Newbie 988-Apocalypse(Over)-Scum win

[tanstalas]

@tan: I did explain my deadline query. I said that EVERY SINGLE OTHER NEWBIE GAME THAT I'VE SEEN OTHER THAN THIS ONE states the deadline up-front since it's mostly an ironclad 3 weeks. I was merely double-checking. Kind of a dick move to be double-checking the mod, but hey, I was just making sure he had it all under control. :\

Why are you dabbling into three suspects with only two Mafia in the game? Are you saying I'm a backup if one of the two is a mislynch?

@yabba, As I said in my previous post, that is the only reason why I even remotely suspect you, and it was moreso that I didn't find anyone else scummy as of yet. It's not like you are right behind those 2 in terms of being a suspect, I asked what everyone else thought were their top 3.. Woudn't be fair to ask that if I couldn't supply a top 3 myself

Acsii Summiness Chart

MoB---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yabba-(everyone else)
klye-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------/

And as I said in previous post as well, my third suspect would probably change based on who we lynch and what they flipped

[Tuxhedoh]

So my last post for the evening.... I really expected kyle to be dead when I got back.
My Top 3:
MoB - so we haven't heard from her in over 24hrs and 8 of her 20 posts were during a one hour span yesterday, this was her attempt to contribute content to distance herself from kyle99 who was effectively not providing content.

If she is town, she's not being helpful.

kyle99 - while I expect that we'll hear a bit for from him before I wake up in the morning, a summary of his activity today:
-redirected suscpicion towards MoB (the most easily targetted)
-claims VT
-then questions Adrien

Never making much attempt at all to make a case against anyone else.

While Dekes makes some good points ISO-11, he's still on my short list.
_____

We're into the 5th RL day of D1, I'm not real experienced, yabba and adrien seem to be implying that it's still pretty early to lynch.

I've seen the abbreviations CC and FFS, i've checked the wiki and am not finding the meanings. Can someone help me out?

[Adrien C]

CC is counter claim. I've never seen FFS before.

[kyle99]

So my last post for the evening.... I really expected kyle to be dead when I got back.
My Top 3:
MoB - so we haven't heard from her in over 24hrs and 8 of her 20 posts were during a one hour span yesterday, this was her attempt to contribute content to distance herself from kyle99 who was effectively not providing content.

If she is town, she's not being helpful.

kyle99 - while I expect that we'll hear a bit for from him before I wake up in the morning, a summary of his activity today:
-

redirected suscpicion towards MoB

(the most easily targetted)
-claims VT
-then

questions Adrien

Never making much attempt at all to make a case against anyone else.

While Dekes makes some good points ISO-11, he's still on my short list.
_____

We're into the 5th RL day of D1, I'm not real experienced, yabba and adrien seem to be implying that it's still pretty early to lynch.

I've seen the abbreviations CC and FFS, i've checked the wiki and am not finding the meanings. Can someone help me out?

I'm intrigued at the bolded part. I make a great case against MoB, and throw out the possible scumpair of MoB and Adrien, and you're wondering why I'm not making a 3rd case? Do you think there's 3 scum in this game?

Also, MoB is the easiest target because she's scum. Usually works out that way.

[tanstalas]

CC is counter claim. I've never seen FFS before.

For **** Sakes?

* word rhymes with Duck

[Dekes]

Damn, you definitely can't say this is a slow game. Okay, I'll start with this quote and go on from there:

If kyle is town, there is a strong case against Adrien/MoB scumbuddy pair. If Mob flips scum, there is a strong case of Adrien/Mob scumbuddy pair. If MoB is lynched town, I see no loss there. If kyle flips mafia, well, we killed a mafia, but then, finding Kyle's partner will be extremely hard at this point. Hmmmm....

You've posted some well-crafted posts later on where I can agree with most of the points but this right here is where I disagree with you.

If we are to assume the worse case - that we mislynch today - I just believe that a kyle mislynch will be much more profitable to town than a Mob mislynch.
You say that if Mob flips town there's no loss there. I beg to differ, I think it's pretty much a completely wasted mislynch for town. Who would you go for the next day? Would you go back to kyle? And then who else? Your Adrien/Mob scum team is out of the question then. Do you honestly believe in a kyle/Adrien scum team? Yeah, didn't think so. Either kyle or Adrien & montgomery? Maybe. But I can see the Mob lynch as being annoyed town wanting to get rid of their most annoying player. I just don't see enough information to work with the next day if she flips town.
Additionally, I don't see Mob as much of a threat. It's not like she could lead town to a lynch on her own. And If she keeps on behaving scummy/anti-town on Day 2 we can still lynch her tomorrow.

On the other hand, if kyle flips town there's so much more info you can extract out of the wagon. You can look at yabba's posts when he started the wagon and how he handled the situation afterwards. You can ISO the hell out of Adrien, there's a lot of intriguing stuff. And I'm curious whether Adrien would really be pushing for a Mob lynch tomorrow. It is kind of strange how he emphasizes in like every post that Mob is #2 on his list. But for now he's not on my scumdar.
You can even investigate me seeing as how pushy I am towards a kyle lynch. And then there's how tanstalas, Tuxhedoh and montgomery have handled the kyle wagon differently so far.

With that being said, I'm keeping my vote on kyle. Just because other people have tried to clear his name/explain his behaviour directing town towards a Mob lynch doesn't make his posts less scummy in my opinion.

[kyle99]

Damn, you definitely can't say this is a slow game. Okay, I'll start with this quote and go on from there:

If kyle is town, there is a strong case against Adrien/MoB scumbuddy pair. If Mob flips scum, there is a strong case of Adrien/Mob scumbuddy pair. If MoB is lynched town, I see no loss there. If kyle flips mafia, well, we killed a mafia, but then, finding Kyle's partner will be extremely hard at this point. Hmmmm....

You've posted some well-crafted posts later on where I can agree with most of the points but this right here is where I disagree with you.

If we are to assume the worse case - that we mislynch today - I just believe that a kyle mislynch will be much more profitable to town than a Mob mislynch.
You say that if Mob flips town there's no loss there. I beg to differ, I think it's pretty much a completely wasted mislynch for town. Who would you go for the next day? Would you go back to kyle? And then who else? Your Adrien/Mob scum team is out of the question then. Do you honestly believe in a kyle/Adrien scum team? Yeah, didn't think so. Either kyle or Adrien & montgomery? Maybe. But I can see the Mob lynch as being annoyed town wanting to get rid of their most annoying player. I just don't see enough information to work with the next day if she flips town.
Additionally, I don't see Mob as much of a threat. It's not like she could lead town to a lynch on her own. And If she keeps on behaving scummy/anti-town on Day 2 we can still lynch her tomorrow.

On the other hand, if kyle flips town there's so much more info you can extract out of the wagon. You can look at yabba's posts when he started the wagon and how he handled the situation afterwards. You can ISO the hell out of Adrien, there's a lot of intriguing stuff. And I'm curious whether Adrien would really be pushing for a Mob lynch tomorrow. It is kind of strange how he emphasizes in like every post that Mob is #2 on his list. But for now he's not on my scumdar.
You can even investigate me seeing as how pushy I am towards a kyle lynch. And then there's how tanstalas, Tuxhedoh and montgomery have handled the kyle wagon differently so far.

With that being said, I'm keeping my vote on kyle. Just because other people have tried to clear his name/explain his behaviour directing town towards a Mob lynch doesn't make his posts less scummy in my opinion.

The problem is with that situation you brought up is your assuming that both me and MoB would be mislynches. Assuming that a lynch could be a mislynch and wondering which mislynch would be less worse is bad and anti-town. Vote on who's scum and nothing else.

[Beanman]

There is no case on kyle anymore. He stopped active lurking along ass time ago, and is contributing his own ideas. His bandwagon is scummy as hell, as it's wasteing valuable scum hunting time.

unvote; vote Dekes

I want a damn good reason from you and the other BW's as to why kyle is even remotely being looked at as scum, otherwise your looking like very opportunistic scum to me...

[Beanman]

EBWOP

Damn, you definitely can't say this is a slow game. Okay, I'll start with this quote and go on from there:

If kyle is town, there is a strong case against Adrien/MoB scumbuddy pair. If Mob flips scum, there is a strong case of Adrien/Mob scumbuddy pair. If MoB is lynched town, I see no loss there. If kyle flips mafia, well, we killed a mafia, but then, finding Kyle's partner will be extremely hard at this point. Hmmmm....

You've posted some well-crafted posts later on where I can agree with most of the points but this right here is where I disagree with you.

If we are to assume the worse case - that we mislynch today - I just believe that a kyle mislynch will be much more profitable to town than a Mob mislynch.
You say that if Mob flips town there's no loss there. I beg to differ, I think it's pretty much a completely wasted mislynch for town. Who would you go for the next day? Would you go back to kyle? And then who else? Your Adrien/Mob scum team is out of the question then.

Do you honestly believe in a kyle/Adrien scum team? Yeah, didn't think so.

Either kyle or Adrien & montgomery? Maybe. But I can see the Mob lynch as being annoyed town wanting to get rid of their most annoying player. I just don't see enough information to work with the next day if she flips town.
Additionally, I don't see Mob as much of a threat. It's not like she could lead town to a lynch on her own. And If she keeps on behaving scummy/anti-town on Day 2 we can still lynch her tomorrow.

On the other hand, if kyle flips town there's so much more info you can extract out of the wagon. You can look at yabba's posts when he started the wagon and how he handled the situation afterwards. You can ISO the hell out of Adrien, there's a lot of intriguing stuff. And I'm curious whether Adrien would really be pushing for a Mob lynch tomorrow. It is kind of strange how he emphasizes in like every post that Mob is #2 on his list. But for now he's not on my scumdar.
You can even investigate me seeing as how pushy I am towards a kyle lynch. And then there's how tanstalas, Tuxhedoh and montgomery have handled the kyle wagon differently so far.

With that being said, I'm keeping my vote on kyle. Just because other people have tried to clear his name/explain his behaviour directing town towards a Mob lynch doesn't make his posts less scummy in my opinion.

You seem to have all the answers figured out. Well once again I've caught you in a fallacy. As to your question, you thought wrong... Last game I was in, scum team was the IC and SE. They basically starting day 2, started building these really strong cases against each other. Day 3 one of them got lynched, but because they were targeting each other, no one thought, "they could be scum partners." And scum ended up winning. Smart players use these tactics, because people like you naively assume they just won't for some reason.

Am I saying Kyle and Adrien are scum buddies? No, as I have stated I do not know who scum is, it is however my goal to find out.

Why put off tommorrow what you can do today, and that's scumhunt. I can't wait to hear your case on kyle, because I bet I have a much more evidence on you, than you do on him... But I'm gonna let you present your case on kyle, before I present my case on you.

[Tuxhedoh]

There is no case on kyle anymore. He stopped active lurking along ass time ago, and is contributing his own ideas. His bandwagon is scummy as hell, as it's wasteing valuable scum hunting time.

unvote; vote Dekes

I want a damn good reason from you and the other BW's as to why kyle is even remotely being looked at as scum, otherwise your looking like very opportunistic scum to me...

Bean, I'm not so sure that Kyle

has

stopped active lurking, (we do know that he won't be here until after 3) or is contributing his own ideas. I'm curious as to how his BW is scummy? I see the pile on, and as I've stated I don't see any reason that he's not scum.

Are there other benefits to the town if we keep Kyle or MoB? They will probably continue to draw suspicion into Day 2, and have more opportunity to validate their role. Also, recognizing earlier comments that it will be difficult to find a lone scum through the rest of the game. We'd certainly have to start casting some votes and suspicion elsewhere though....
As my initial vote was on Dekes- I've also been compiling information to make my case against him, but kind of figured that I'd wait until Day 2 ....because I thought we were awful close to ending this day. I'm reconsidering whether it's worthwhile to keep my cards to myself, or go all-in and show my hand.

[Adrien C]

I'm intrigued at the bolded part.

I make a great case against MoB

, and throw out the possible scumpair of MoB and Adrien, and you're wondering why I'm not making a 3rd case? Do you think there's 3 scum in this game?

Also, MoB is the easiest target because she's scum. Usually works out that way.

Quote me this great case with original observations and I will help you lynch MoB right now.

[Tuxhedoh]

At the bottom of the forum next to the page list- it currently says 211 posts- Page 9 of 9 ( of course my post will increase that number) - but it differes from the current post number- at this time Adrien's post is #210 - it's the most recent. I'm confused. Does anyone else see this?

[yabbaguy]

(quickpost) Post 0 is first.

More later.

[yabbaguy]

Also @204: For f's sake, more accurately. But yeah.

I love saying that in real life.

[Beanman]

This was posted by yabba only 3!!!!!! days ago. First of all, that's barely long enough for someone to get poked to respond for not participating.

"Active lurking is defined as someone who adds posts to the thread, but not necessarily content, in other words, it's just filler. I contest these are cases since kyle posted just to make a pointless remark on a username and Makeorbreak is making random votes after content has been generated."

I am going to post just one of kyles many many posts since yabba first posted that, only a mere 3 RL days ago...

The problem is with that situation you brought up is your assuming that both me and MoB would be mislynches. Assuming that a lynch could be a mislynch and wondering which mislynch would be less worse is bad and anti-town. Vote on who's scum and nothing else.

This is proof that he has added content. I plan on using it in my case against Dekes. I literally just grabbed his last post too. He's not active lurking anymore. It's time to move on...

Bean, I'm not so sure that Kyle

has

stopped active lurking, (we do know that he won't be here until after 3) or is contributing his own ideas. I'm curious as to how his BW is scummy? I see the pile on, and as I've stated I don't see any reason that he's not scum.

Are there other benefits to the town if we keep Kyle or MoB? They will probably continue to draw suspicion into Day 2, and have more opportunity to validate their role. Also, recognizing earlier comments that it will be difficult to find a lone scum through the rest of the game. We'd certainly have to start casting some votes and suspicion elsewhere though....
As my initial vote was on Dekes- I've also been compiling information to make my case against him, but kind of figured that I'd wait until Day 2 ....because I thought we were awful close to ending this day. I'm reconsidering whether it's worthwhile to keep my cards to myself, or go all-in and show my hand.

I find this post to be extremely Anti-town. First, he says he "doesn't see any reason that he's not scum," (he refering to kyle) yet didn't hammer nor voted for kyle, Yet states he's suprised we're not on day 2.

Then he goes on to say he has a case against Dekes, and is purposefully witholding that information. I see no reason in witholding information that could benefit town.

Either I'm paranoid as a motherf*cker or this post is damn shady as hell....

[Tuxhedoh]

Why put off tommorrow what you can do today, and that's scumhunt. I can't wait to hear your case on kyle, because I bet I have a much more evidence on you, than you do on him... But I'm gonna let you present your case on kyle, before I present my case on you.

Here I'm doing the same thing as you,

Bean, I'm not so sure that Kyle has stopped active lurking, (we do know that he won't be here until after 3) or is contributing his own ideas. I'm curious as to how his BW is scummy? I see the pile on, and as I've stated I don't see any reason that he's not scum.

only I'm not backpedaling like you here-

I see no reason in witholding information that could benefit town.

At this time I don't suspect you...and I'm certainly not trying to get you against me...just pointing out the facts.

Also, I didn't hammer, because he claimed VT, and as I've questioned before- how does it affect us as town to ML? I don't know, and asked questions stating as much. It really feels like your pushing for Kyle to be lynched while not being apart of the wagon. That feels odd to me. As far as Kyle's concerned though, you feel he's cleared his good name.

Regarding being surprised we're not on Day 2, we've still got town not voting.... I wanted to see if others had anything to add, if his flipping VT changed anyones mind, and it did. I've got to take that into consideration- the town as a whole benefits if we lynch the right person.

I'm a noob. I've said that. I'm playing the game taking queues from the more experienced folks, yourself included. It's all I've got, it was not intended to be scummy.

[Beanman]

@tuxhedoh-We are NOT doing the same thing. I'm waiting till Dekes' next post. Your waiting till day 2. Worlds of difference.

I have more of a newbtown vibe of you, but like MoB, I can't just give you the benefit of the doubt. So while I am leaning towards you being town, you being mafia is not out of the realm of possibilities...

As for him claiming( I thought I covered this, but I inadvertently did a WIFOM I can now see why your still confused). It affects us in this way and this way only as I see it. He claimed VT. He didn't claim a PR(power role). That means Mafia has one less person they know isn't a PR. Now this is all conjuncture, because there may not even be town PR's in play. But it does mean, they are not going to target him more than likely tonight. Him claiming *only* helped mafia, as they have one less person to target as being the doctor/cop. Another reason that BW is scummy as hell. I don't see any benefit in getting someone to claim, this early on D1... now we probably have to kill kyle because of it... even though I've got a really good gut town read on him right now... The other strategy(which might help us if kyle really is town), is to just complete believe he's town, at least for right now(unfortunately that's not likely to be the case). Then town isn't a leg up on us, as they won't kill kyle, but neither will we, because we believe kyle is town. That means we can continue discussion and try and find the 1 or 2 possible remaining mafia members.(which doesn't look likely as people seem too stuck on kyle for reasons unknown to me.) That's my 2 cents on his claim

@ everyone, If you guys are so sure kyle is mafia, I'll hammer, but first, I want to at least try and find the other mafia. Scum hunting is fun! XD

[Beanman]

Alright I've been up for like a while, like 20 something hours, so i need sleep. Im not even sure if i'm makeing any sense anymore lol. So might not post till again till tommorrow.

[Jackabomb]

Vote count 1.8
Makeorbreak-

Montgomery, kyle99;

Tanstalas-

;

Dekes-

Beanman;

kyle99-

Makeorbreak, Tanstalas, Dekes;

Beanman-

;

yabbaguy-

;

Montgomery-

;

Not voting-

yabbaguy, Tuxhedoh, Adrien C;

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch or no lynch.

Makeorbreak has not posted for a while. I will soon consider sending her a prod, as, by my time, she has not posted in 2 days. If any of you feel anyone else requires prodding, now is the time to let me know.

[Dekes]

The problem is with that situation you brought up is your assuming that both me and MoB would be mislynches. Assuming that a lynch could be a mislynch and wondering which mislynch would be less worse is bad and anti-town. Vote on who's scum and nothing else.

Dude, I don't even know if I should call this intentional misinterpretation on your part
Nowhere did I say that I think both of you are mislynches. I - very clearly - stated what would (or rather could) happen when one of you flips town. I don't KNOW if either one of you is one or the other because while we can debate/speculate/argue as long as we want but just like Beanman said a couple of posts ago we can only be certain after the hammer as fallen and the victim either has claimed afterwards or the flavor has been revealed. And to say wondering if a lynch is a mislynch is anti-town is total bull. Everybody should be wondering (and a lot of people have done so in this thread) what happens if your lynch doesn't flip scum. It makes you think twice whther to vote/hammer and it gives you a lot to work with the next day to determine what went wrong and who acted suspiciously.
And your second part is also wrong. I - again very clealry - stated that I'm not unvoting you because I think you're the better mislynch but rather because you haven't done anything to prove me your innocence.

I may try to give an ISO on kyle....but not right now. There's other things to address right now.

You seem to have all the answers figured out. Well once again I've caught you in a fallacy. As to your question, you thought wrong... Last game I was in, scum team was the IC and SE. They basically starting day 2, started building these really strong cases against each other. Day 3 one of them got lynched, but because they were targeting each other, no one thought, "they could be scum partners." And scum ended up winning. Smart players use these tactics, because people like you naively assume they just won't for some reason.

Am I saying Kyle and Adrien are scum buddies? No, as I have stated I do not know who scum is, it is however my goal to find out.

Why put off tommorrow what you can do today, and that's scumhunt. I can't wait to hear your case on kyle, because I bet I have a much more evidence on you, than you do on him... But I'm gonna let you present your case on kyle, before I present my case on you.

No, I do not think I have it all figured out. I try to be as successful in scumhunting just like you do. And I may and will be wrong (probably more often than not in my first game) at one time or the other . But what good would it do if I was always like "They maybe scum, maybe not", "This might have been rather suspicious", etc. I'm just posting what reflects my current opinions. I don't wanna say every other sentence "I can't guarantee it, but this is how I see it". After all this is a game based on opinions and you shouldn't say so all the time.
You're pretty quick when it comes to catching fallacies. Let me explain especially the part that you bolded. I can't guarantee it, but this is how I see it. If kyle flips scum I really believe Adrien is town. Yes, I'm aware that mafia's most powerful weapon is deceit. And I know, that bussing is one of the most common things for mafia to do. But if we apply this scenario here what do we have:
It starts off with #57 by yabba where he - in my opionion - gives a valid vote on kyle as a (somewhat) friendly reminder to start posting content. Then after the first Mob fiasco ensues you vote for kyle and then Adrien goes all out on kyle and never backs down especially after I put him at L-1. He could've done something like you did and point out the shrapnels of content kyle posted and unvote without looking too suspicious. But he practically begged people to hammer on kyle. And I really don't know if scum would be willing to sacrifice (after seven pages, no less) their partner when there's absolutely no need to. If they do end up as scum team, that was one hell of a gutsy move and I will tip my hat to Adrien (given they win this thing of course). But as of right now until no new information arises I stand by my point.

Oh yeah, and I don't like how you throw suspicion towards anybody on the kyle wagon. I do believe you're town at the moment and we're all here trying to scumhunt as best as we can. But you're acting like everybody on the kyle wagon is scummy and voting not out of valid reasons but rather only for the sake of there being a wagon while all the time kyle is super obvious town to you. I just don't see it yet. Like I said I try to present a case on kyle tomorrow (maybe even tonight, but don't count on it).

[Dekes]

EBWOP:
I wanted to add I believe there was no way Adrien could've known no one would hammer kyle with all the suspicion on kyle at that time.

[Dekes]

Sorry for the triple post.

I am going to post just one of kyles many many posts since yabba first posted that, only a mere 3 RL days ago...

The problem is with that situation you brought up is your assuming that both me and MoB would be mislynches. Assuming that a lynch could be a mislynch and wondering which mislynch would be less worse is bad and anti-town. Vote on who's scum and nothing else.

This is proof that he has added content. I plan on using it in my case against Dekes. I literally just grabbed his last post too. He's not active lurking anymore. It's time to move on...

I don't see this as proof as stated in my previous post but generally, yes, Kyle has started posting content. But what were his other options? Keep on active lurking? Full blown AtE? Give up? I'm pretty sure all of those things would've gotten him hammered very quickly. So he better damn well had to be starting to post some content. Does not clear him in my book. But more on that in my case.

[tanstalas]

@beanman - I don't know why you are so suspicious of the Kyle BW, you had him voted yourself at one point, I only voted for him when you retracted your vote as I wanted to keep pressure on him as I thought at the time he was the most likely person flipping scum (And I still do - but MoB's silence is starting to aggrevate me) I do not know if she is scum, but her playstyle is annoying to say the least. Is that a good reason to lynch someone?

As kyle said "Vote on who's scum and nothing else" - Best thing I think he has said all game.

Although now I am starting to wonder, if kyle flips scum, and you defending him so hard is that because you are his scum buddy? Or is this a WIFOM tactic so that we will think "He was defending him so hard - he possibly couldn't be scum because he knew kyle was most likely going down"

[kyle99]

Sorry for the triple post.

I am going to post just one of kyles many many posts since yabba first posted that, only a mere 3 RL days ago...

The problem is with that situation you brought up is your assuming that both me and MoB would be mislynches. Assuming that a lynch could be a mislynch and wondering which mislynch would be less worse is bad and anti-town. Vote on who's scum and nothing else.

This is proof that he has added content. I plan on using it in my case against Dekes. I literally just grabbed his last post too. He's not active lurking anymore. It's time to move on...

I don't see this as proof as stated in my previous post but generally, yes, Kyle has started posting content. But what were his other options? Keep on active lurking? Full blown AtE? Give up? I'm pretty sure all of those things would've gotten him hammered very quickly. So he better damn well had to be starting to post some content. Does not clear him in my book. But more on that in my case.

When was I active lurking? Show me evidence of this please, because I can't recall me ever active lurking.

[Dekes]

When was I active lurking? Show me evidence of this please, because I can't recall me ever active lurking.

Sure.

#32 - RVS vote, pretty standard

Discussion ensues, game is slowly drifting out of RVS.

#49 - "From now on, I am going to call you Tan." Thanks for the info.

Stuff happens, no longer RVS. Yabba calls you out (and votes) for active lurking. No sign from you.

#95 - Adrien C tells kyle to post more. Very next post:

#96 - "Oh shi-, poeple are getting suspicious of me, time to get active. But first I tell peolpe I simply forgot about this thread" Problem with this post is it is a nulltell because we can't prove whether you really did forgot about the game or not. It's an easy enough excuse but you might very well be telling the truth.

#97 - "Mh, let's see if I can find a bit of info that has been brought up by others but did go unnoticed and pass it off as my own." Then you went ahead and voted Mob based on pretty obvious fencesitting:

"Not really liking her play, but that could be just her taking stuff to personal.

VOTE: Makeorbreak"

Then again silence. People get even more suspicious and start piling votes on you until Mob puts you on L-1. Not thirty minutes later:

#118 - "Damn, L-1 already. Time to get active again. Let's see. Ah, great, I just attack Mob for voting me without any reason. Good thing she's playing very poorly and has already a couple of votes on her. Maybe I can drive town towards her lynch instead."

I admit, it gets better from there. But with the constant imminent danger of being hammered you had no other choice but to post more content. I know that you not posting for a while could just be you being busy IRL. You aren't supposed to be on all the time. No one seriously should be. But with all the timing of your posts it just seems to me that you can be on/active/needed when you need to be and you just chose not to be active when you didn't have to. Sorry, but that's how you come off to me.