Mini 1000: The Brave and the Beautiful (Game Over)

[Kast]

Flashback to the lynch scene. It actually says that EVERYONE went to Chun Li's room after the lynch to see if we could see why Muffin thought Chun Li was Evil. I'm assuming the whole thing visit is flavor (and not a result of any player abilities), however, it raises a possible experiment to try. Everyone should mention trusting or not trusting Muffin's investigation regarding Robo in their PMs tonight.

[Kast]

@Muffin-
Blame the mod =P

[Kast]

@BV-
Please chime in and share some thoughts. A lot has been shared since your last post.

[Iecerint]

Muffin, didn't you get information N2 that you'd been wrong about Robo? Was that something similar?

[ReaperCharlie]

Speculation: It is possible RC just got carried away in writing PM flavor...

*COUGH*






*looks around*

[Muffin]

Muffin, didn't you get information N2 that you'd been wrong about Robo? Was that something similar?

It was mentioned in passing while I was searching for my IDD to investigate magna. Paraphrasing, it was something like "I didn't use the IDD last night and was wrong, so I'm going to find my IDD this time to be sure"

[Muffin]

When had Shotty been to Chun Li's room? You say "flashback," so....

Shotty had apparently been to Chun Li's room twice:

Flashback to the lynch scene. It actually says that EVERYONE went to Chun Li's room after the lynch to see if we could see why Muffin thought Chun Li was Evil. I'm assuming the whole thing visit is flavor (and not a result of any player abilities), however, it raises a possible experiment to try. Everyone should mention trusting or not trusting Muffin's investigation regarding Robo in their PMs tonight.

-Shotty received a Night 2 Results PM which included flavor that stated Chun Li's room had an evil smell, though Chun Li herself had nothing evil or anything that indicated her of being evil.

[bv310]

@BV-
Please chime in and share some thoughts. A lot has been shared since your last post.

Care to summarize for me? I have no time to read everything. I will tell you one thing though, I will be willing to stake anything that MoI is town. His role, plus his abilities make very little sense as scum.

[Iecerint]

@ Muffin -- That's one occasion; the N2 PM is a flashback.

@ bv -- Convince me that MoI is town. I'm about to vote for him. The only other players I'd consider at this point without new revelations are you and possibly Kdub (and, come to think of it, that'd still kinda require revelations).

Also, give us your flavor in more detail, since you seen to think it makes MoI totes Rikku.

[Kast]

@BV-

Spoiler: Shotty/Kast is not mafia

-Shotty/Kast is uncounter-claimed responsible for killing Neto with "Shot"
-Muffin corroborates that someone tried to kill her (shot at her) on N2.
-Ythan was killed on N2.
-Nobody died on N3.
-Shotty unprompted claimed to have only 2 kills (both used).
Shotty/Kast is unlikely to be responsible for Ythan's death and is likely to be non-mafia (either Vig or SK).

Spoiler: MoI may be lying about Grapple Beam

-MoI originally claimed that all abilities targeting the Grapple Beam user are copied to the Grapple Beam target.
-The kill ability used on Neto was not copied (different mechanic caused the kill).
-MoI claims original claim was a bad paraphrase of Grapple Beam

Spoiler: Robo/Chun Li had an Evil Smell from her room

-Shotty/Kast got PM flavor stating there was an Evil smell from Chun Li's room.
-Muffin independently got similar PM flavor about an Evil smell.

Spoiler: I would like you to answer these questions:

-Does MoI's ability confirm he is Rikku (check with mod)?
--Is it possible mod gave a Rikku fake claim with abilities that match both Rikku and some other character?
--Why do you think Rikku cannot be evil?

@Muffin-
Iec is correct; those quotes both refer to the same PM.

@MoI-
I realize you haven't checked in since I asked, but just to keep it current:
-Please explain what you meant by this:

I also have some idea why someone was sleeping in Shotty’s doorway Night 2.

[bv310]

– Furcolow
– Iecerint
– Kdub
– Muffin

Now of these, I couldn't find any claims, but I'm sure there are some, so if anyone feels like fixing it, go ahead.

I went ahead and decided to try and find a proper suspect, so I iso'd Furc. On doing so, I was struck immediately by several things:

1) Many of his posts are either non-committal or vague.

2) He often goes out of his way to refer to himself as town. as in post ISO 86.

Unvote, Vote: Furcolow

I'll try to get a proper case up in the near future, but I'm going into a three-day stretch of 16-hour work days, so I'd like you guys to simply do what I did and actually read him.

[bv310]

SON OF A BITCH. Half my post just disappeared into the aether. One second.

[bv310]

Try this again.

MoI's second ability confirms him as Rikku. Rikku, unless we are playing some weird alignment-swapped game, is very much a protagonist.

In response to #1, I believe Kast's claim, especially after the last few pages.

#2: I highly doubt that MoI is lying. I believe that the "Destroyed" kill flavour is a general one, while "shot" is more specific to Kast.

#3: The "evil smell" is more than likely just RC getting a little overzealous on the flavour.

Also, the point towards MoI in your post is about me. I'll explain later.

[Muffin]

Is it possible for us to be in mylo?

[Iecerint]

1. While I am sympathetic to your point about Furc's playstyle, I am not convinced that that is a very reliable way to determine his alignment. Also, he is near 100% town if MoI is scum (works both ways).

2. What "second ability" of MoI's are you referring to? The secret one he used N3 that no one knows about?

3. You have ignored Kast's suggestion that MoI could have Rikku-consistent abilities while being some other character (like, any evil-aligned Thief female).

4. If you think you have information suggesting that MoI is town, you should probably share it.

[Muffin]

– Furcolow
– Iecerint
– Kdub
– Muffin

Now of these, I couldn't find any claims, but I'm sure there are some, so if anyone feels like fixing it, go ahead.

I claimed Lara Croft early on, I think it was D2.

[Iecerint]

I have not claimed a rolename yet. I've claimed my actions, though:

Track Ythan N1 (Null)
Watch MoI N2 (Null, though I did learn that he performed a night action)
Protect MoI N3 (No word on whether it was responsible for the no-kill; the other possible explanation is that Furco hid himself)

I suppose I don't mind throwing out a rolename if people want. I'd rather bv and/or Kdub do it first. I have 1-2 rolecrumbs out, anyway.

[Kast]

@BV-
-If you're soft claiming private communication with MoI, please don't soft claim and be direct. There's absolutely no need to keep that claim secret.
-If you're soft claiming a masonizer ability, also please be direct.

3 of the 4 players you named have claimed fairly extensively.
Fur- Tanya Adams - 2 Shot Role-Cop + Commuter (+ possibly more...) - N1 RBed by MoI; N2 RBed by Sexy Teen Wet Dream; N3 Commuted
Muffin- Lara Croft - Affiliation Cop (+ possibly more...) - N1 Guilty on Robo; N2 RBed by MoI; N3 RBed by Sexy Teen Wet Dream
Iec- ??? - JoAT (Watcher/Tracker/Doc/...) - N1 Tracked Ythan; N2 Watched MoI; N3 Doctored MoI

Speculation: The "Sexy Teen Wet Dream"-RBer does suggest a second scum, though it could also possibly be a townie with really bad night choices. There are some immediate video game babes who fit the bill that come to mind.

Preview Edit: I need to be faster...

[bv310]

I'll nameclaim, but I'd rather keep my role to myself and Magna for now. Magna's second ability gave us a QT to communicate which confirms him as Rikku.

I'm Alyx Vance, from the Half-Life series.

[Kast]

@BV-
Please be clear and check with the mod if you haven't done so yet.
-Is MoI's name confirmed to be Rikku?
-Did MoI's ability give you any confirmed information?

[bv310]

1) Yes.

2) I asked, but he just sent me a reply that consisted of HAHAHAHAHAHA, and that's it.

[Furcolow]

I figured you guys were scum together, bv, you were lurking while he tried to mislead the town.

[Iecerint]

(I was actually starting to lean that way, too.)

[Furcolow]

it's all too WIFOM to even make a case on really
I'm keeping my vote on MoI

[ReaperCharlie]

The Brave and the Beautiful - Vote Count 4.10

MagnaofIllusion [2] - Kast, Furcolow
Kast [2] - MagnaofIllusion, Muffin
Furcolow [1] - bv310

Not Voting [2] - Iecerint, Kdub


With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch. The deadline is Tuesday, August 24 at 9:30 pm EDT.