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[yabbaguy]

The worst part about Instant Night is that you can't make decisions

based on the flip

. That's really important at times.

[zoraster]

The worst part about Instant Night is that you can't make decisions

based on the flip

. That's really important at times.

This is certainly the major disadvantage to instant night in most games (but not this one). I actually considered going back to a normal lynch thing for this game (as I've used instant night the past two or three games), but decided this was actually an ideal game for it because it's mountainous -- in other words, it really didn't matter whether people had information on the flip.

I've considered using a hybrid instant/normal night where people can submit actions beforehand as in instant night, but there is a night that lasts 24 hours in which actions can be changed.

I just think night tends to kill the momentum of games. In some cases, maybe that's a good thing Still, i find nights to be overall pretty negative to the flow of a game, especially when they drag on and on.

[Friend]

I've considered using a hybrid instant/normal night where people can submit actions beforehand as in instant night, but there is a night that lasts 24 hours in which actions can be changed.

This sounds great -- I'd love to play in a game like this.

[yabbaguy]

Or just have a buffer time. If a lynch comes within an X-day window, a classic Night phase begins.

[Robbnva]

I don't see why 24 hour deadline isn't used in general
48 if it falls on a weekend

[yabbaguy]

Too quick by MS standards.

[Robbnva]

Too quick by MS standards.

Yeah I know, ms is a snail compared to what I'm used to

[Robbnva]

Although this is the fastest game I have ever played

if only I read my role pm closely, I would not have confirmed in the thread and would have been off jack's radar

[yabbaguy]

But that's 'cause we all have a life.

Has anyone squawked "get an avatar" at you yet?

[Robbnva]

Nope Not yet

Mafia > real life

[Wisteria]

Get an avatar.

Out of curiosity, Robbnva, did you ever check the QuickTopic again after you posted your question in there? One reason I bussed you was I became a little worried that you forgot.

yabbaguy, I saw your blurb in the yGDB. Harsh words.

I've considered using a hybrid instant/normal night where people can submit actions beforehand as in instant night, but there is a night that lasts 24 hours in which actions can be changed.

+1

[Haschel Cedricson]

Wait, there was a Dead Lounge? Where?

[Robbnva]

Get an avatar.

Out of curiosity, Robbnva, did you ever check the QuickTopic again after you posted your question in there? One reason I bussed you was I became a little worried that you forgot.

yabbaguy, I saw your blurb in the yGDB. Harsh words.

I've considered using a hybrid instant/normal night where people can submit actions beforehand as in instant night, but there is a night that lasts 24 hours in which actions can be changed.

+1

I checked it but don't even remember what you had said

I had submitted my actions when it was clear I was the only one active

I don't mind being bussed, Im fine taking one for the team

[Jack]

Although this is the fastest game I have ever played

if only I read my role pm closely, I would not have confirmed in the thread and would have been off jack's radar

I made up all the stuff about zoraster's scum pm's, as haschel and red spotted.

You dropped some big scum tells that page though.




Personally I absolutely love instantaneous night.

[yabbaguy]

Data claims he had to out his main in the Dead Lounge. Lemme see if I can change that by posting the Printer Friendly version with his main's name removed.

I mean, yeah, it's a loss I certainly don't deserve IMO. I was one of the people who participated in the MD thread designing this, like I mentioned, so I knew the correct tactics were to watch the reactions once scum were in sudden death. Quicklynching, on the other hand, does the polar opposite of that. I think it's a fair judgment. Don't take the term "lurkerscum" personally, for one, lurking wasn't so much that as much as it was "not being around", and secondly, it's brilliant for you, so it's hardly a rap on you, Wisteria.

Minor edit made: while Jack was easily the biggest proponent of quicklynching IMO, I made it "Jack and the Town...".

[zoraster]

Yeah. I think blaming it all on Jack is sort of absurd because he only has one vote. Anyone who went along with it is culpable as well. In fact, anyone who saw what was going on and didn't speak up was culpable.

Anyway, I don't mind the experiment. I just think it was a poorly chosen setup to do it.

[Jack]

The goal was not quicklynch per se..except on the last day where I was horribly impatient due to (I'm guessing) having had to wait around for two hours in another game to quickhammer for a scum win.

The goal was "live lynches" so that scum absolutely can't buss--it very much as to do with the mechanic of the game.

I forgot about the dead town players who would be watching though, it must have been aggravating, I apologize for that.

[zoraster]

The goal was not quicklynch per se..except on the last day where I was horribly impatient due to (I'm guessing) having had to wait around for two hours in another game to quickhammer for a scum win.

The goal was "live lynches" so that scum absolutely can't buss--it very much as to do with the mechanic of the game.

I forgot about the dead town players who would be watching though, it must have been aggravating, I apologize for that.

Why would this setup be more prone to bussing? It seems to me that you'd like to force scum to bus in this setup. The first one hurts scum a ton, and the second will have to seem really artificial and thus detectable.

[Jack]

Ideally on the day red was lynched, I would have voted, and haschel, and it would have looked like a full speed ahead quicklynch. Then if cloud or scott had willingly hopped on it would have been pretty revealing. cloud did end up revealing himself as scum that day anyway, unfortunately with it was with his awkward hammer vote. Really should have gone with him the last day.

[zoraster]

Ideally on the day red was lynched, I would have voted, and haschel, and it would have looked like a full speed ahead quicklynch. Then if cloud or scott had willingly hopped on it would have been pretty revealing. cloud did end up revealing himself as scum that day anyway, unfortunately with it was with his awkward hammer vote. Really should have gone with him the last day.

I'm still not sure I see it. If scott had voted for Red, what would that have shown?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Ideally on the day red was lynched, I would have voted, and haschel, and it would have looked like a full speed ahead quicklynch. Then if cloud or scott had willingly hopped on it would have been pretty revealing. cloud did end up revealing himself as scum that day anyway, unfortunately with it was with his awkward hammer vote. Really should have gone with him the last day.

I'm still not sure I see it. If scott had voted for Red, what would that have shown?

Well, it might have convinced me to take my vote off of Red, since Scott was the most logical partner for Red.

It might not have, though; I forget what conclusion I came to at the end of that day.

[Jack]

Ideally on the day red was lynched, I would have voted, and haschel, and it would have looked like a full speed ahead quicklynch. Then if cloud or scott had willingly hopped on it would have been pretty revealing. cloud did end up revealing himself as scum that day anyway, unfortunately with it was with his awkward hammer vote. Really should have gone with him the last day.

I'm still not sure I see it. If scott had voted for Red, what would that have shown?

Why would scum put his buddy 1 vote from losing the game?

[zoraster]

Ideally on the day red was lynched, I would have voted, and haschel, and it would have looked like a full speed ahead quicklynch. Then if cloud or scott had willingly hopped on it would have been pretty revealing. cloud did end up revealing himself as scum that day anyway, unfortunately with it was with his awkward hammer vote. Really should have gone with him the last day.

I'm still not sure I see it. If scott had voted for Red, what would that have shown?

Why would scum put his buddy 1 vote from losing the game?

Well, it would have shown that Red and Scott were unlikely partners at least.

[Data]

I got it already, yabba.

Spoiler: dead QT images

If you can't read it (it came out tinier than I wanted it to here), quote the post and go to the links. <_<

This game was fun, but next time I'd actually like to experience the special mechanic (and/or be scum).

[MeMe]

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