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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:24 am

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ScramblesTheDeathDealer wrote:
RandomMaster wrote:
Well, that's saddening, because
their is a 14% chance our IC is scum
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Let that sink in for a second. 14%. That is approx. 1 out of 7. Think about it. There are 9 players in this game, 2 of which are scum by the possible setups. So that's 2 out of 9, or in percentage, 22%. Possible slip? I'm not 100% sure. Explain.
Mere math error, sorry. But no, wouldn't it be 11%? 100/9.

Meh, We're in summer. :mrgreen:
Actually it's 22%. 2/9 is 0.222222(keep repeating) which is 22%.

@Esp: Was that directed towards STDD, and how does that warrant an unvote?
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:42 am

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No, it's one in nine. There are nine players, and the IC is one out of those nine players. So 11%
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:09 am

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Actually, shit, no, wait. It is 22%, but that's not really what's important. The point is that Espeonage is statistically just as likely to be mafia as anybody else is.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:47 am

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Really one could argue that there is an 11% chance that I am mafia 1 and failing that I have a 12.5 % chance of being mafia 2. That would make it 23.5% But as I said it doesn't really make a difference because that percentage is the same for everyone.

@RM: Yes and the two parts were unrelated. So I made a comment and then made an independant unvote. sorry for not making that clear.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:01 am

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Why did you unvote?
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:02 am

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Because. I'm not as sure in my read.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:18 pm

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Nobody, I think this is the part where you defend yourself, because I don't like it when people stop posting **after** they get cases built against them.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:12 pm

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ScramblesTheDeathDealer wrote:
Nobody, I think this is the part where you defend yourself, because I don't like it when people stop posting **after** they get cases built against them.
Yeah, I know. Sorry if it seems like I haven't been on or something.
Oh, I see, so now my ferocious (RAAWWRRR!!!11!!one!) gameplay went from being scummy to not scummy, once I call you out for having errors. It all makes so much sense!
Yes, I changed my mind twice. First I was suspeting you, then I wasn't. Your next post got me to rethink that. And the word choice was because I couldn't think of anything better.
I don't like how he kind of like, doesn't construct his own argument here, but instead uses the Wiki to bail him out. He's effectively saying 'well, the Wiki says it can be town, so I'm town', which isn't really much of an argument.
I wasn't trying to defend myself. I was just stating what the wiki said. My explanation of my first vote was pretty much just stating things without much purpose behind it.
Oh, apparently the reason was essentially OMGUS
It was the way he did it. Not because it was against me.
Again, Mr Nobody changes his vote for no discernible reason, but Rioku had voted for him in the post before, so it could easily be another OMGUS
The timing was coincidence. I had decided not to vote for Scrambles at the time and Rioku was the most suspected in my mind at the time. I had already voted for him before (Fos as I was already voting for him).
Scrambles starts an argument against Mr Nobody, and in the next post down, Mr Nobody changes his vote to him.

It was his argument that got me to resuspect him. Yes, my suspicions of him have been from his arguments against me, but it wasn't because of it being against me.
f the post below this contains Mr Nobody voting for me, I actually won't know whether to laugh or cry.
Naw, I'm still voting for Scrambles.
For me, this just screams as a fallback just in case if Rioku flips town, he could be like: "I had a gut feeling he was town". Also, how could you think that he could be town, yet the scummiest?
I thought he was scummiest, but wasn't too sure in my suspicions. I didn't even think of it being a fallback.

Well, I guess that's all I got. The only people I've ever most suspected is Rioku and Scrambles. I never voted for one just due to an attack against me (well, except for the first time sorta :P ). Anyway, that's all.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:23 am

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Mr Nobody wrote: Yes, I changed my mind twice. First I was suspeting you, then I wasn't. Your next post got me to rethink that. And the word choice was because I couldn't think of anything better.
Changing your mind twice is confusing for the town and thus makes you look scummy. You need to make up your mind and stick with it.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:46 am

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No, there's nothing wrong with anybody changing their mind. If you think someone is guilty, and then new information comes to light that makes you think that they actually might be innocent, then of course you're going to change your mind.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:58 am

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Hmm, not sure if this means anything, but Rioku and I were the ones voting for Nobody during RVS (I added my vote later on, of course). We're also the two people he's been switching back and forth between.

Also,
Vote: Mr Nobody.
I've stated my reasons before.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:01 am

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No, there's nothing wrong with anybody changing their mind. If you think someone is guilty, and then new information comes to light that makes you think that they actually might be innocent, then of course you're going to change your mind.
I think he's referring to me changing my mind twice rather than just once.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:15 am

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You can change your mind as many times as you like, as long as you tell us what it is that you're basing your change of mind on.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:03 am

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Vote Count


Espeonage: mallowgeno
RandomMaster: MilkandCookies
Scrambles: Mr Nobody
Mr Nobody: Rioku, Trendall, RandomMaster, Scrambles

Not Voting: Funkyzafara, Espeonage

Deadline is Thursday 19th August, 9pm GMT+1. 9 alive, 5 to lynch.

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Seriously. Read your role PM before playing.
I am sorry if you have to prod me, I have absolutely no concept of time.

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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:53 am

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Mr. Nobody is at L-1, am I right?
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:49 am

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Trendall wrote:Mr. Nobody is at L-1, am I right?
Yessir.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:08 am

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Now would be a good time to claim Mr. Nobody
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:50 am

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mallowgeno wrote:Now would be a good time to claim Mr. Nobody
Noone is to hammer should he claim VT. It is too early in the day and we can milk more discussion from this.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:23 am

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Espeonage wrote: Noone is to hammer should he claim VT. It is too early in the day and we can milk more discussion from this.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:29 am

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And I claim vanilla townie.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:38 pm

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Mr Nobody wrote:And I claim vanilla townie.
Anything else you would like to say?
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:14 pm

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Espeonage wrote:
mallowgeno wrote:Now would be a good time to claim Mr. Nobody
Noone is to hammer should he claim VT. It is too early in the day and we can milk more discussion from this.
Mr Nobody wrote:And I claim vanilla townie.
Espeonage, why'd you have to go and make that post BEFORE he claimed? That's pretty much saying "Hey, Nobody, if you claim VT, I'll protect you and prevent people from lynching you. Dun wurry." I would've been much happier if you had posted that after. A Nobody lynch has my stamp of approval.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:43 pm

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lol. I made that post because noone would think of hammering him if were anything other than a vt. comprende?

Would you lynch a claimed cop or doc day 1 just after they claimed? NO. But if they are a VT and then you might and it wouldn't be too bad.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:01 am

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But what if he DID false claim a PR to try and protect himself and then we had a CC? It would have brought more discussion than "Oh nobody hammer if he's VT" "Oh... I am VT...yeah"

And it's not like he would CLAIM scum, so the way you put it, we aren't lynching him any way. It sounds like you're trying to protect him.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:04 am

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Ok. If any of you read the being a good IC which I have to play by it even says that I need to teach you guys that you shouldn't lynch a claimed PR day 1. It actually says that. Now I was extending that to VT for the moment because we can still get more out of this game.

The reason this is how it is is because a scum will very unlikely claim a power role day 1. Due to the semi-open nature of the game scum can't be sure of any safe claims until deaths occur. Now we may lynch Mr. N and we probably will, my previous statements have been overrided. One session of townness doesn't override an overall scummy performance. Anyways I am just calling for no after claim quicklynch which thankfully didn't happen. Now we are in discussion and for that I am happy.

So basically the gist of this post is that I would be less inclined to lynch him if he had claimed an un-rivaled pr than the vt claim he made.
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