Of Gods And Men (GAME OVER!)

[DTMaster]

Lol. Except we know Tar's role name unless zombifying changes that too. Except, Tar should have died last night. Things to note.

Tar claimed the role information in the QT so I knew Mina had the death note. Hence the speculation and hence why I wanted MO to consider this as a possiblity. I mentioned to Tar that town having a full track and a weak track/full track is farfetched. Beholder said all PMs were sent as necessary, therefore I didn't get Tar's PM. Makes sense since there isn't a reason to announce that since it'll just confirm Tar's culted status.

My worship remained on GOOs, because I already placed it there and I couldn't change it. Therefore Ooba's analysis should be correct.

I obv protected Mina, as according to MO. I changed it from Parama since my initial guess was that Parama was the day vig based on Fate's play. Mina was the role cop, but Tar clarified that in his last post (weird).

Lottery: Snowboard

[DTMaster]

Before the lock, MO if Cult doesn't have a QT it's more imperative for Nikanor to be recruited then ever because he can create them for the cult.

[DTMaster]

Wait. You do realize that ABR's flip would have spelled: ABR is telling the truth. Autopsy S_B would have confirmed if Kathy used the weapon on S_B. Why didn't you do that MO?

[DTMaster]

New developments. Tar claimed that the PM he discussed to MO is true in our QT. MO. Consider that Faraday's power brings the track total to 3. 3 people who can track, 1 is unclaimed. This is ridiculous for town to have.

[Nikanor]

DTM: Do you not understand the concept of CULT LICH? That's probably what we have on our hands here. I'd suggest shooting Iec first, but he can't be shot so meh.

[Parama]

Iec is not the cult leader, Nik.

[Katy]

The exact role name that I got for Tarlahindur is Zombie Big Daddy, in case that is necessary for day vig. I think for the purposes of finding cult leader, regardless of what you think my alignment is, having two role cops is going to speed things up immensely. The cult leader is most likely lying about their role name, although I am not familiar with every type of character flavor we have in this game.

Where is this death note stuff coming from?

[Nikanor]

Zombie Big Daddy

Bioshock moment. *shivers*

Parama: It would help if you knew what a Lich was in Xylbot terms.
Basically, I think what we have on our hands is a modified Lich. My guess is that there is only one cult member at a time, but that cult member recruits people after his own death. I think that whoever Tar targeted is going to turn into a Zombie today after Tar's death. If we were to kill Tar's target before we kill Tar, then Tar's target wouldn't be recruited.
That's why I suggested killing Iec.

[Parama]

Dayvig on Iec, lynch Tar?

[Nikanor]

Iec has kill immunity.

[Parama]

Also, how would you account for the original rolename of Xite being Benevolent Spirit yet him flipping as "Zombie" later? Meh.

Preview Edit: Oh. Hmm.

[Parama]

The exact role name that I got for Tarlahindur is Zombie Big Daddy, in case that is necessary for day vig.

I think for the purposes of finding cult leader, regardless of what you think my alignment is, having two role cops is going to speed things up immensely.

The cult leader is most likely lying about their role name, although I am not familiar with every type of character flavor we have in this game.

Where is this death note stuff coming from?

Also in this post Katy confesses to being mafia. Particularly, the bolded part. But what do I know?

[Sobriquet]

Hey, people who're asking who I am. Remember how Plum/Pom claimed that if killed, she would be forcefully replaced? And how Plum said the Mod preferred something like an unknown alt or such for that purpose? Remember how Pom was killed and only just now flipped?

In other words, remember me? My role is the same as before, 'cept now I've used up my reincarnation bit.

Also, can anyone get me up to date with the specifics; I've occasionally been skimming and apparently there's this cult business screwing up a game which is otherwise going swimmingly. So.

[Nikanor]

I don't remember you. Are you an alt or something?\

ALSO I HATE YOUR AVATAR PLUM. WHYYYYYY

[Iecerint]

Huh? Is it tomorrow?

Reading.

[Iecerint]

No, I still have my worship ability. Or, at least, I haven't received any information on the subject from Kinetic, so I assume I still have my worship ability.

This mean that the other player who was supposed to worship Norse (TNM?) was either recruited or failed to worship on time.

@ People who have QTs with me -- I'll check them when I log in from a computer that has them all bookmarked.

[Iecerint]

OK, looking at Ooba's list, the other Norse worshipper was VV. Also, VV had 4 votes whereas I have 2 votes. So there is literally no reason to believe that I am voteless and the players who have indicated that I might be are not reading the game OR I do not understand a mechanic.

Parsimonious explanation is that VV cheated on worship because he wanted to use his ability in a specific way. If he's cult-aligned, he may have culted a 4-worshipper and voted where they were supposed to be.

The only possibilities given that are ooba (assigned JCA, should be 10 votes) and Fate (assigned Egyptian, shoudl be 5 votes) So, we need to know whether ooba or Fate lost worship. That would implicate VV as CL.

[Iecerint]

Well, Egyptians have 5 (consistent with Fate being culted and replaced with VV), but the other had 8, so that implies other funky stuff going on.

Anyone who failed to worship as indicated should claim as much immediately.

[Parama]

Iec, have you seen Nik's Lich theory?

In other news... why did we lynch Dram again? .-.

[Nikanor]

MO, why did you waste your autopsy on ABR instead of using it on LMP, or even Pom?

[Iecerint]

I saw the Lich theory. My thought upon seeing it honestly was that it was yet another obscure micro-version of a cult that a player brought up out of nowhere to justify a specific position on the back of minimal evidence. We were talking about a hypnotist cult just a few days ago, etc. (This one makes a LITTLE more sense to me in that at least we have undead flavor highly likely to be the cult IMO.) Also, the evidence that I am involved in it is sort of bogus AFAIK, as there is evidence that my votes are intact.

Also, it seems unlikely that Niki's plan works out, right, unless Katy is 110% mafia (cuz of what we've worked out about her ability resolution order from LMP's slot N1)? Cuz Tar was voteless (= voteless zombie) yesterday, but LMP was also a zombie yesterday. UNLESS, Tar only just his abilities and votes after LMP was killed. If that's the case, I think Niki's theory is still possible. I think I have that written down in a QT somewhere, so.

[Iecerint]

One point for Niki's plan is that it would explain why MO (I think? I haven't really analyzed the worship, but I figure it'd've come out by now) has managed to not be culted without him being a very specific kind of CL who pushes for sub-optimal lynches, etc.

[Iecerint]

Fate and VV should focus each other to see what happens.

Oh my.

First, this is sketchy. Second, this shows that Niki totally should've figured out that I had my worship intact, even if he couldn't be bothered with the specifics of how many worship votes everyone had.

Third, Niki's major theory he put forth D4 in QT was that he thought I was non-cult, so he was going to network me with gods to fight the cult, implying that he thought gods were cultproof, which is again at odds with a belief on his part that I would be recruited, though this part is only odd by implication.

[ooba]

JCA

Mina - 2
Parama - 1 -> Claimed
ooba - 4 -> Claimed
Faraday - 2
AdumbroDeus - 1 -> Killed due to inactivity
Nikanor - 1 -> Claimed (Deviation from the plan)

Actual: 11

Egyptian

Albatross - 1
Fate - 4

Actual: 5

Norse

VV - 4
Iec - 2 -> Claimed

Actual: 2

GOO

MO - 2 -> Claimed
DTM - 2 -> Claimed
TNM - 1

Actual: 8

Why in gods name did ya vote JCA Nik?

I'll do a worship analysis once everyone has claimed ... Plus other analysis too - Don't bring anyone close to a lynch .. Please don't dayvig anyone until I've given you my opinions ..

[Nikanor]

Because I didn't trust some people to worship as they were supposed to. I wanted to give JCA a greater margin for error. If I hadn't changed my vote then JCA would have won by only one vote, so I feel all justified now.