Mini 1014 - Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over

[Tazaro]

Vote: GhostWriter

We're hunting ghosts, and you are one. You think you're gonna hide from us, you lump of protoplasm. By the way, do you know Casper?

[Tazaro]

Unvote

Actually, he could BE Casper

[Tazaro]

jasonT1981

This is OMGUS. Sweet.

[Tazaro]

Oops:

Vote: jasonT1981

This is OMGUS. Sweet.

[Tazaro]

I be stirring the pot.

[Tazaro]

Ghostbusters and other people... who? The Scooby Doo gang? I'd vote to lynch someone who claims as Shaggy; that junky with the munchies can't solve jacks***.

[Tazaro]

xRECKONERx, looking forward to seeing you!

[Tazaro]

EBWOP: I mean, seeing your activity in D1, xRECKONERx; and GhostWriter, make me vote for you for an actual reason.

[Tazaro]

Unvote

Vote: BloodCovenent

Found a scummy action by a "town" member! I've heard of the "trying too hard" line from lips of mafioso, BC!

[Tazaro]

Seriously where is everyone else?

[Tazaro]

Vote:Starbuck

because we need to get as many people into this RVS as possible. I don't like Tazaro's constant OMGUS voting and unvotes, however.

Read my previous game, Starbuck. I consider myself a "dive-in" player. Another suitable term is "blitzkrieg." I didn't vote you; that gives me town points, right guys

[Tazaro]

Oops: You're Coach Travis. Or are you ?

[Tazaro]

I'm just an eager beaver who wants action, Coach Travis.

[Tazaro]

Okay

[Tazaro]

Ghostbusters and other people... who? The Scooby Doo gang? I'd vote to lynch someone who claims as Shaggy; that junky with the munchies can't solve jacks***.

Unless I missed something blindingly obivious, what do you mean other people..... no one had mentioned other people had they? Well, aside from you and the Casper crack

not sure I like this either

EBWOP: I mean, seeing your activity in D1, xRECKONERx; and GhostWriter, make me vote for you for an actual reason.

its kinda a give me a reason to vote you... feels weird to me. xRECx is usually pretty active from what I remember, we have played together a few times in the past.

Taz, one last question for you. Have you played much mafia before, offsite I mean? or even on an ALT account here on MS I see you are fairly new to MS itself only joining a few weeks ago. I would be interesting to know your level of experience in Mafia

1)In the post in which the mod wrote the first write-up (including Kylie's death), the mod made reference to other people besides the Ghostbusters who have had experience with the ghost thing.
Not bolded but I want to answer your statement: 2) It didn't mean xRECKONERx isn't active, I meant that I will want to see (i.e, I expect to enjoy) his activity because I think he's a interesting poster, I've seen him post in general discussion and elsewhere, and I thought of him specifically because I feel a bond with him: we share a characteristic in common...
3) I have only completed one game of mafia; it was on this site in Newbie 943; I was a replacement for that.

[Tazaro]

Then explain the "make me vote for you for an actual reason" bit that you directed towards me.

It was an adlib; I write by ear, and the EBWOP of the statement I made about xRECKONERx did not seem to be a full enough post. And I said a similar thing to a player called Uite in my Newbie 943 game; I told him to make a slip-up if he's scum because I tried to find scumminess about him but it wasn't happening at that point. So make a scum slip if you're scum, GhostWriter. You're a ghost, but finding scumminess about that wasn't happening at the point in time in which I made that post in which I voted for you.

[Tazaro]

Double post: And jason, targetting BOTH? I don't believe I've said a negative thing about xRECKONERx. I'll be fair, but he seems nice so far. And that's probably his personality that he brings no matter if he's scum or town.

[Tazaro]

One sentence was about looking forward to xReck's activity. The other was asking GhostWriter to give me a reason to vote for him. I'm bantering at this point in time about things; don't take it too seriously. I'm not going to base a vote on GhostWriter on the fact that his name includes "Ghost" and I will never find scumminess based on his name, neither when I voted nor now nor ever.

[Tazaro]

And this is me double posting. Read my previous post too, though.

Constant just seems like it comes from scum logic.

Like, "let me overblow what's really happening by using a word that will make people go OMG HE'S DOING IT CONSTANTLY"

I can't explain it well, but you should be able to see what I'm saying.

He, Coach Travis, perceives my game play as OMGUSing on jason and on BC. If it's possible that a town member doesn't like OMGUSing, xReck, then that dislike is not worthy of being a reason to non-randomly vote for Coach. I'm going to...

Unvote: BloodCovenent

It's about causing reactions right now. But my next vote will not be random; I'll get the RVS frivolity out of my system.
My game play right will tighten up once more people get here.

[Tazaro]

He, Coach Travis, perceives my game play as OMGUSing on jason and on BC.

If it's possible that a town member doesn't like OMGUSing, xReck, then that dislike is not worthy of being a reason to non-randomly vote for Coach.

It is OMGUS though... you even said in your vote on me...

It wasn't serious OMGUS; I thought genuine OMGUS would be a non-random vote and trying to rationalize that vote with specious arguments??
And did I unvote correctly or was a person's name not supposed to go after "Unvote'? If it wasn't supposed to, then...

Unvote

.

[Tazaro]

This IS OMGUS in the way you just laid out.

Vote: BloodCovenent

Found a scummy action by a "town" member! I've heard of the "trying too hard" line from lips of mafioso, BC!

[/quote]
But that thing about "trying too hard" is not a specious argument to cover up OMGUS; it's another adlibbed joke from me.
Serious =/= Start of day one.

[Tazaro]

Let me do that properly:

This IS OMGUS in the way you just laid out.

Vote: BloodCovenent

Found a scummy action by a "town" member! I've heard of the "trying too hard" line from lips of mafioso, BC!

But that thing about "trying too hard" is not a specious argument to cover up OMGUS; it's another adlibbed joke from me.
Serious =/= Start of day one.

[Tazaro]

Well, what do we talk about now?

[Tazaro]

Wagoning to get out of the RVS and showing up and just posting a vote without content. Scum don't make such an obvious play D1.
Mallow's town.

You were the only one to vote for Coach Travis before mallowgeno did, xReck. I don't see mallowgeno's vote as wagonish but as picking a person arbitrarily. We don't have town reads presently.

[Tazaro]

On the other hand, there's a wagon after mallow's vote: Scott's vote. Are you unwilling to believe that a town member might dislike wagons, Scott?

[Tazaro]

But if the people on the wagon are doing the forcing of reactions and slips, then they aren't being forced themselves. Safe for scum. Right, xRECK? Scott? Mallow (are you secretly the Stay Puft Man)? Anyone? Bueller??!

[Tazaro]

I've never been a fan of RVS bandwagons, because I don't like people getting put into danger when there's no real reasoning. I actually said the same thing in my last game and I was town, so I don't see how that could be interpreted as scummy.

Let's even the danger out... with wagons against the people who are on the biggest wagon

[Tazaro]

Yet to hear from:
VibeBox
Zang
Starbuck

[Tazaro]

Post, Zang. I C U browsing.

[Tazaro]

Well, I agree that RVS wagoning is good for the town, it starts discussion and gives townies their first reads on who might be town or scum.

RVS wagoning is beneficial IF we get reads from the wagon-ee AND the wagon-ERS. Wagoners should be responsible for telling what read they got from the wagonee as a result of the wagoning that had reaction-fishing as its stated purpose.

[Tazaro]

... or alleged purpose...

[Tazaro]

@MOD: seven votes lynches, not ten votes.

[Tazaro]

Bolded for orthodoxy:

TO MOD: seven votes lynches, not ten votes

[Tazaro]

Scott's a suspect; his vote for Coach Travis based on the reason that Coach dislikes RVS bandwagons is actually serious--seriously bogus--looks like a bogus reason to vote Coach Travis to me.

[Tazaro]

Mmm, no. Scott's town too. Let's keep trying.

You acquired this knowledge via meta?

[Tazaro]

Double Post: less than 30 minutes before I log out for the night; probably won't post until morning.

[Tazaro]

Do you like his vote that was based on someone's (Coach Travis) disagreeing with his stated bandwagon stage?

[Tazaro]

... STANCE not STAGE. And that's a good reason to quit strictly at 9:30 p.m., but I can avoid my reasons.

[Tazaro]

Zang's post seems like a homework assignment: just write something that suggests you are paying attention and the teacher will not take a second look at it.

[Tazaro]

Double post: @Coach Travis, acting the same in different games is a good strategy in case you are scum: just be a town with a slight scum tint, so you can keep that tint when you're scum. Did I just use " : just " in both my posts?

[Tazaro]

Has anybody in this game used meta to get a read on someone? I thought xReck did, but he said no.

[Tazaro]

Double post: How many game have you played, Coach Travis?

[Tazaro]

Double post: How many game have you played, Coach Travis?

Newbie 934 and Newbie 958. Coach Travis = an SE?

[Tazaro]

Newbie 934 and Newbie 958. Coach Travis = an SE?

Can an SE be a newb, BloodCovenent? I don't have two completed games, so I'm not an SE. Is "newb" a word to undermine Coach Travis's play, hmmm BloodCovenant?

[Tazaro]

Triple Post:

FoS: BloodCovenent

, voting for Coach Travis like a vulture and then bringing up the "newbie card." Did anybody else think he was playing the "newbie card"?

[Tazaro]

Me... playing the newbie card?

I'm no Vi or ABR, but

i'm certainly not a beginner

.

Smells like WIFOM. Love that smell in the morning.

[Tazaro]

Point of clarification, BloodCovenent, I wasn't talking about you playing YOURSELF as the newbie: the "he" I referred to in "Did anybody else think he was playing the 'newbie card'?" was Coach Travis, not you. I suspect you of playing the "look here, there's a player (Coach Travis) who's playing the newbie card" card. You told Coach Travis to refrain from pulling the newbie card. I didn't see anyone else considering Coach Travis a newb who's milking his status. But now we know he completed two games.

[Tazaro]

Maybe that's just how i interpreted it. It's the little subtle messages that some people don't see.

Still vulturish vote, BC, and still attacked Coach Travis's newbishness afterwards, and still

Fos: BloodCovenent

.

[Tazaro]

I want to ponder whether I can see BloodCovenent's doing that stuff as a townie. And why do YOU ask, Scott?

[Tazaro]

I did not believe my "reasoning" for voting BloodCovenent. Ad-lib. Believe it.

[Tazaro]

I did not believe my "reasoning" for voting BloodCovenent. Ad-lib. Believe it.

I'm not ad-libbing now. I said I would tighten up my game; I meant it. Get your head out of the RVS.

[Tazaro]

Triple post: Now that I've talked to jason, Zang! I see you browsing. Come in!

[Tazaro]

Tazaro wrote "...BC!" Exclamation mark means not serious. Not serious reason means random voting. My unvoting was because I've finished my random voting stage and wanted to get down to business. It's business time. Rehashing this RVS stuff = hash browns in the morning, jason.

[Tazaro]

Double post: Time to eat steak and potatoes in this evening time, jason. Take a bite out of someone who's seriously scummy so we can lynch them around twilight.

[Tazaro]

I've heard of the "trying too hard" line from lips of mafioso, BC!

This was the joke reasoning. He was also joking about "trying too hard"; it was all a joke. Voting for each other in RVS: not serious. At all.

[Tazaro]

I am prusuing who I think is scummy... both you, and BC right now. BC is just less active.

Well, THAT's convenient for him. Gets more safety from less work. And where's the activity of Starbuck? It's good that I see XScorpion browsing.

[Tazaro]

Oops: jason wrote that, not me.

[Tazaro]

I see U Zang.

[Tazaro]

I see U XScorpion. Browse and assimilate the info.

[Tazaro]

we share a characteristic in common...

1) What's that? Obvious buddying is obvious.

I told him to make a slip-up if he's scum because

I tried to find scumminess about him

but it wasn't happening at that point.

2) This is just horrible. You admit to trying to find things that make him scummy. Sounds to me like scum is trying to find someone to lynch, as opposed to town trying to get a read.
3) Taz starts trying to argue that his OMGUS wasn't serious. Excuses, excuses.

I see U XScorpion. Browse and assimilate the info.

4) Did I not promise content by the end of the day? Unlike your posts, this one is more than a few sentences.
5)

Vote: Tazaro

1) The characteristic is

sexual-relevant

. It's an interesting thing to know that you share in common with a poster. We have different brains (me and xRECKONERx) from others. I like to talk; I hope he does too. About, "sexual-relevant", did you read the Guys thread, XScorpion? xRECKONERx knows what thread I'm talking about. Not that I mean that sexuality affects how we have been talking to each other in this game. I asked him about "meta," and he said Nope. I still think he should suspect and everyone should expect Scott's voting Travis for disagreement. Coach travis's being voted for due to disagreeing with scott is a point I made and I believe it's legit as a point.
2) That very thing you quoted "if HE's scum" was me talking about trying my hand at finding Uite (he is the HE of "if HE's scum") doing scum things in Newbie 943. Uite was town, though. And so what if I say "Hey, Ghostwriter, my vote was a joke. Make it not a joke eventually!"
3) Not excuses. Truth. But it is interesting that you're going with this "Tazaro is making excuses (i.e, lies)" train of thought if you're scum, Scorpion.
4) I said assimilate the info, not post. I saw your post about the end of the day. You could have still posted earlier than by the end of the day, and you did. I'm eager to read other's posts. Especially with the Too Serious Jason and the back and forth with him that is him taking stuff too seriously.
5) Top suspect, Tazaro. I'm flattered? Maybe I should earn more pro-town points in your eyes, oh watchful scorpion. I'll be teacher's pet. Yeah, right. What do I have to do, vote a townsperson and push for their lynch? I hope you're not scum, scorp, because if jason is still going persue the "get Tazaro for his jokes" then you can tag team me. I can fight you arr arr arr!

[Tazaro]

Oops: the first "2, 3, and 4" are Scorpion's words. The second group of 1-5 are my response.

[Tazaro]

...and the vote is Scorp's words as well

[Tazaro]

I've heard of the "trying too hard" line from lips of mafioso, BC!

This was the joke reasoning. He was also joking about "trying too hard"; it was all a joke. Voting for each other in RVS: not serious. At all.

I am sorry if you misinterpreted me. I wasn't joking.

So you weren't joking in your post for "trying too hard" to get a TOWNIE lynched? You can't know that GhostWriter is a townie (a mafia member knows alright). And you said DIE SCUM. That's what made me think is was a joke about me being scum that you wanted to kill. You actually think I was scum from my comment about GhostWriter? Huh? Lynch all Liars. BC, a person worthy of my vote has been found.
My post quoted scorp's vote on me, but messed up the quoting, I did not vote for myself so to make it clear to mod ...

Unvote

Scum, scum, scum...

VOTE: BloodCovenent

[Tazaro]

@Taz:
Irrelevant sexuality is irrelevant. I still see buddying.
I don't like your continuing use of "if you're scum," and you are using it a lot. WIFOM is not pro-town.
By the way, any reason you aren't voting someone?

Well, sexuality was the characteristic in common. Not us both being mafia which you were implying. What posts look like I'm buddying? Saying I want to hear from him?, talking to him saying I suspect Scott? I'm less certain you're scum than BC is, scorpion. That's why I voted for that liar in my previous post. Doesn't seem honest to me. I wasn't lieing about what I've said about xReckx seeming nice. He does, and jason seems irritating, and you seem to maybe be thinking about the tactic of setting up Tazaro/xReckx as boogeymen, Scorpion. I don't know about you, Scorp. Or else you're a townie who's wrong and perceives me as a good mafia suspect.

[Tazaro]

@Taz - read the fucking thread.

What have I said that's contradicted by something in the thread? Anyone of these guys can be liars, including you.

[Tazaro]

we share a characteristic in common...

What's that? Obvious buddying is obvious.

Buddying implies we are a scum pair. And "the characteristic in common" would be a statement of mine that secretely refers to our being mafia. Did you think that the answer to "What's that" could be we are both scum?
Coach Travis's "constant" thing is understandable given what I was doing. Are you going to say I agree with xRECK on that? I think xRECK was wrong, and all votes on Coach Travis are wrong because he's not suspicous. We have meta and can look at him, but I don't suspect him.

[Tazaro]

I can't tell whether you actually believe what you're saying or are lieing, Scorp. But I saw scum pair in "What's that? Obvious buddying obvious." I can see that "what's that" was a question and not a sarcastic insinuation of a evil characteristic. I answered the question, and I like xRECK, damn it.

[Tazaro]

Buddying implies we are a scum pair.

No. Scum can buddy town too. I guess you just haven't seen it before?

Well, then do you theorize that I'm town and xReck is the scum who's buddying. Otherwise, you are saying that we can be the pair. I suggest you think carefully about other pairs. And the one you suggested, GhostWriter/xxxx, that's not explained by you. Is it because GhostWriter's been absent, what about Starbuck?

[Tazaro]

Sorry about the sexuality talk. Anybody else besides Coach and me see BloodCovenent as a lieing scum?

[Tazaro]

BC said his claim of my "trying too be townie" in RVS was a SERIOUS claim. BloodCovenent should be hanged up.

[Tazaro]

Triple post: actually the claim was I was trying too hard to find scummy actions done by a townie. And BC assumed GhostWriter is a townie back in RVS?

[Tazaro]

Wow, my other games give me some major prospects for posting. Yes, xRECK, it was an explosion, and you weren't there. Chocolate lava volcano and cinnamon ash.

[Tazaro]

Zang's post seems like a homework assignment: just write something that suggests you are paying attention and the teacher will not take a second look at it.

How?

the Tazaro wagon came back recently when Jason said it was scummy to constantly FoS someone without voting. Which I completely agree with.

FoS: Tazaro

a)I kinda wanted you to say more than comment about RVS bandwagons--that could have been a post that a person would make if indeed one wanted to say something but was busy and could just comment on one thing to look like you're contributing, as if it's an assignment to just do, which is understandable: I found out you're modding another game and as such it's not a tell of your alignment.
b)I voted for BloodCovenent after a posting he made that set the alarm bells off real violently; my FoS's were about the stuff that wasn't as culminatingly scummy as that posting.
c) Don't do that FoSing constantly or I'll expect you to vote for me[sarcasm]
I'm actually enjoying this game. It's going to be fascinating to see how we progress.
c)

[Tazaro]

b)I voted for BloodCovenent after a posting he made that set the alarm bells off real violently; my FoS's were about the stuff that wasn't as culminatingly scummy as that posting.

After it was pointed out that your frequent FoSs were scummy.

I can't help it if BC makes a bold faced lie in a post after a second person (I think Scott) criticizes my FoSes. Tag teaming can happen, man.

[Tazaro]

Double post: About the bold faced lie, for your reference, Zang or anyone else, I posted my comments about it in post 150. See for yourself if BloodCovenent's comment about my "trying too hard" to get a townie lynched was a joke or not when he wrote that comment in RVS.

[Tazaro]

EBWOP: I mean, seeing your activity in D1, xRECKONERx; and GhostWriter, make me vote for you for an actual reason.

Unvote;
Vote: Tazaro

you're trying to hard to find scummy actions by a member of the town. total scum-tell. DIE SCUM.

I should have thought that this wasn't a joke? What's up with the "DIE SCUM" line that you wrote --now you're saying you were serious about already finding someone you think is scum? He didn't understand that "GhostWriter, make me vote for you for an actual reason" was a joke, which I made after I posted my joke reason about voting due to GhostWriter's being a ghost and then being flippant some more with another joke about unvoting for GhostWriter due to his maybe being Casper? What's wrong with then saying something like: "...and next time, you can actually give me an actual reason to vote for you..." Come on, learn what jokes are.

[Tazaro]

Double post: BloodCovenent, my post about GhostWriter involved knowing what a joke is, and why shouldn't I think you were just ACTING as if you didn't know what a joke was, BloodCovenent? And what did you mean, BloodCovenent, by telling me to "read the f***ing thread"? Do you mean as opposed to reading stuff from the RVS stage? I'm talking about that stuff because you're the one who made a non-random vote in the RVS stage that now you can retroactively say was serious. Very fishy. Hate that smell in the morning.
OTHER PEOPLE, weigh in on this, but of course that means scum could swoop in on this, too. I'm keeping an eye on what you guys say. It's so darn agitating what BloodCovenent has done.

[Tazaro]

Maybe the characteristic of "trying too hard to get someone lynched" was a heuristic you were using to gauge scumminess, BloodCovenent? Were you going by memories of people who were acting the same way as I did and turned out to be scum? I'm, believe it or not, reasonable and I see that you repeat of "overanalyzing" is genuine; I've been called an overanalyzer.

UNVOTE

[Tazaro]

I suggested Ghostwriter as scum because he acted suspiciously early in the game, then left.

Aye, I'll admit I left, had no choice, but acting suspiciously for telling someone not to tunnel (which isn't a very townish thing to do, as it limits your view and can cause you to miss other scumslips in your crusade against one person in a a game of many) based on a non-game fact that my name, which I've been using long before I even stumbled onto this site, has "Ghost" in it? Especially someone playing the way Taz has been? I think not.

Taz, I do not know quite what to think of you. You are, indeed, doing quite a bit of scummy things, but there are so many, particularly twisting words, that it makes you just look like a really bad townie. Like, really bad. Anything someone says that doesn't agree with you, it seems, gets twisted into some kind of attack against you that you always try to make look like only scum would do.

I have to work on my townie persona. My mafia persona was more fitting for my present style of weird gameplay.

[Tazaro]

Double post: I loved not having a reason to read everything all the times I was mafia.

[Tazaro]

All the times I was town, I ran at the mouth. When I'm bored I say random stuff about myself. I've been called irrelevant, but when contribution wanes, I wane.

[Tazaro]

Damn it, everyone thinks I'm a bad player. Shouldn't have done chatting in those last three posts of mine, and I guess I'll have motivation to possibly set up a RQS as opposed to RVS in day one of my next game.

[Tazaro]

That's an unlikely role if I simply play badly in all of my games, though.

[Tazaro]

I hope the scum don't lurk their way to victory...

[Tazaro]

@everyone: The case on Coach Travis, do people see stuff about him I don't?

[Tazaro]

My meta would not give that prediction because I have not started a game from the beginning before; this is my first game that I've started from the beginning. In all my other games, I had been serving as a replacement.
@CT, but yeah what was so predictable about my cooling off?

[Tazaro]

xRECKONERx, answer my question about Scott's vote. What do you say about his vote, please answer the following:

Do you like his vote that was based on someone's (Coach Travis) disagreeing with his stated bandwagon stage?

[Tazaro]

Scott seems to vote for Coach Travis because Coach Travis disagrees with Scott's stance on RVS bandwagoning.
So do you feel comfortable about Scott's vote?