Mini 1005: Mafiaphobes! (Game over)

[Tazaro]

This makes

no

sense. If you believe the power roles have “true claimed” why do you suddenly LEAP to the conclusion that I was blocked from making the kill? AKA, if you believe there is a town watcher, JK and ??? why does that mean I was the one doing the killing? Why can't it mean that I was just sat at home being

protected

? The power roles claiming have nothing to do with me or my role. You are really reaching bad here.

If you want to play

deliberately dense

here, that's fine by me.

Gee golly, insult mode at this juncture. Sheesh.

[Oso]

Not at insult. My baiting her with a accusation that she is being deliberately dense to draw me into further discussions to perhaps get a back pedal on my part or something she can use to give herself some wiggle room. I'm not biting that hook.

This is an argument made on my thinking of the way the game might be balanced. Three powers roles for town is about right for the number of power roles in the game. There was no Night Kill last night when there should have been. We have a claimed power role (diddin's) that has the power to prevent someone from doing something, he targetted Sotty7.

High probability, at least in my mind, that he did in fact prevent last night's kill. This argument stands by itself without the need of any supporting evidence in sotty's prior play.

[vezokpiraka]

Yes. He may have protected the kill last night.
We all have to remember he is Jailkeeper.
Sotty could wither be the scum who submited the kill or the person who got saved.

[Tazaro]

Heh, that's sensible, Oso. I think I'd best follow reason:

UNVOTE

VOTE: Sotty7

[Sotty7]

Oso, I don't see what you are driving at all. Calling me stupid doesn't help me see your point. Me being jailed is a separate event from the other "power roles" one has no baring on the other. They are interdependent events In my mind you are using faulty justification to vote me.

[Sotty7]

Guess I am stupid, I see no sensible reasoning there at all.

[vezokpiraka]

Heh, that's sensible, Oso. I think I'd best follow reason:

UNVOTE

VOTE: Sotty7

Tazaro. Why are you voting sotty?
I already told you that voting sotty because she got jailed doesn't mean ti;s a good reason.

[Oso]

Yes. He may have protected the kill last night.
We all have to remember he is Jailkeeper.
Sotty could wither be the scum who submited the kill

or the person who got saved

.

Not buying that bold part. You(vezo) were the scum target for last night even if you account for anyone's thinking you might be easily lynchable today. Both Poirot and myself mentioned yesterday that we thought you had soft claimed. But, because of your play, if I were in scum's shows I take the shot because I would figure there was a low chance of you drawing a doctor's protection.

Sotty was not the NK target last night.

[Tazaro]

The reasoning of what it's all about is: There wasn't a nightkill AND sotty7 was claimed by diddin to be jailed.
Now, do you guys want to take diddin's claim with a major mafiagoon-sized grain of salt or not? What do you say about this question, Sotty7?

[Sotty7]

Unvote, Vote: Oso

He is trying to run me out on a POE but is now some how convinced that he knows who the scum targeted last night. It's all shaky reasoning with no basis in fact outside his own assumptions. Also has zero consideration for possible scum power roles. If everyone who has claimed a power is telling the truth, don't you think the scum would have some counter to that?

[Sotty7]

The reasoning of what it's all about is: There wasn't a nightkill AND sotty7 was claimed by diddin to be jailed.
Now, do you guys want to take diddin's claim with a major mafiagoon-sized grain of salt or not? What do you say about this question, Sotty7?

Dude that has been the case since diddin claimed the other day. diddin himself doesn't think I am scum.

Explain to me why I wasn't protected, and then explain why the amount of power roles that have claimed today have anything to do with that.

[Tazaro]

I believe you Sotty, Oso is playing it real slippery. "Both Poirot and myself mentioned yesterday that we thought you had soft claimed" said Oso. Conspiracy post incoming: So... what, you, Oso, mentioned the soft claim to support the idea that vezo would have been the NK target instead of Sotty?

UNVOTE

VOTE: Oso

[vezokpiraka]

KageLord has a role. I have no idea what his role is.
Don't rush the Oso waogn. Wait for KageLord to come back. If he is a cop or something like that he will object to the wagon.
Until then...

[Oso]

Unvote, Vote: Oso

He is trying to run me out on a POE but is now some how convinced that he knows who the scum targeted last night.

It's all shaky reasoning with no basis in fact outside his own assumptions. Also has zero consideration for possible scum power roles. If everyone who has claimed a power is telling the truth, don't you think the scum would have some counter to that?

Scum probably do have roles that counter towns but I'd bet money that they have no way to counter a JailKeeper getting lucky enough to have jailed their nightkiller.

And yes, I do think I know what the scum might have done last night based on what I would have done in their position and these

assumptions

I am making are based on that.

[Tazaro]

Vezo, since when do you talk about not rushing wagons?

[vezokpiraka]

Oh. Something odd struck me today. I am being coherent and people percieve me as town.
Ah gotta get out of this feeling.

unvote
Vote Oso

[Tazaro]

Now, I think you could actually be the scum partner, Vezo.

[Oso]

I just realized something. I never unvoted.

Unvote:
Vote: Sotty7

[vezokpiraka]

I just realized something. I never unvoted.

Unvote:
Vote: Sotty7

Awesome. I am fascinated.

[Tazaro]

I just realized something. I never unvoted.

Unvote:
Vote: Sotty7

Awesome. I am fascinated.

[Oso]

Awesome. I am fascinated.

You are an alt of The Buttonmen aren't you?

[Tazaro]

Are you guys trying to eclipse the posting above? Oso has received three votes on this page.

[Sotty7]

In one post vezo says don't rush the wagon and in his very next he votes Ozo. Can you explain the change of opinion vezo?

[Tazaro]

He can't; that is the wrongest post he's made and it looks like an overreaction to my implicit idea that he's protecting Oso to me.

[Humble Poirot]

To quote Eric Cartman...

(long pause) ... THE FUCK...

Seriously, guys... (what) THE FUCK...

I've read from work and can't believe the quality of this game has lowered so much.

Tazaro has accomplished to evade every question and destroy every game related content he's touched. He has never addressed and issue as he should've and continually appealed to emotion without offering tangible explanations. Worst now, he is crazily vote hopping.

He has even beaten Vezok in scummyness (and that is saying something).

My dream involves a modkill of both players (and ideally they flip scum but the double death would be gratifying enough regardless of alignment, specially considering we wouldn't have them to spoil the game near the end).

Oso's vote on sotty7 is far (I mean REALLY far) from satisfactory and I'll develop on this and more things when I get home. The post will be as brief and useful as possible so that everyone reads it and answers the questions directed at them.

As xvart said, don't rush the damn voting, we are at a point where we don't know where we stand anymore. Don't vote without a clear case. Single line vague reasons are not enough. All this is making a mess out of the game and ONLY benefits scum. We won't be able to analyze the past if you keep adding garbage all over. That's a nice scumtactic that allows scum to manipulate emotions far into the game because no one can remember how they got there.

Again, stop.