Open 242 - Friends and Enemies Mafia (Over!)

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Might as well spoil things now instead of waiting for the mod flip.

Mafia Goon

But I will say this...

The case on me sucked and Battle Mage formulated a terrible case against me. How he managed to successfully push for my lynch, I don't know and I would be even more pissed off if I was town.

[Socrates]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Super Smash Bros. Fan (6) - Battle Mage, JordanA24, Jahudo, Haylen, Smashbro_of_the_SSS, zwet

Zwet (3) - gandalf, Super Smash Bros. Fan, molestargazer,
Jahudo (1) -
Gandalf (1) - CSL

Not Voting: DarkLightA,

With 11 alive it is 6 to lynch.

Super Smash Bros. Fan has been lynched. He was

mafia

.

It is now night 2. Day 2 will begin in 72 hours from this post.

EDIT: Countdown.

[Socrates]

DarkLightA has been killed. he was a

Mason

.

Day 2 has begun. With 9 alive, its 5 to lynch. Deadline is 14 days from this post, September 6, at whatever time it is right now where you are.

Countdown

[gandalf5166]

Okay, NOW I'm confirmed. Zwet lynch time.

VOTE: Zwet

[CSL]

This will be really easy...

Vote: Zwet

[Jahudo]

My gut still says zwet is town (against plenty of reason), but in his position I could understand him hammering as scum. I think I was wrong about SSSS though. If he was scum he wouldn't have needed to place that vote, since no majority means no lynch.

Mole is my top scum pick. It doesn't look like he tried to understand the SSBF wagon at all, just discounting it for as long as he could. Meanwhile he doesn't go out and say he finds zwet suspicious when he votes him. Just a comment on how BM's read that doesn't mean anything and doesn't make mole stand a stand on his own.

Vote: molestargazer

[CSL]

Your gut is most likely holding you back. gandalk, who is cleared, is announcing a zwet lynch, so vote zwet. Now.

[CSL]

EBWOP: Why did I press k instead of f? *Gandalf

[Haylen]

I'm not lynching anybody just because a cleared non-investigative role told me to.

[molestargazer]

Mole is my top scum pick. It doesn't look like he tried to understand the SSBF wagon at all, just discounting it for as long as he could. Meanwhile he doesn't go out and say he finds zwet suspicious when he votes him. Just a comment on how BM's read that doesn't mean anything and doesn't make mole stand a stand on his own.

Vote: molestargazer

1. I didn't completely discount the SSBF wagon. I didn't have much time, but I took a quick look at each.
2. I found Zwet the more suspicious of the 2. Hence the vote.

[gandalf5166]

CSL, you're stupid. I may be town, doesn't mean I'm smart. You may be the target for my next lynch. And Jahudo, I was also 100% sure that SSBF was town. :/ Doesn't make me scum. I'm still wondering where the case was.

[Jahudo]

@gandalf and CSL: What do you think about SSBF's early suspicion and later vote on zwetschenwasser? Does it look like distancing?

I think BM is town so if SSBF was trying to lynch Darklight or BM on day 1, I can find it reasonable for him to throw a scumbuddy into his top 3 and hope he didn't have to go full-on bus. He did seem to attack BM and Darklight more convincingly. One thing I'm wondering about is how SSBF agreed with Jordan's case. That would make it more difficult for SSBF to second-guess the case or change its tone, since he might have to be at odds with Jordan.

I didn't have much time, but I took a quick look at each.

It looked like you had plenty of time on August 20 to post in another game (that was not close to deadline BTW). Why couldn't you have spent an hour looking at the SSBF and zwet cases, and commented on them directly?

You had previously agreed with zwet's case (106 to 111) on gandalf. Then you say BM's reasons for finding zwetscenwasser were dubious? Can you explain that now?
Because from where I'm standing, BM was partly talking about the posts you also liked about zwets. So how are you not a hypocrite here?

And Jahudo, I was also 100% sure that SSBF was town. :/ Doesn't make me scum. I'm still wondering where the case was.

You make a valid point, but at least you explained why you voted zwet. Mole did not.

[gandalf5166]

Yes, I can see that. He threw zwet into his top three, but hardly even mentioned why he was scummy until the mason claim.

[CSL]

gandalf, I do NOT take kindly to that word.

Ha. If zwet flips scum, this is over. That's a big fat distance there against him.

[gandalf5166]

gandalf, I do NOT take kindly to that word.

Ha. If zwet flips scum, this is over. That's a big fat distance there against him.

Who are you talking about? Jahudo?

[CSL]

Response to Jahudo's question.

[gandalf5166]

So you think mole could be zwet's scumbuddy?

[CSL]

-facepalm- Learn to read, why don't you?

He asked me the same question he asked you about SSBF. The second line was my answer to his question.

[gandalf5166]

There are three mafia. How would the game be over?

[CSL]

Maybe I should read moar...

[zwetschenwasser]

^this
however CSL's mistake is a mild towntell.

[molestargazer]

It looked like you had plenty of time on August 20 to post in another game (that was not close to deadline BTW). Why couldn't you have spent an hour looking at the SSBF and zwet cases, and commented on them directly?

Because I'm lazy and I procrastinate.

You had previously agreed with zwet's case (106 to 111) on gandalf. Then you say BM's reasons for finding zwetscenwasser were dubious? Can you explain that now?

I can't change my mind?

So how are you not a hypocrite here?

I probably am. It happens quite a lot - I don't keep track of what I say about things, I come back on a different day and interpret things differently.

[CSL]

I enjoyed playing with you all, but until a certain game finishes, I'm not explaining what caused me to

request replacement

[zwetschenwasser]

CSL is now semiconfirmed town

[Socrates]

Bleh, I will begin searching for a replacement on the morrow.