Mini 1000: The Brave and the Beautiful (Game Over)

[Muffin]

I dunno, scum maybe?

[Robocopter87]

How do you know Muffin is scum. How? What is somewhere here that says, " Saintkerrigan is scum" hm? What makes you so certain Millar was scum?

[Iecerint]

The only way Kerrigan could possibly be town is. Well, it would pretty much be impossible.

For one, millar would've dropped some hints indicating that my assumption that the Zerg Rush was scum-ergenic was incorrect. That never happened IIRC.

I really thought Furco was Kerriscum, but he clearly isn't, so I think he's more likely to be town via similarly potentially fallacious outguessing (e.g. double RTS goddess scumteam is lame).

The reason it's somewhat ambiguous (e.g. she flipped humanKerrigan rather than zergKerrigan) is that the set-up wants us to speculate about alignment, and that's a pointless mechanic if the scum all flip like YE SCUM GODDESS, REJOICE, YE TOWNE.

[Iecerint]

Some possibilities where millar was town off the top of my head:

1. Scum have a Janitor role that works on lynches and made millar flip Kerrigan.
2. There are 2 Kerrigans in this game. The scum one (Furco, because KerriganKerriganTanya is like a total wall-banger) is zerg-version Kerrigan.

But these are totally out-there.

I want Robo to explain why he's iffy on millar at this point. Cuz I mean.

[Iecerint]

Regarding SX's role --

We can't know for sure, but my guess is that he could determine how many scum were on the wagon or something similar. This really isn't very interesting at this point, because scum could have targeted him to avoid a massclear as easily as anything else, especially given the wagon was a millar/furco/shotty 3-way in there. But let me know if you see a crumb or something to the contrary.

@ muffin -- I don't know what to make of the "destroyed" flavor being reused. The first one is clearly the lynch flavor so....

[Iecerint]

Oh, another point --

We should've done this yesterday, but if anyone has an a priori scummy rolename, they should probably nameclaim (only!) it now. You will function as a Miller when you flip otherwise.

Give everyone a chance to weigh against the above in case I'm forgetting something before you do so, though.

[Ythan]

Robo you dumbass he fakeclaimed to avoid being outed as Kerrigan, a character clearly connected to an anti-town ability. Ice, it is established in the rules that this is a partial reveal game. It's not a janitor type role. Also, Furc dies today. Lastly, I got a PM last night that indicates that someone visited me. Nothing seems to have happened so I assume it was some sort of investigation/watch/track ability. REALLY lastly, mod why did you have to use the sluttiest pictures you could find? Seriously everyone needs to see the picture in my role PM when we're done.

[Muffin]

REALLY lastly, mod why did you have to use the sluttiest pictures you could find? Seriously everyone needs to see the picture in my role PM when we're done.

I find the slutty pictures to be hilarious

[Ythan]

A single concern, why is the picture Terran (pre-Zerg) Kerrigan?

[Iecerint]

Yeah, my point is that those are both very low-probability events. The janitorly role would have to be like "makes X flip as you." Unlikely to be here.

Millar claimed something?

I wanted to totally mutilate Furco until I saw millar's flip. Having seen it, I don't want to do as much.

[Iecerint]

The reason it's somewhat ambiguous (e.g. she flipped humanKerrigan rather than zergKerrigan) is that the set-up wants us to speculate about alignment, and that's a pointless mechanic if the scum all flip like YE SCUM GODDESS, REJOICE, YE TOWNE.

This was my speculation at that last bit.

[Ythan]

Unsatisfied, personally.

[Muffin]

I wanted to totally mutilate Furco until I saw millar's flip. Having seen it, I don't want to do as much.

Yep. The more I read it, the less it looks like a bus to me. Right now I'm leaning towards Furco being more of a noob town who gets upset far too easily.

[Muffin]

(and by "it", I of course mean Furcolow's hammer)

[Muffin]

unvote
confirm vote: netopalis

I have a plan. If there is a watcher or tracker role out there you should follow me when I use my ability check on someone. I will use it on Ythan tonight

Did this happen?

[ReaperCharlie]

I will be V/LA for the next few days; my wife is going into labor.

If you need a mod, and SaintKerrigan isn't around, then y'all can SUCK IT!

[Ythan]

Considering that I wasn't mafia killed no I don't think so.

[Iecerint]

Mr. Y, are you unsatisfied with the interpretation of Furco's hammer (i.e. a non-scum one), or with scumKerrigan flipping humanKerrigan due to this:

Character name will be revealed, but you are left to speculate at their alignment, and the true powers they might have possessed.

Assuming the latter -- could you clarify your position? Was millar scum, or not?

[Ythan]

I think he was scum. Scummy player, lied about his role. I also wish I had known this wasn't going to be a full reveal game before I joined, but at least it's historic. I'm unsatisfied because the character shown in the flip is not one who should have Zerg-related abilities.

[Muffin]

I will be V/LA for the next few days; my wife is going into labor.

If you need a mod, and SaintKerrigan isn't around, then y'all can SUCK IT!

Best of luck to you and your wife!

[Ythan]

Good luck! Be careful around doctors though they're NK bait.

[Iecerint]

OK. Then you're just upset with the perceived game setup.

[Ythan]

I think your claim, that the use of a human Kerrigan to sow confusion is part of the setup, is a stretch.

[Muffin]

I think your claim, that the use of a human Kerrigan to sow confusion is part of the setup, is a stretch.

I think it's valid. Showing a zergified Kerrigan would be pretty obvious that she is evil, and that would sort of defeat the point of a partial-reveal game. Also it wouldn't really fit with the "beautiful" part of the theme.

[Ythan]

Tell SK that.