Earth's Struggle - Game Over!

[DrippingGoofball]

Guys, I will personally help you all lynch Midnight if DGB flips town.

More weirdness from someone who should have known better.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm reading what I missed while I was away.

Rena is town (refer to post #952).

Nikanor is still town.

Starbuck is town.

SOMETHING ELSE:
The Tech Tree Power Ups are decided along with another player. Before I left to Caffwaong, I powered up the following players:
GhostWriter
BattleMage
Nikanor

GhostWriter was lynched, but my team mate didn't choose an alternate player to power up. Also, that team mate is kinda lurking, and has left the previous day's choices up to me as well, providing no opinion. I'm a bit worried.

[DrippingGoofball]

If MS flips town, I'm gonna be looking at DGB and BM.

I really still don't get this since AdrienC was on my Night 1 power up list.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm reading what I missed while I was away.

Rena is town (refer to post #952).

Nikanor is still town.

Starbuck is town.

SOMETHING ELSE:
The Tech Tree Power Ups are decided along with another player. Before I left to Caffwaong, I powered up the following players:
GhostWriter
BattleMage
Nikanor

GhostWriter was lynched, but my team mate didn't choose an alternate player to power up. Also, that team mate is kinda lurking, and has left the previous day's choices up to me as well, providing no opinion. I'm a bit worried.

Never mind, I confused Midnight's Sorrow with GhostWriter.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think we should lynch vezok.

The stubborness is scummy. Read my sig for details. It's just a way to stall.

[GhostWriter]

SOMETHING ELSE:
The Tech Tree Power Ups are decided along with another player. Before I left to Caffwaong, I powered up the following players:

GhostWriter

BattleMage
Nikanor

Which I can confirm.

[CSL]

If all three can confirm they got powered up, DGB is 100% not scum.

What I want is more votes on vezok. Not answering questions is scummy, providing bad reasons for not answering questions makes him even more scummy.

He's a liability in lylo if he is town.

[GhostWriter]

I did get DGB's upgrade last night. So i can confirm her ability.

BM already has. I had to wait longer, but I have it now.

[vezokpiraka]

I don't want to claim unless it's L-2.
I like how GW CSL and other people waggoned me when they are not asking quesiton or helping.

[CSL]

Ok. Why are you ignoring questions? And don't give me this "pissing off Zazie" bullcrap. Answer. The. Questions.

[ZONEACE]

I don't want to claim unless it's L-2.
I like how GW CSL and other people waggoned me when they are not asking quesiton or helping.

In their defense you're making it impossible to really focus on anyone else since you're deliberately, and obviously being anti-town.

[GhostWriter]

I like how your wagon is our helping. I like how you try to deflect attention away from you and onto your attackers by saying that their attacking of you to force you to answer the questions doesn't count for anything. I like how you mentioned questions, as if you yourself know anything of answering questions. I like how you mention claiming, and all we want is for you to answer questions.

[ZONEACE]

EBWOP:

GW Confirming DGB powered him up coupled with DGB claiming to have Powered up Nikanor (who I is currently at the top of my townliness list) has convinced me for now to

unvote

also VOTE: Vezo

Stop being a dick, and , you know, help the town.

[GhostWriter]

Waiting until L-2 to claim does NOTHING to help answering questions. I don't care to hear you come out with some incredible sounding role that is supposed to make us not want to lynch you. As DGB pointed out, you can easily be stalling to have created a fake-claim to get us off of you. So claiming saves you not. In fact, it might make you more scummy. You need to answer the questions.

[vezokpiraka]

Next up are TL/Vezok.
There were two things I didn’t like about TL.
-First off, the discussion between him and CSL. CSL gets wrongly accused and eventhough he explains why TL is wrong, he keeps pushing it. Then he asks CSL four questions that CSL doesn’t directly answer as was pointed out later and suddenly TL knows what CSL meant. It’s too bad TL never responded to this.
-The other point was a post that activated my gut and I just realised why. At the start of D2, TL states that DGB and CSL were wrong. However, if TL thought that NS was scum, he was also wrong as well. So this post doesn’t make sense if he was suspecting NS. On the other hand, if he wasn’t suspecting NS, it looks bad as well as he was trying to make it appear that he was suspecting NS with his first vote.

Vezok…
Let’s start simple. Can you explain the reasons behind your first DGB, your Star and your Toogy vote? And can you also state if you thought DGB is scum at the end of the day for the same reasons you suspected her first?
Another easy question. Why bring up that Rena is a different account from Haylen? You did secretly about it as if it was something that should be known by everyone. But in the end, you did nothing with it after you stated it.
Last, there was one interesting post of yours (post 1014). Here, you ask who should be lynched out of Star and DGB as Star had a so called guilty against DGB. However, at post 962 you voted DGB based upon Star’s ‘guilty’ result. So why ask this question in post 1014 when you already ‘knew’ the answer?
Ok, so it wasn’t the last bit ._. I have one thing to ask you. Why did you vote CSL over BM today?

I voted people who I found scummy at that time. I change my opinion quickly.
Somehow. I voted DGB at the end of the day for other reasons and the same at the beginning.
I was having fun with the Rean hayl thing. I had no idea we had a deadline.
Told you before. I wanted to know for future games.


Oh. You are so annoying. You made me answer qustions.

[CSL]

Answering questions is protown behavior. Now, we wait for Zazie on this.

I'm still for your lynch though, vezok.

[DrippingGoofball]

We need to lynch vezo.

[GhostWriter]

Not only were all of the questions not answered, but those that were were given half-ass excuses for attempts at answering, and gave no detail or insight at all to what you were thinking. All-in-all, completely unhelpful, and it seems purposefully so.

[Nikanor]

AdrienC is probably scum from what DGB has said.
DGB, can you claim your partner please? Mod-WIFOM says that your partner is scum, and if he's lurking and not submitting actions, then...
If you don't want to claim your partner, did your partner vote for you or call you scummy? If he did, then he's almost assuredly scum for allowing you full control of your joint action despite supposedly thinking you are scum.
I could probably go for a vezok lynch, since he's going to be lynched eventually and there's no time like the present et cetera, but I think that MPR is scummier.

[CSL]

Uh, Nikanor, you might not want to piss Haylenmod off by saying "Mod-WIFOM"

[Toogeloo]

Back from V/LA.

Why is it some people get abilities and others don't on the tech tree? lame...


How did CSL get off the hook from his wagon? I just kind of skimmed through and all of a sudden Vezo has a train and DGB is proclaiming CSL town.

[CSL]

Toogeloo. vezok not only said he wasn't going to answer questions, and when we finally forced him to, he half-assed it. VERY scummy.

So, votes on vezok.

[DrippingGoofball]

AdrienC is probably scum from what DGB has said.

He's dead town, actually. I don't get why he never acknowledged my action. Maybe he COULDN'T be powered up???

DGB, can you claim your partner please? Mod-WIFOM says that your partner is scum, and if he's lurking and not submitting actions, then...

Yeah I dunno if I should. Because the behavior in the QT matches that in-thread so... not sure what to think.

If you don't want to claim your partner, did your partner vote for you or call you scummy?

No, my partner did not.

[DrippingGoofball]

...DGB is proclaiming CSL town.

I hope I'm not wrong about this, but he seems to be really, really bad town in this game.

ALSO

Those of you that were powered up, and didn't get goodies, maybe you're not eligible. Maybe you should come forward.

AND ANOTHER THING

I'd really like the be back in Heaven. It was nice up there.

[SharkFinn]

Sorry. Havent had much time to put into this game. (also doesnt help when Im not gaining any abilities at all >_<). I'll answer ZazieR's post below.

Next we have her stating that she’s a passive person in general. So I have a request for you. Describe the similarities and the differences in your play in KoL Mafia and this game.

KoL I subbed in, was a VT, replaced in a claimed player (Chronopie to be more percise), so I just played without worrying too much I think...This game was the first I started from the beginning. Had no abilities to start and have yet to gain any. Really have not done well reading players yet in both games. Flip-flopping, with the occasional tunnel with 50/50 chance of actually being right (right with diddin in KoL, wrong with MS)

As for your question in that post, passiveness isn’t a sure sign of scum. However, my believe is that most players are more cautious when playing as scum, because they are afraid of getting lynched. On the other hand you have town who hate to be lynched, which causes a differences in behaviour. Hating is a different emotion than fearing.

Agree with this post, now that I'm beginning to understand mafia better.

What’s also interesting are the promises of re-reading. But for a different reason than Rena pointed out. Shark names specific players at some of these posts. And when looking at the list she posted, she did all of them, except one. This player happens to be the scum player that has already flipped, AGM. This to me screams scum interaction.

I genuinely felt that AGM was scummy with his posts. I was right thought, so give me a little credit there. Also like to know how that screams scum interaction?

Talking about your list (Post 1038), I’m interested in some of these names. First off is DGB, whom you had as town D1. Why the change of thought?

Cant make up my mind with him. Like his play at first, but re-looking didnt like it, nor did I like his responses after the fact NS flipped town.

The other would be CSL, who was seen as town at the time of that list. You later state a MS-CSL scumteam. But even now that MS has flipped town, you think he’s scum. How come?

Still a wild card. Playing like a scum, but maybe too much to actually be scum.[/b[
One last question, why aren't you tunneling with DGB and Chrono, while they are your suspects?

I think you meant tunneling them, not with them. I havent had the time lately to tunnel them. Ill hopefully find time this week to, but working til 11 + school starting isnt helping my situation

Also, Im a man, not a woman. Thanks . As for vezo, I hadnt see him as scum, but still iffy about the fact he didnt answer the questions.

Vezo: You forgot to answer one question from Zazier. Why did you vote CSL over BM?