Newbie 989 - Dead Serious Game Over!

[Haylen]

Vote Count

Mallowgeno: Trendall, Boberz, Funky, Rioku
Funkyzafara: Scrambles
Espeonage: Mallowgeno

Not Voting: Espeonage

Mallowgeno - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day Two.

It is now Night Two. Any and all actions should be sent in by Sunday 29th August, 9pm GMT + 1

[Haylen]

Scramblesthedeathdealer - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night Two

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. Deadline is Sunday 19th September 9pm GMT+1

[ScramblesTheDeathDealer]

BAAAWWWWW.
Well, good luck Town.


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@Mod - I don't remember you saying we couldn't have a baww post

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It's in my rules. It's always in my rules -_- ~ Hayl.

[Espeonage]

Reread commencing when I am caught up with all my games. Sorry for being absent. I just simply forgot. I am here now though.

[Espeonage]

@ Bob yes this is my first game as IC. I was actually very nervous about it. That hasn't helped. I think i might stick to SEing. Much more fun and i am better at it. Anyway back to the game.

Last scum is Rikou but also may be funky. Boberz is town. He is being objective which is a very towny quality. Trendall feels town but may just be a good scum player.

I have seriously fudged this game up so far.

VOTE: Rikou To start us off today.

[Espeonage]

ebwop VOTE: Rioku

[boberz]

Esp, you gotta start explaining yourself you are not ABR

[Espeonage]

ok fine. By process of elimination as stated in my last post I am voting Rioku.

[boberz]

So I am town
Trendall feels town but might be scum
Funky might be scum
So by elimination vote rioku.

Not washing with me, the only person you ruled out was me. Who coincidentally is the one who is about to vote for you.

vote: Esp

Any IC alive in day 3 is scum. This is put more at doubt because Esp has played poorly but he has lurked, refuses to give his explanation and is deserving of outside scrutiny.

[Espeonage]

I do take issue with your reasoning earlier yesterday as well. Just because town appeared to not be doing well and I was playing doesn't mean I am scum. I have a total of two or three wins on here.

I would say that an IC alive on day 2 that played well would be scum, so I'm not going to hold that point against you. That is fair reasoning.

I basically was saying that I think Trendall is town but unlike with you I have some reservations. So that leaves Rioku and Funky. If Rioku is the scum then he is alot more dangerous to keep alive in lylo tomorrow and so would be the better of the two to lynch today.

[boberz]

In fairness I caught scum in my first post Esp. (granted it was not the hardest catch in the world), but it shouldnt have taken me, who was not even here, to lead that wagon.

I am not saying you are a bad player Esp, I know that you can be a good player, certainly better than me in the last game we had together. However I was dissapointed with your lack of content, dissapointed you hid behind being an IC and dissapointed you were not forcefull enough about not lynching on page 7.

Wagon analysis probs gives rioku and funky something to answer to. It took them a long time to be convinced, but seemed fairly comfortable with their respective votes. But it is you Esp who I worry about, I just dont know why you have played like you have.

[Espeonage]

mallow was wifom in my eyes. It was too scummy to be scum. I was wrong in that but it was the reason behind my reservations on going hard on mallow day 2. My day 1 play was marred by the fact that I was getting to caught up with teaching that I forgot the game. Anyways that isn't an excuse. I've answered your points. I think we should wait for some others to get here to see if anyone else wants to question me or make a new case. Also. Do a day 2 iso of STDD. That was what else puts rioku ahead of funky in my eyes.

[boberz]

No such thing as too scummy to be scum in my eyes, especially not in a newbie.

Ok will do the iso on STDD, always worth a glance. Not a fan of NK analysis though (that stuff is WIFOM).

[Espeonage]

Nah not NK analysis. What he said. Don't connect it back to NK.

[Rioku243]

First off Esp, Why exactly would I be more dangerous than funky in lylo? I really haven't played a better game than him, especially with my quick hammer yesterday, even if it caught scum. I'm also failing to see much of an argument in Scrambles ISO. 3 posts had me in it and the worst I got was an FoS. If there's anything specifically you'd like me to answer out of his posts then please quote it because I'm curious as to what exactly would make you think "Scrambles NK= Riokuscum" And why wouldn't we link it to the NK? You probably wouldn't have even looked at Scrambles if he wasn't NK'd last night.

That process of elimination seems like BS too. It's just filler to try and make your vote on me look better especially since you haven't given reasons for your town/scum reads.

Although I don't agree with bobs "IC living to day 3" is scum theory. It seems like WIFOM that scum would use to get an easy mislynch day 3.

Oh and I'd also like to congratulate Esp for his second real vote in this game! Really though, afraid to commit to anything?

[boberz]

Show me a newb scum who has ever used that theory rioku. I give you 1000 newbie games to choose from.

Although I am not sure how much it applies with respect esp being a quick game and he being a lurky suspicious character.

[Espeonage]

STDD =/= Rioku scum.

[Rioku243]

Bob, I can't. But it still seems like a WIFOM case...

Esp- Then I'm very confused as to your voting me. You said Scrambles being killed pushed me in front of funky. Then you said not to take the NK into account. Now you're completely retracting the statement.

You have no case on me besides your process of elimination? Is that what I'm getting here?

And I'd still like to know why I'm more dangerous in LYLO than funky. Care to explain?

[Espeonage]

No I said StDDs iso puts you ahead. I never said ti had anything to do with the nk.

[Espeonage]

You are more dangerous as scum in lylo as you would have a better chance of confising the town than Funky. Consider it a compliment.

[boberz]

Bob, I can't. But it still seems like a WIFOM case...

We never know anyone 100%, this tell is much more solid than even others. I am not suggesting the logic should hold up, but in practice this works.

[funkyzafara]

Alright then, have been looking through the thread now and am fairly certain who I think is scum:

Espeonage - Has generally been very evasive throughout the entire game, while putting fairly "random" votes, and generally hasn't been very helpful to the game. Currently the person I see the most scummy.

Trendall - Has been very pro-town in all his comments, and despite his recent absence, I see him as town.

Rioku - Seems very fair in all his comments, and has generally had a lot of good content. But again I must agree with bob and say that this COULD just be a good scum player. Very split about him.

Bob - Has been 100% pro-town right from the start. This results in me trusting him a lot, and I am sure that was why he did it. As he entered the game late, we had nothing to base our assumptions about him on. Mallow was already looking very scummy, a bandwagon on him was imminent to happen, so scum-Bob could've sacrificed Mallow in order to look very town. This is just a theory I have, but I still see him mostly as town.

Currently mostly seeing scum from Esp, but not gonna vote when I am uncertain.

[boberz]

If a bandwagon was so inevitable why did it take me to come in and make it happen?

Also I do not like you calling me as town, but then throwing a little bit of mud funky. If you think I bussed him tell everyone and we will discuss how likely it is for a replacement to drive home a lynch on his partner in the first ten pages. But meh.

However you are right that we need Trendall's input.

May I ask why your top suspect did not get a vote?

[funkyzafara]

Because I didn't want to seem like I had a lot of different opinions, while still only voting for one person. That was what I saw Espeonage do, and that only made him look even scummier.

[boberz]

Mm I am not too happy about that. Having different opinions does not mean you cannot vote.