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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:24 pm

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The human kerrigan bothers me as well so I see Ythan's point, but there aren't any other females in SC that control Zerg as far as I know so is he scum or not is debatable, filing away the possibility for good and evil variations of characters to exist in this game. I also didn't realize we wouldn't get alignment reveals, makes it difficult to know if you're even winning....
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:26 pm

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Obviously it is a Sarah Kerrigan, Queen of Blades ability. The only issue is whether or not that character is the same as Sarah Kerrigan the Ghost.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:27 pm

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Is the lynch threshold still reduced?
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:42 pm

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Ythan wrote:Obviously it is a Sarah Kerrigan, Queen of Blades ability. The only issue is whether or not that character is the same as Sarah Kerrigan the Ghost.
That's fair, but I think there are enough hot female characters that duplicates wouldn't have to exist.
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:53 pm

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I don't think it's a stretch because if the scum are THAT obvious, there's no point to alignment-blind flips whatsoever.

The alternative (much more remote IMO) possibility as I see it is that there is both a town human Kerrigan (millar) and a scum Infested Kerrigan. But you clearly don't believe this, because you've said that you think millar is scum.

You appear to think both that millar was scum and that he wasn't the ZergRush character. So...do you think that humanKerrigan and zergKerrigan are scumfriends? Do you think zergKerrigan is the SK? To me, those are more out-there theories than that more ambiguous flips make the alignment blindness meaningful.

If there's some third way I'm not getting, please educate me.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:00 pm

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I think your argument is misbegotten. The presence of a single very scummy character would not ruin the purpose of a partial-reveal game.
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:15 pm

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OK, that's true, but that doesn't really answer or even address my questions.

Is your flavor discussion of human/infested Kerrigan relevant to this game itself in some way, or are you just complaining about the flavor implementation? Assuming the former, please clarify your position. I am having to doublethink hardcore to understand it. The scenarios I listed in my prior post are examples of the bizarre results of said doublethink.
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:20 pm

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I'm not complaining. I called it a single concern, which it remains.
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:33 pm

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I don't think this is something worth getting hung up over.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:41 pm

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I would still like to know about the lynch threshold.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:46 pm

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I am asking him a very simple question (well, a series of related simple questions), and he is being evasive. His answer itself probably would not have been interesting; the fact that he is deflecting is interesting.

My supposition is that we're working with a normal lynch threshold, but we're unlikely to get confirmation until RC's, ah, situation is resolved.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:49 pm

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I'm not being the least bit evasive, stop obviously trying to paint that shit on me plz thx.
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:54 pm

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1. I ask you how your belief in millar being scum squares with her not being the source of the Zerg Rush; you respond by pointing out that 1 scum could have a scummy role without breaking the game, which has nothing to do with the question asked.
2. In the process of trying to infer an answer from your non-response, I ask whether your comment about the human/infested Kerrigan bit is game-relevant (in which case I'm confused) or a complaint about the game setup (in which case you are being sort of misleading and wasting my life with your posts, but at least I can understand your perspective); you incredibly lamely argue that it was a "concern" rather than a "complaint," which has nothing to do with anything and is again a huge evasion.

Both of these events happened on this page (680 and 682).
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:58 pm

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Well considering that you're building this entire one-sided conversation you're pretending to have with me off of shit I never said there really isn't any relevance for me in taking part. That's the case now just as it was earlier on the page, and it's going to remain so into the future.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:00 pm

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Ythan wrote:Well considering that you're building this entire one-sided conversation you're pretending to have with me off of shit I never said there really isn't any relevance for me in taking part. That's the case now just as it was earlier on the page, and it's going to remain so into the future.
No, I'm with Ice on this one. You're being evasive.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:15 pm

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I'm with me on this one. I'm not. In order to be evasive I'd have to be evading someone. So close! Now stop.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:06 am

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Muffin wrote:
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I have a plan. If there is a watcher or tracker role out there you should follow me when I use my ability check on someone. I will use it on Ythan tonight
Did this happen?
my ability got stolen last night. I only have 1 use of it left, and I couldn't use it last night, because i was roleblocked when it was stolen. If Ythan was visited last night, it wasn't by me, so it was likely a doctor. I am up in the air on whether or not the ghost Kerrigan was scum or not. I really wouldn't put the same character in a game twice. Could Samus Aran have been scum? I'm not that familiar with metroidal alignment.

FoS on Ythan until you explain to us how you know you were visited
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:13 am

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vote: MoI

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he had been afk all game lol jk :)
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:18 am

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I was roleblocked last night. And if the roleblocker was town, they made a pretty bad move in my opinion.

I am going to say Millar is scum, but don't know for sure. You never know.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:51 am

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Shotty to the Body wrote:The human kerrigan bothers me as well so I see Ythan's point, but there aren't any other females in SC that control Zerg as far as I know so is he scum or not is debatable, filing away the possibility for good and evil variations of characters to exist in this game. I also didn't realize we wouldn't get alignment reveals, makes it difficult to know if you're even winning....
Shotty are you going to be more active today? Over 28 pages you've only made a grand total of 12 posts.
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:53 am

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Kdub and bv310 aren't much more active with 14 and 15 posts respectively.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:02 am

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'Sup, game I neglected for the last game day? I apologize for that, btw. I overloaded myself in games.

Anyway, now that I'm dead in a couple of those, I've caught up to this one somewhat.

From a flavour standpoint, I can see Kerrigan as maybe-scum, maybe-Miller. Samus and Cortana, definitely not. It's interesting that our D1 Lynch and one of the N2 kills have the same flavour to them. I'm not sure what this means, but it's odd.

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Mine really isn't. Seeing all of the pictures so far is mildly amusing.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:29 am

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bv310 wrote:From a flavour standpoint, I can see Kerrigan as maybe-scum, maybe-Miller. Samus and Cortana, definitely not. It's interesting that our D1 Lynch and one of the N2 kills have the same flavour to them. I'm not sure what this means, but it's odd.
The same flavour? What do you mean?
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:07 am

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On Page 1, both millar and SpyreX are listed as "Destroyed", while Neto is listed as "Shot"
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:23 am

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So I just found out about needing to step up for a few days (haven't been on-site much lately due to work). Looking over things now to see if there's anything I need to address. Stand by...
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