Mini 1033 - Paradise Mafia: Over

[Fate]

I just wanna be, I just wanna be sucessfullll~

Vote Count:

cloudocean (1): Dekes
Dekes (0):
drmyshottyizsik (0):
Ellibereth (1): pacman
Friend (0):
LynchMePls (0):
Midnight Sorrow (1): TheButtonMen
Nexus (0):
Pacman281292 (0):

Redtail896 (6): SpyreX, cloudocean, LynchMePls, Elliebereth, drmyshotty, Friend

SpyreX (0):
TheButtonMen (1): Midnight's Sorrow

Not Voting: Nexus, redtail

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline: September 5th.

[pacman281292]

Whoa, redtail is L-1...
I've just ISO'd redtail, in order to see how did this f***ing wagon make any sense.
The answer is: IT DOESN'T MAKE THE SLIGHTIEST SPECK OF SENSE.
Indeed, he i being accused of not contributing. You can ISO check anyone else, and find out that noone has even made anything.
For instance, Elli's 5 posts have been total BS, without the slightiest wish to contribute.
Friend voted him because he hadn't scumhunted at 2 pages of the game, in middle of RVS. I find that hard to do, if you ask me. Also he's being an hypocrite there.
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Just showing why does this wagon make absolutely nil sense. My random vote is happy where it is; elli hasn't contributed anything more than shouting, and even Friend has contributed at least a little.
Gonna make a more dedicated reread later (gotta check other games).

[LimMePls]

Whoa, redtail is L-1...
I've just ISO'd redtail, in order to see how did this f***ing wagon make any sense.
The answer is: IT DOESN'T MAKE THE SLIGHTIEST SPECK OF SENSE.

Indeed, he i being accused of not contributing.

You can ISO check anyone else, and find out that noone has even made anything.
For instance, Elli's 5 posts have been total BS, without the slightiest wish to contribute.
Friend voted him because he hadn't scumhunted at 2 pages of the game, in middle of RVS. I find that hard to do, if you ask me. Also he's being an hypocrite there.
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Just showing why does this wagon make absolutely nil sense. My random vote is happy where it is; elli hasn't contributed anything more than shouting, and even Friend has contributed at least a little.
Gonna make a more dedicated reread later (gotta check other games).

OMFG. Please read the thread. I dunno if anyone else is accusing him of "not contributing", but that isn't the case on him at all. Let me try to explain.

1) I made a vote that looked like a policy lynch.
2) Redtail says "is that a policy lynch?"
3) Others find the question odd and pressure him.
4) Redtail flails about saying scummy things and trying vainly to deflect attention to others for "not contributing".

FoS: Pacman

[Midnight's Sorrow]

OMFG. Please read the thread. I dunno if anyone else is accusing him of "not contributing", but that isn't the case on him at all. Let me try to explain.

1) I made a vote that looked like a policy lynch.

Well if it looks like one, maybe it is amybe it isn't? That's why yuou ask questions. Duh!

2) Redtail says "is that a policy lynch?"

First off this was me, not Red. Get your facts straight sir.

3) Others find the question odd and pressure him.

If you think two reasonless votes are pressure, then hunker me down and call me death blind and stupid

4) Redtail flails about saying scummy things and trying vainly to deflect attention to others for "not contributing".

Why don't we a-lie guilt on all that it applies to? Instead of a single case? Would make more sense, otherwise your just being a hypocrite

[LimMePls]

OMFG. Please read the thread. I dunno if anyone else is accusing him of "not contributing", but that isn't the case on him at all. Let me try to explain.

1) I made a vote that looked like a policy lynch.

Well if it looks like one, maybe it is amybe it isn't? That's why yuou ask questions. Duh!

2) Redtail says "is that a policy lynch?"

First off this was me, not Red. Get your facts straight sir.

3) Others find the question odd and pressure him.

If you think two reasonless votes are pressure, then hunker me down and call me death blind and stupid

4) Redtail flails about saying scummy things and trying vainly to deflect attention to others for "not contributing".

Why don't we a-lie guilt on all that it applies to? Instead of a single case? Would make more sense, otherwise your just being a hypocrite

Ok, what I meant was "Redtail asked why people were voting you for asking about the policy lynch". The point is, Redtail got pressured by SpyreX and he squirmed like caught scum. You imply here that the two votes on Redtail weren't pressure. If thats the case, then his reaction is even MORE absurd. Look at his response to SpyreX's vote of him, plus his sudden twisting of the whole thing to "content" when content had nothing to do with why people found him suspicious. Add on top that he used the "not producing content" argument to try and smear other players in an attempt to push attention away from himself. You could literally feel the squirming coming right off the screen. All of that in response to what you imply wasn't even pressure ("two reasonless votes").

[SpyreX]

Ohh Friend I may be in love.

OHH YE CHUCKLEHEADS OF DEFENSE;

Less omg wagon and more "X is scum because of Y"

Because you want to know the BEST BESTEST BESSSTEST part of all this back and forth?

The number of votes on Friend.

If you're gonna be all gung ho and call this out as the worst thing ever it must be scum driven right?

Hmmm, a mystery.

[pacman281292]

Whoa, redtail is L-1...
I've just ISO'd redtail, in order to see how did this f***ing wagon make any sense.
The answer is: IT DOESN'T MAKE THE SLIGHTIEST SPECK OF SENSE.

Indeed, he i being accused of not contributing.

You can ISO check anyone else, and find out that noone has even made anything.
For instance, Elli's 5 posts have been total BS, without the slightiest wish to contribute.
Friend voted him because he hadn't scumhunted at 2 pages of the game, in middle of RVS. I find that hard to do, if you ask me. Also he's being an hypocrite there.
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Just showing why does this wagon make absolutely nil sense. My random vote is happy where it is; elli hasn't contributed anything more than shouting, and even Friend has contributed at least a little.
Gonna make a more dedicated reread later (gotta check other games).

OMFG. Please read the thread. I dunno if anyone else is accusing him of "not contributing", but that isn't the case on him at all. Let me try to explain.

1) I made a vote that looked like a policy lynch.
2) Redtail says "is that a policy lynch?"
3) Others find the question odd and pressure him.
4) Redtail flails about saying scummy things and trying vainly to deflect attention to others for "not contributing".

FoS: Pacman

Uh?
I beg to differ, sorry.
No matter what, this isn't an enough strong case to throw such a blitzlynch like this.

[SpyreX]

THATS IT

VOTES. REAL ONES. OR ELSE PHASE TWO.

YOU DONT WANT PHASE TWO.

[drmyshottyizsik]

actually whats wierd is that i have 0 votes on me... thats never happened before
anyway

unvote

happening too fast

[Midnight's Sorrow]

So when he asks why people are voting me (The two reasonless votes I mentioned) and if they were because of me asking if your vote was a policy lynch, and in the end the same thing happens to him (Again with two reasonless votes coming someones way), when he

then

asks (Quite reasonbly if may add) why they were now voting him(Because of two reasonless votes), and no one gives him an acceptble anwser...he is suddenly scum because he can't defend himself from nothing?

Do you understand how imploringly stupid that sounds, and why I am now not voting him?

[SpyreX]

Super Hi-C Tip: What was the reason for asking why people were voting for YOU?

[Midnight's Sorrow]

You know? I have no fucking idea! D:

Why

would

anyone ask why someones voting someone else? I ponder at the reason for why this would occur! O_O

/post if dripping sarcasm

[Ellibereth]

I read through the thread once and had a braindeadmelt of meltedness.
Like, didn't get anything. At all. Just a blur of words on the screen.
Will try again tomorrow when I'm not totally fuse blown.

I still do have that one obvscumread and that one obvtownread but ... bleh, I'll deal with this later.

[Friend]

SPREXY I <3 YOU TOO

Am I the only one who never has any idea what the fuck MS is saying? I've tried to read this like three times:

So when he asks why people are voting me (The two reasonless votes I mentioned) and if they were because of me asking if your vote was a policy lynch, and in the end the same thing happens to him (Again with two reasonless votes coming someones way), when he then asks (Quite reasonbly if may add) why they were now voting him(Because of two reasonless votes), and no one gives him an acceptble anwser...he is suddenly scum because he can't defend himself from nothing?

and I can't wrap my head around it. Too many fuckin parentheses man.

[SpyreX]

Lets try again:

At that point in time the statement "is this a policy lynch?" is a neutral feeling statement.

HOWEVER, by nature, it is a tie to the person being policy lynched.

The issue, nay, the rub, is commenting on it and not throwing a vote down on any of the parties involved.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Who said I haven't?

[SpyreX]

NOT YOU GOOD LORD

GOOD LORD

ITS FIVE PAGES

THIS SHOULDNT BE HARD

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Might want to be more specific then???

[Midnight's Sorrow]

EBWOP:

as far as who your talking to goes?

[SpyreX]

No seriously why would I have to be more specific IT IS THE MAJOR POINT OF THE GAME THUS FAR AND A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE MY GODDDDD

That's two.

One more. Just one more.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Your talking about Red, this much i can gather

What are you talking about when you say 'connected'?

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Excuse me...' a tie'

[SpyreX]

Would he have done that for anyone?

Is there something between the two of you?

Etc, etc.

I.E. when he gets lynched and flips scum just paint the target on your head so the vigs are sure to not miss.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Riiighttt...

Okay sir!

[redtail896]

OMFG. Please read the thread. I dunno if anyone else is accusing him of "not contributing", but that isn't the case on him at all. Let me try to explain.

1) I made a vote that looked like a policy lynch.
2) Redtail says "is that a policy lynch?"
3) Others find the question odd and pressure him.
4) Redtail flails about saying scummy things and trying vainly to deflect attention to others for "not contributing".

1. This undoubtedly happened.
2. I did not say that. MS said that. Then, after 2 people voted MS (presumably in response to that statement), I responded with

Wait, is this in reaction to his "smelling a policy lynch"? Really?

In short, I was questioning why people had quickly jumped onto MS. Again, all I'm doing is questioning their vote. Why is that scummy?
3. Again, this undoubtedly happened, although I still don't understand why others found it odd.
4. From what I can tell, the only scummy thing you've accused me of in my "flailing" is trying to deflect. And this brings us to the whole "no content thing.

Let's be clear about 2 things.
A. Before you came along LynchMePls, nobody had bothered to spell out a real case against me. I am not a mind reader; I can't know why you're voting for me unless you tell me. The best I can do is make an educated guess. Now, if I'm at L-5 and nobody has given me a reason, I just assume I'm being random voted (hence my question to Elli). But when I woke up and discovered myself at L-1, I obviously had to say something. You'll notice that multiple times I ask for somebody to explain the case against me.
B. I genuinely thought that I was being persecuted for lack of content. I found this unfair, and so pointed out other people that I felt had produced even less content. That's it. That's the "scummy flailing deflection" that you've accused me of. It only doesn't make sense because I discovered, later, that that wasn't the case. If this had just been explained earlier, we could've avoided the whole shebang.

Now, why did I think I was being accused of little content?

Redtail's last post just oozes scum out of its many orifices. "What? Huh? I didn't realize why my lack of desire to pressure anyone or even attempt to scumhunt is scummy!!"

Translation: I haven't shown any interest in scumhunting/desire to pressure, but I'm not scum because some people have even less of a desire to do so than myself!

These is where/why I interpreted that I was being wagoned for lack of content.

@LynchMePls: Why are you FOSing Pacman simply because he doesn't agree with you?

@Friend: He makes perfect sense to me, but then since he's defending me I've perhaps read it more closely. Basically, he's saying that I've never had a chance to defend myself because nobody gave a reason for the votes.

The issue, nay, the rub, is commenting on it and not throwing a vote down on any of the parties involved.

So now I'm scummy because I didn't vote in that post? Perhaps I wanted to hear an answer first?