Mini 983: It Got Worse (GAME OVER)

[Ythan]

Why did you just now get interested in that?

[SaintKerrigan]

Because this is the first time since a couple days ago or so that Amished has opted to come in and talk about stuff.

[Ythan]

So you waited? This is a forum, you know. He can read back when he gets on.

[SaintKerrigan]

I already asked him why he hadn't revealed his night action yet. To ask it again before he posted would be needless repetition. As far as massclaim stuff goes, this is the first time he's mentioned it.

[LlamaFluff]

@ Llama: Could you detail more what makes you think I'm scummy?

And seriously, guys, would you

please

stop ignoring my case against Ythan and tell me why you don't like it? It's the least you can do before you kill me.

Exasperated sigh.

I will do all of this eventually. Seriously. My word on this is better then most peoples as I have the daykill and will not be able to just delay it forever. If my estimation of how busy I am is wrong, it might be as early as tomorrow. If not, thursday/friday/saturday is more likely.

[Ythan]

It's a day kill, not an old school execution requiring half a majority vote?

[SaintKerrigan]

Hullo...

My role is that I might have some power, but I don't know what. I get three guesses and if I guess correctly, I can use my role. My first guess was Note Leaver, which is the role I would've made it (based on the Letter of Prester John. Sykedoc informed that was wrong and told me he had given my hint.

Based on said hint, I sent in my second guess of Dayvigilante/King several days ago.

I haven't heard anything from sykedoc since.

Doesn't the underlined sound a lot like what Llama just became? Could be a coincidence, but it

is

a bastard mod game, so I figured I'd point it out.

[Ythan]

Now put it in a form that is meaningful to the players of the game.

[SaintKerrigan]

I'm speculating on the nature of SPS/Ooba's role. I figured I might as well point the similarity between SPS's guess and Llama's new role, because why not?

[Ythan]

Why not indeed.

[RedCoyote]

Welp its definitely not a scum-scum slapfight (not that that was likely).

Very true. I have certain concerns with SK that I don't have with Ythan that, I think, take precedence over Ythan's selective voting, argumentative patterns, or whatever else SK has had to say about him as of yet.

Amished, I tried to make it pretty clear in my last post. I would say Spyrex. If there was scum that put a finger on the scale while debating Nikanor's alignment, it was definitely his doing.

[ooba]

Hoi. I cheated .. Wanted to see people's reactions to my predictions (which were lacking) - I still see Amished, RC, Llama, SK are here. No idea who Ythan, SpyreX replaced (would like to keep it that way before I complete my read). - Anyway the fact that all three of my scum reads cannot be scum together will at least reduce confirmation bias for me.

Ahh, good. Ooba; can you elaborate on your role at all?

Was going to ask if there was a massclaim or something when I saw the below ..

@ Ooba: Have you or SPS made your third guess at your role yet? If so, what were the results?

Not yet. I am leaning towards guessing "Vengeful Townie" since that would make a lot of sense - aka if my role is not revealed until I flip it would be pretty bastardly (admitted it is a b-mod game) for me to be a doc\cop or something - cause the universe of roles is huge. A vengeful of course would still be useful after my flip.

[SpyreX]

Who I replaced?

I've been here since the beginning mon capitan.

Amished, I tried to make it pretty clear in my last post. I would say Spyrex. If there was scum that put a finger on the scale while debating Nikanor's alignment, it was definitely his doing.

I... you... what?

What?

[Ythan]

Has anyone posting not cast an election vote?

[RedCoyote]

I... you... what?

If there was scum on the Nikanor wagon, it was you. Perhaps worried that the wagon would lose steam, you tipped the scale by throwing your vote down at a critical point and made it more difficult for us to back away from a Nikanor lynch.

[SaintKerrigan]

All right, Amished, there shouldn't be any reason for you to not claim your night action now. Everyone else who has claimed having an action has said what they did last night. It's your turn now.

@ RC: Not that this is going to matter since I'm going to die once Llama's elected, but can you elaborate a bit more on your concerns with me? Additionally, do you think that a player not voting for someone he considers sure-fire scum is scummy? Why or why not?

I agree with you that Spyrex is most likely scum.

[Ythan]

A tip. Don't do anything that obvscum asks you to do unless town seconds it.

[SaintKerrigan]

A tip. Don't do anything that obvscum asks you to do unless town seconds it.

[Ythan]

In order to be obvscum someone other than tunneling scum has to think so.

[SaintKerrigan]

A question: who's your next pick for a lynch once I'm dead, Ythan? Wouldn't it be more productive of you to start building up a lynch wagon for them instead of continually raping a dead man?

[Ythan]

A plan is underway. You don't need to worry about that, you won't be here anymore.

[LlamaFluff]

Will try and start putting something up on SK now, even though I think enough of the case can be boiled down to "targeted N1 by UK".

How else does two kills happen when the SK is dead? I have been running it over in my mind, and even if someone is lying about their role, it would require MO to have been a delayed SK or something like that. Way too many convienent things would have needed to occur. Plus SKs claim is one of the easier ones to hide behind (albeit none are really proveable), can just target someone and if gets tracked could even fall back on "I guess action A was a kill".

[SpyreX]

I... you... what?

If there was scum on the Nikanor wagon, it was you. Perhaps worried that the wagon would lose steam, you tipped the scale by throwing your vote down at a critical point and made it more difficult for us to back away from a Nikanor lynch.

So are you going all the way live and saying I'm scum with SK?

Because thats about the only way that could even possibly make sense - and I didn't "push the scales" as much as call out your ardent defense of Nik in lurker mode

in conjunction

with the throwaway vote on SK under the guise of "this one is easier now" versus even pretending to look for scum.

I did make a mistake though. I probably should have done you first.

Which I'd throw into the ring for bullets over Baghdad if someone would man up and finish this election.

[ooba]

Has anyone posting not cast an election vote?

Whats this? What do I have to do?

If you're discussing a Spy-SK pairing, then you should notice the
- SK calling a neutral read on Spy and someone else calling em out for it (Amished I think)
- Spy voting SK with great gusto

[LlamaFluff]

Has anyone posting not cast an election vote?

Whats this? What do I have to do?

Vote me and I get to use my govenor powers starting today. Vote someone else and I am not allowed to use them untill tomorrow, assuming I am alive tomorrow.