
Now, yabba, crossvote and wait until Monday (though I'm 80% sure my other half is gonna wanna lynch yabba).

[Reckamonic]

Uh. The other 20%.
Now be a nice boy and go make a case on yabba.
Yabba, do the same on CSL.
Kthxbai.

[Reckamonic]

If it were Tasky, we'd hammer yabba.
But CSL has managed to shake up our town read on Tasky.
Give us a moment.

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yabba's 501 is scummy.

Vote: yabbaguy

So, who won?

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Well you did the better choice Yabba.
Frankly, we had to take a moment to wonder, because while a Tasky vs Yabba was an easy choice, CSL's play today was... odd, let's just say. Still, if we don't clear a scummy person because they're replaced, we decided not to incriminate a townie person for the same reason.

Happy twas the good choice =D

What are you really, btw?

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The other of the hydra is here to say...

HOORAY! WE WON OUR FIRST HYDRA'D GAME!
=D

[Reckamonic]

<3 this game
A lot of fun, actually. Short, not long-winded, good playerlist.

Thanks for the great game, players...and SC.
And thanks for being obvscum for us, Oman