Newbie 985 Game over

[Zachrulez]

You don't find that response worthy of voting him Parker?

[FakeGod]

UNVOTE

VOTE Kalofer

- You're very scummy my friend. I smell a rat!

FoS still on DavidParker

UNVOTE

Actually, 3 votes is enough.

FoS on Kalofer & DavidParker

He's very scummy, but 3 votes is enough? Last time I checked, it was five votes to lynch.

Wishy-washy. Scummy. Plus, you have been running under radar for awhile now.

I'm watching you.

[Kalofer]

Please let me know why I'm scummy before I lynched, I really don't see where I went wrong so much, hoe come at the start I wasn't scummy and now I suddenly am?

[Kalofer]

Why the aggression and hurry there Fake? Aren't we supposed to bide with our time? And you do know that if I'm at L-1 scum could easily hammer and end it all here and now.

Please let me know why I'm scummy before I get lynched, I really don't see where I went wrong so much, how come at the start I wasn't scummy and now I suddenly am?

[Zachrulez]

I took 195 and 198 as a scum claim, so lynching you now quickly isn't scummy.

[Zachrulez]

And you're at lynch -2

[FakeGod]

@Kalofer: umm....you do realize that my 201 was against tvellalott, right?

He seems to be agreeing with the wagon on you, but he's not willing to commit a vote, almost as if he wants the lynch to happen, but doesn't want to be blamed for it.

That's very scummy. I do not approve.

Plus, you're not near a lynch yet. Bunch of people (including myself) have been at L-2 before in this game.

[DavidParker]

haha, i was trying to force a scum claim (or a quasi-scum claim). He seemed to have not denied it or tried to defend himself (FINALLY) in #203.

195/198/202 all seem like him agreeing to being scum... I don't get it.. I want to believe his town (in fact in trying to force a scum claim, i actually believed he was town....) but his response was pure scummy. I'm convinced zach is scum, that's the only thing stopping me from voting Kalofer atm... (and him finally semi-denying being scum in 203)

I'm not ready for a hammer, and I know how games like this work, where a hammer could happen from town or scum because of the attrocious way kalofer has responded to pressure. So i'm going to keep my vote on sure-scum zach, as opposed to very-likely-scum kalofer.

[DavidParker]

And fakegod, i agree that often supporting a wagon but not putting a vote there is scummy, but with the "OMG THAT GUY IS SO SCUMMY" kind of wagon, a hammer could happen VERY QUICKLY, and you should be careful about putting them at L-1. that's why i haven't voted kalofer. (and because zach is definitely scum)

[Zachrulez]

Why exactly am I definitely scum?

[FakeGod]

And fakegod, i agree that often supporting a wagon but not putting a vote there is scummy, but with the "OMG THAT GUY IS SO SCUMMY" kind of wagon, a hammer could happen VERY QUICKLY, and you should be careful about putting them at L-1. that's why i haven't voted kalofer. (and because zach is definitely scum)

alright. No probs.

[Zachrulez]

And why do you want to believe Kalofer is town after he basically claimed scum? That doesn't make any sense. If someone's pretty much claimed scum (As he has done.) AND THEY AREN'T SCUMHUNTING AT ALL YOU LYNCH THEM. It's simple.

[FakeGod]

but David, then you'd be implying that zach_scum is bussing Kalofer_scum?

[DavidParker]

yeah, if i was zach-scum, i'd do the same, after kalofer's actions.

and zach, have u not been reading any of my posts?

I have this 8 ball.

It is magical.

[Zachrulez]

yeah, if i was zach-scum, i'd do the same, after kalofer's actions.

and zach, have u not been reading any of my posts?

I have this 8 ball.

It is magical.

You're ignoring a very obvious possibility here.

[DavidParker]

And why do you want to believe Kalofer is town after he basically claimed scum? That doesn't make any sense. If someone's pretty much claimed scum (As he has done.) AND THEY AREN'T SCUMHUNTING AT ALL YOU LYNCH THEM. It's simple.

and, i'd still like an actual claim, and more day 1 discussion.

[FakeGod]

yeah, if i was zach-scum, i'd do the same, after kalofer's actions.

and zach, have u not been reading any of my posts?

I have this 8 ball.

It is magical.

You're ignoring a very obvious possibility here.

That his 8 ball's really not magical?

[DavidParker]

yeah, if i was zach-scum, i'd do the same, after kalofer's actions.

and zach, have u not been reading any of my posts?

I have this 8 ball.

It is magical.

You're ignoring a very obvious possibility here.

my 8 ball was right about fakegod and shall be right about you!

[Zachrulez]

yeah, if i was zach-scum, i'd do the same, after kalofer's actions.

and zach, have u not been reading any of my posts?

I have this 8 ball.

It is magical.

You're ignoring a very obvious possibility here.

That his 8 ball's really not magical?

That, and the possibility that I am town and legitimately find Kalofer scummy.

As it is, I can practically guarantee that at least one of the two of them is scum. I just can't see any possibility where neither is after the interactions we've seen.

[Kalofer]

I DID NOT CLAIM TO BE SCUM, honestly I have no idea where you got that from. 195 I posted because I really didn't know where I went wrong and 198 was a joke, I really don't see why you took it so seriously and about me not scumhunting, yeah then what where those large block posts at the start, if that wasn't scumhunting then I don't know what is. I REALLY REALLY REALLY need to know why when someone asks someone where he went wrong they are immediately proclaimed to be scum. Defending oneself in this game is unbelievably hard. If you're gonna lynch me, just get it over with I hate to be toyed with and to help people who want to kill me on my expense.

[Kalofer]

I AM TOWN. HEY EVERYONE I AM TOWN. I JUST MADE A TOWN CLAIM, IF YOU BELIEVED MY SCUM CLAIM (which I don't see how it is a scum claim) BELIEVE ME NOW WHEN I SAY I'M TOWN!!!!

[Zachrulez]

I DID NOT CLAIM TO BE SCUM, honestly I have no idea where you got that from. 195 I posted because I really didn't know where I went wrong and 198 was a joke, I really don't see why you took it so seriously and about me not scumhunting, yeah then what where those large block posts at the start, if that wasn't scumhunting then I don't know what is. I REALLY REALLY REALLY need to know why when someone asks someone where he went wrong they are immediately proclaimed to be scum. Defending oneself in this game is unbelievably hard. If you're gonna lynch me, just get it over with I hate to be toyed with and to help people who want to kill me on my expense.

Who is scum then?

You haven't taken a single firm stance on who you think is scum.

[Zachrulez]

Further in response to 219. Defending yourself is about all you've been doing lately Kalofer.

[DavidParker]

kalofer is this ur first game of mafia, have u played any on other sites, what experience do u have with the game?

[Zachrulez]

Hey Parker, you still there?

If you could assign a percentage to how likely you think it is that I'm scum, that would be great.