Newbie 988-Apocalypse(Over)-Scum win

[Beanman]

I say just hammer imo...

[McGriddle]

Wow, thought we would be into N1 by now.

@McG - still waiting to hear from you your stances on all the players, or at least who you think are your top 2(at least) suspects, and your reasons behind it?

Go read it then.

This is kind of suspicious because it makes me feel like you haven't been keeping up with the game, and that you're just looking to lay low and create a little drama.

As for bean. You are getting way too upset. Chill.

[Adrien C]

You gave two suspects. You didn't give stances on everyone. And your reasoning behind why you are down to Dekes and yabba could have been explained a bit more. Bean didn't really get upset either.

[tanstalas]

Wow, thought we would be into N1 by now.

@McG - still waiting to hear from you your stances on all the players, or at least who you think are your top 2(at least) suspects, and your reasons behind it?

Go read it then.

This is kind of suspicious because it makes me feel like you haven't been keeping up with the game, and that you're just looking to lay low and create a little drama.

As for bean. You are getting way too upset. Chill.

This..

This ^ is your reason for voting for me. It is a very dumb reason. Nothing in there shouts scum, it shouts bad time. And of COURSE he flew under the radar and was inactive, he had to be replaced, so they obviously didn't care about posting ITT. Your 4 lined case on her, and your nothing on me for a vote is completely ridiculous, and for that I would vote you, but I see how this game is going and if I did I would get the "Oh! Oh! He OMGUS'd Get him!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Despite my obvious reason to want you dead. Everyone else has done scummy things but do not strike me as predominantly scummy. I reserve my opinion on everyone else for when something else comes up that includes them.

One major thing I'd like to bring to everyones attention though is that he buddies with everyone in his PBP analysis except for me. And if you notice he semi-stands up for Dekes. So right now I see a Yabba/Dekes scum pair.

This is your PBPA of all the players? Seems more like you defending yourself against yabba's comments against you and trying to deflect suspicion back onto him.

Now I like your quote of "This is kind of suspicious because it makes me feel like you haven't been keeping up with the game" as it fits perfectly with what you are doing right now as you didn't even PARROT anyone on Dekes, you just said yabba/dekes scumpair. You said you reserve your opinion on everyone else for when something comes up that includes them. Well you included Dekes and yabba in your post, what is it that you find suspect in Dekes?

And I did not find that his post was "sticking up" for Dekes, just mentioning that the "proof" that has been put against him isn't wholly justifiable.

When you say he stands up for everyone else in his pbpa, did you even read his whole pbpa, he suspects Adrien as well. Do you expect him to think there are more than two scum? He suspects you and Adrien, if one of you get lynched and flip town I am sure he will come up with another suspect. At least he put some thought into his post and gave reasoning for voting you, which is more than I can say for you.

[McGriddle]

Wow, thought we would be into N1 by now.

@McG - still waiting to hear from you your stances on all the players, or at least who you think are your top 2(at least) suspects, and your reasons behind it?

Go read it then.

This is kind of suspicious because it makes me feel like you haven't been keeping up with the game, and that you're just looking to lay low and create a little drama.

As for bean. You are getting way too upset. Chill.

This..

This ^ is your reason for voting for me. It is a very dumb reason. Nothing in there shouts scum, it shouts bad time. And of COURSE he flew under the radar and was inactive, he had to be replaced, so they obviously didn't care about posting ITT. Your 4 lined case on her, and your nothing on me for a vote is completely ridiculous, and for that I would vote you, but I see how this game is going and if I did I would get the "Oh! Oh! He OMGUS'd Get him!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Despite my obvious reason to want you dead. Everyone else has done scummy things but do not strike me as predominantly scummy. I reserve my opinion on everyone else for when something else comes up that includes them.

One major thing I'd like to bring to everyones attention though is that he buddies with everyone in his PBP analysis except for me. And if you notice he semi-stands up for Dekes. So right now I see a Yabba/Dekes scum pair.

This is your PBPA of all the players? Seems more like you defending yourself against yabba's comments against you and trying to deflect suspicion back onto him.

Now I like your quote of "This is kind of suspicious because it makes me feel like you haven't been keeping up with the game" as it fits perfectly with what you are doing right now as you didn't even PARROT anyone on Dekes, you just said yabba/dekes scumpair. You said you reserve your opinion on everyone else for when something comes up that includes them. Well you included Dekes and yabba in your post, what is it that you find suspect in Dekes?

And I did not find that his post was "sticking up" for Dekes, just mentioning that the "proof" that has been put against him isn't wholly justifiable.

When you say he stands up for everyone else in his pbpa, did you even read his whole pbpa, he suspects Adrien as well. Do you expect him to think there are more than two scum? He suspects you and Adrien, if one of you get lynched and flip town I am sure he will come up with another suspect. At least he put some thought into his post and gave reasoning for voting you, which is more than I can say for you.

My biggest thing is that you asked who my top 2 suspects were and I clearly stated who it was and my reasoning behind it. This is all situational of course, lets say dekes flips town, I will think nothing more of the Yabba buddying deal. Let's say dekes flips scum, I am more likely to go after yabba more and question him more than anyone else. That being said that's just one of the grouping things I do. I look at who is buddying with who, or who could possibly be a scum pair, then I carry on with my scum hunting on that pov.

[Dekes]

Okay, I'm back and may be a bit drunk but I'm posting anyways

@Tux
This case is bad. And Beanman congratuling you on that case makes it even worse.
- Reading up on mafia theory =/= playing perfectly or even well in the first game
- In your qoute where I said townies I did mean townies as in pro-town roles....big difference
- I wanted to lynch kyle because I was convinced he was scum...Adrien didn't state as much about me up until his last post

@Beanman
Again you're just reading what you want to read and not the entirety of my post...more tunneling.

I refused to claim because no one asked me to. I'm gonna go kyle here and say, I will instantly claim (well, when I sign up next) once somebody outside of my wagon wants me to.

At this point, I'm not sure I can avoid my lynch. Beanman and Cliquey are dead-set (and dead-wrong) on me. Adrien wants to lynch me regardless of my alignment to seek out information. I still can't tell why tanstalas is voting me. So it just needs one more vote, Tux or McG seems to be likely candidates. I just hope my claim will give town enough information to find the real scum.

[Dekes]

EWBOP: last sentence should read "my flip" of course

[Beanman]

For someone who goes on and on about people misquoting, and taking things out of context, I didn't even comment on my copy and paste, I just did it, and your stating i'm taking it out of context. Taking what? I made no comment. Dekes, you are a horrible hypocrite. Your AtE isn't working. Can someone please Hammer?

[Dekes]

So in your eyes I've posted nothing but AtE, fluff and OMGUS in my last posts?

[Adrien C]

Actually, along with accusing people of misquoting you and taking things out of context, that is exactly what you've done lately.

[Adrien C]

And Tux asked for your claim...he's off your wagon.

[Dekes]

Actually, along with accusing people of misquoting you and taking things out of context, that is exactly what you've done lately.

I was accusing people of AtE, OMGUS and fluff only? I was'nt trying to build cases and find scummy snippets? Lol.

I'm just clariyfing,. in the kyle situation, I was not on the wagon, and asked for his claim.

I didn't ask for the claim this time, mostly because I felt like I didn't know what to do with it once we had it.

Why that's really applicable here, I'm not seeing.

[Adrien C]

Aye, I mistook that quote from him. My bad.

[Adrien C]

I apologize for mistaken that...carry on...

[Beanman]

Nothing but? no. I see extreme defense/attacking(?) on everyone who has suspicion/votes on you, which doesn't look good(omgus'y) I see quite a bit of poor me, I'm gonna be lynched(ate'y), not as much fluff per say, but no strong case have you presented than the one's that have been brought against you Dekes. We are literaly days now, from us being forced to no-lynch because we can't come to a desicion, You say you want town to win. Your two suspects are Cliquey and McG. let's say we lynch them, and your right. Your the hero. But what if your wrong sir? If they flip town, we have nothing, as every single person is suspicious of them. If you flip town, we have people who are clear and people who are more suspicious to pressure. Seems to me your lynch is the best chance for town to win, regardless of your flip...

[Beanman]

ebwop-*every singly person finds them suspicious* finds them suspicious is how that sentence was meant to be.

[Dekes]

We are literaly days now, from us being forced to no-lynch because we can't come to a desicion, You say you want town to win. Your two suspects are Cliquey and McG. let's say we lynch them, and your right. Your the hero. But what if your wrong sir? If they flip town, we have nothing, as every single person is suspicious of them. If you flip town, we have people who are clear and people who are more suspicious to pressure. Seems to me your lynch is the best chance for town to win, regardless of your flip...

How can you say that I declare myself as a hero when you say in the next sentence that everybody is suspicious of the two people? Everybody should be happy if we lynch scum (except for the second scum).
And if all people - as you state - are suspicious of McG and Cliquey, isn't the likeliness higher that more people are town of those who are suspicious, making those two more likely scum. Or to put it in another way: Isn't it more likely if only four or five people are suspicious of me that there are more scum are among those people?

[Beanman]

No, because all those people are also suspicious of Pacman and Tux for almost identical reasons. Which was Lack of activity. I really have yet to see anything that has been presented against any of them that screams SCUMMY. There is no higher likelihood there is more scum on your wagon than Cliqueys, as 1/2 the wagon are the same people, I'm obvtown, and then we have cliquey. The fact that McG hasn't quickhammered, actually makes him less suspicious in my eye. Regardless of any of that, we all have the same likelyhood of being cast into our roles, so your logic doesn't work....

[pacman281292]

Post coming on some 30-40 minutes. I can't think with an empty stomach.
@MOD: You put Adrien as not voting and voting Dekes at the same time at the page 21 votecount. Now please call me liar.

[Jackabomb]

Indeed I did. The latest vote count is completely accurate, however. I went through ISO on each of you to find your most recent vote/unvote to make sure of it.

[Tuxhedoh]

What the heck you only play your first game once - VOTE: Dekes

[Adrien C]

Dekes, if you feel like telling us your flip now, go ahead. The night kill will probably be either me or Bean. Possibly Cliquey if he is town.

[Jackabomb]

Vote count 1.18
Pacman-

;

Tanstalas-

;

Dekes-

Adrien C, Cliquey, Beanman, Tanstalas, Tuxhedoh;

Cliquey-

;

Beanman-

;

yabbaguy-

;

McGriddle-

Yabbaguy;

Not voting-

McGriddle, Pacman, Dekes;

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch or no lynch.
8 days until deadline.

Lynch scene coming.

[tanstalas]

No, because all those people are also suspicious of Pacman and Tux for almost identical reasons. Which was Lack of activity. I really have yet to see anything that has been presented against any of them that screams SCUMMY. There is no higher likelihood there is more scum on your wagon than Cliqueys, as 1/2 the wagon are the same people, I'm obvtown, and then we have cliquey. The fact that McG hasn't quickhammered, actually makes him less suspicious in my eye. Regardless of any of that, we all have the same likelyhood of being cast into our roles, so your logic doesn't work....

This is true - it was very hard early game to determine who was scum as kyle, mont and MoB were all inactive or just plain fuckin' crazy. I'll let you guess who the crazy one was. Now that we have replacements it is getting better, though McG either isn't getting what I asked him or is trying to be subterfuge and he is still high on my radar. While Cliquey(kyle) is 2nd or 3rd on it.

If you flip town, I am going to push for a McG lynch tomorrow - If I am still here - as his predecessor was vague and he is doing the same thing (in my eyes)

[Jackabomb]

In hushed tones, the nine members of your little band argued throughout the rest of the day, barely even breaking for dinner. You notice that they didn't actually stop for that. Accusations were exchanged in between bites. You even accused each other based on your manner of eating! But alas. Dinner was over. It was time to make your decision. As you led dekes toward the great crack in the center of the underground camp, the interrogation began. Despite his pleas, beanman insisted he was evil. As you held dekes over the crack which was the only opening to the magma-pits below, tuxhedoh shrugged and said laughingly, "Hey! You get to play your first game once!". "Do you not take this seriously?", shouted dekes. "Nope", replied tuxhedoh, then promptly shoved him in. The following explosion blasted up all manner of ash, debris, bones, but most importantly, dekes' wallet. Almost fearfully now, yabbaguy opened it. A little placard at the front read "Ph.D, Dekes. Graduate of the Post-Apocalypse University of Useless Knowledge Med School."
The charred skull seemed to be laughing at your foolery with it's expression. In a fit of rage, you kick it back over the edge. You look around at your remaining comrades, wondering which of them will be "sleeping in" tomorrow. And begin the long walk back.

Bottom-Line: Dekes, The Doctor, has been lynched. Night 1 has begun. Topic will be locked.