Newbie 985 Game over

[FakeGod]

Lol I wouldn't be surprised if the bear team actually are scum

Bear team?

[FakeGod]

With 5-6 days til deadline we need to start moving towards a hammer. What does this mean? It doesn't mean just bandwagoning, it means EVERYONE putting down your vote on who you find really scummy, or at least one of your top 2 or 3 suspects.

I would like to deal with my two biggies first. Tvella and Zach.

Vote Tvellalott

unvote

Nashi, do you even know why I'm voting tvell?

You better have a good explanation for your unvote, because actions like this is exactly why my vote's on tvell right now.

[Zachrulez]

I would definitely be down for a Parker lynch.

[NashiNashi]

Nashi, do you even know why I'm voting tvell?

You better have a good explanation for your unvote, because actions like this is exactly why my vote's on tvell right now.

You voted him for what you perceived as inconsistency, of course. Except that most people are inconsistent at least to a degree at the first day of the game, and I am satisfied with the explanation that the whole third person to vote thing don't stand out THAT much.

I unvoted because we still have five days. It's not a LyLo, not even a potential missing the deadline.

So FakeGod, why are you so jumpy about not lynching Tv right now rather than say four days later? Mind to explain that?

[NashiNashi]

Oh, FakeGod. When the time comes I have no qualm at hammering anyone. I have nothing to hide.

[FakeGod]

When there were 4 votes on Kal, tvell also unvoted right away, because it's apparently "dangerous" because scum might come in and quick hammer.

Of course, no scum in their right mind would be dumb enough to try to lynch with 2 weeks left till deadline, so I dismissed his explanation and decided that he was scum who wanted Kal's lynch, but not bold enough to actually commit his vote on him.

Please don't misrep me. Nowhere did I say we need to lynch him

right now

.

Unless we push players to L-1, we're never going to get anywhere. I don't see why you are so afraid to push tvell into L-1.

If it meant that we're trading 4-5 days of discussion for impatient mafia to jump out and hammer away a poor innocent townie and put himself in the spotlight tomorrow, I'd gladly do it.

Preview: That's good to know.

[Kalofer]

Lol I wouldn't be surprised if the bear team actually are scum

Bear team?

FIGURE IT OUT!!!

[Zachrulez]

Parker and Nikanor I'm assuming.

[Kalofer]

By the way I would also be down for a DP lynch, I'm dying to know what he is underneath that weird behaviour of his.

You assume correct.

[Kalofer]

No wait, you don't assume correct, it's Abe and Nik becauseeeee they've both got bear avatars, hence bear team. Jeez for people who go digging deep for answers they can't spot what's on the surface.

[Zachrulez]

Nikanor's avatar is pretty blatantly a bear.

[Zachrulez]

Oh wait no I read that post wrong. For some reason Parker's avi gave me a bear vibe.

[Zachrulez]

Anyway, what makes you think those two might be the scumteam?

[FakeGod]

Abe's a bear? I thought he was an egg....

[Abe27342]

It's a pandabear! A better question is what the hell is your avatar Fakegod? XDD

Oh, and tvell, I never actually *voted* for you. I just agreed with kalofer's argument. In fact, Nikanor just jumped up a bit on my suspicion level. You still think kalofer is scum? Do you have new evidence since your major accusation and followup on pages 6 and 10? I assume your second scumpeg is DP as you said you'd be down for a lynch on him. Do you at least have thoughts on the other players if either of these turn out to be town?

[DavidParker]

In case you didn't notice zach, I'm the one who forced his scum-claim there... I already explained why I pressured you.

[Excedrin]

Vote Count

Abe27342 (1): tvellalott
tvellalott (3): Zachrulez, FakeGod, Kalofer
Kalofer (3): Nikanor, Zombeh-Pug, DavidParker

not voting: Abe27342, NashiNashi
alive: 9 majority: 5

[Nikanor]

And if Nik manages to convince everyone with his erroneous beliefs that I'm scum, befoer I go can someone please just tell me whats a quasi something such as a quasi - scum claim and Nik, when you play like this and focus down one person, how usually are you correct?

On day one, I'm usually wrong. However, process of elimination leads me to be right in lylo most of the time.
Anyway, this'll make you happy:

Unvote. Vote: DavidParker.

Do you at least have thoughts on the other players if either of these turn out to be town?

Well, I've got town reads on Abe, Nashi, tvell and Zach. If Kalofer or David turn out to be town, I'd be up to lynch anyone who is not on my town list, starting with Zombeh-Pug.

[Kalofer]

Zach, Nik's absolute certainty that I'm scum and the fact that he hardly said much after that and the fact that he voted for me because of the FakeGod scandal so long ago and the fact that he's looking for every small thing he can find to incriminate me (even though that could be a town tell, since minor details are most important) is what makes me believe he could be scum, but I doubt it more than I believe it. As for Abe...I got nothing on him, but that can be counted as something because "the presence of nothing is the absence of something" meaning he could be so good a scum that he's completely managed to elude everyone simply by staying low. There's also his "mild" playing style (if I may call it that) but that's a null tell. There's also the fact that they have hardly communicated between each other, neither has said something to the other.

Btw, I'm guessing Fake's avatar is an Aperture Science turret from the game Portal, by Valve (great game, great gaming company, I advise you to play it if you're into those things), can't wait for portal 2 eh Fake?

And can some one please tell me what Quasi-... means?

[Nikanor]

He's saying with that post that you claimed scum without actually saying you're scum.

Also, bears are amazing creatures, second only to cephalopods. You should respect them.

[Kalofer]

Who said I don't respect bears, I respect them very much, in fact I love bears, what are you a grizzly?
And yeah cephalopods are amazing especially the one that predicted Germany's play in the World Cup.

[Nikanor]

It's a sloth bear. It is indigenous to India, Sri Lanka, and South-East Asia. They are named as sloth bears because of the flapping, clumsy sound they make with their feet as they walk, and also because they are able to (and often) hang upside-down from trees, like a sloth.
They are also known for being a man-killer, and for being enslaved by men for use in shows.

And yeah cephalopods are amazing especially the one that predicted Germany's play in the World Cup.

That was me.

[DavidParker]

Honestly, I had a fairly scummy read on zombeh initially, and was thinking of switching my vote from zach to him recently, but did a quick iso on him, and everything there gives me a town read on him, Nikanor. What do you find scummy about him?

And Kalofer, basically this is how I understand the events that happened:

People voted you for finding something about you scummy..
You reacted by saying "what did I do wrong?" (without defending yourself)
I said something along the lines of, "oh too bad, better luck next time when you are scum"
You didn't deny being scum, just kept asking about what you can do better to not seem scummy. (ie: semi-claiming scum, imo a town-player here would have denied being scum)

Zach points out more or less how you claimed scum, and gets you under pressure. You finally then deny being scum once you realize you aren't definitely being lynched. It seems you only denied being scum once you realized you weren't being lynched (yet). You are a player who has to be lynched sooner or later, and won't make it to LYLO. With that said, you are also very likely to flip scum at this point (at least from my POV), and because of all this, you will make the best lynch today. (sorry zach, i'll get you tomorrow)

[Zachrulez]

I could go either way on Kalofer, but based on his play as a whole and his reactions to pressure, I lean town.

Honestly, I had a fairly scummy read on zombeh initially, and was thinking of switching my vote from zach to him recently, but did a quick iso on him, and everything there gives me a town read on him, Nikanor. What do you find scummy about him?

What's town about him lurking, and pretty much attacking everyone else he goes after with an accusation of lurking?

And Kalofer, basically this is how I understand the events that happened:

People voted you for finding something about you scummy..
You reacted by saying "what did I do wrong?" (without defending yourself)
I said something along the lines of, "oh too bad, better luck next time when you are scum"
You didn't deny being scum, just kept asking about what you can do better to not seem scummy. (ie: semi-claiming scum, imo a town-player here would have denied being scum)

Covered this. His reaction was strange, but I'm less confident then I was that it means scum.

Zach points out more or less how you claimed scum, and gets you under pressure. You finally then deny being scum once you realize you aren't definitely being lynched. It seems you only denied being scum once you realized you weren't being lynched (yet). You are a player who has to be lynched sooner or later, and won't make it to LYLO. With that said, you are also very likely to flip scum at this point (at least from my POV), and because of all this, you will make the best lynch today. (sorry zach, i'll get you tomorrow)

Let me get this straight. You suspect me of being scum, but are still using a case I've made against another player 7 pages ago as a basis that he makes the best lynch, and planning to pressure me tomorrow BEFORE he even flips, presuming that I will certainly survive the night?

Unvote: Vote: DavidParker

[DavidParker]

I think you need to check your sarcasm-detector.

Also, I love how you keep saying "your case".