Welcome Shattered Viewpoint, Espionage, and nhammen. First thing's first (yeah, I should've done this in my first post)
UNVOTE
Alright. I've read the thread, sat and thought, read some ISOs, thought some more, drove home, and thought again. Now I'm going to give you my thoughts about every person in the game in a WoT. Yes, this'll be long. I apologize for that, but I need to make up for lost time (I promise all of my posts won't be this lengthy) And I hope to get something worthwhile out of it. (NB: Since the forum no longer shows gender, I'm going to refer to everyone in the feminine. No offense meant, and please feel free to correct me).
AClockworkMelon:
Active lurked in the beginning, but now seems to be posting rather consistently. Her posts are still short though; few of them have more than 3-4 lines of original text. Content-wise, her reasoning for voting Chihuahua bugs me. Her phrasing in the post heavily implies that she agrees with Minii's logic, but later said you weren't mimicking her reason verbatim. Her FOS of Equinox is weird too; you
were
active lurking, and she just called you out on it. However, these seem to me like minor nitpicks. The active lurking seems to have more or less ended (although I would like to see a higher content to post ratio) and I like her case against Tasky.
Verdict: Leaning Town
Chevre (replaces AWA):
I basically have nothing to go on here. AWA provided literally no game content, and Chevre has really only had one post of logic. As to that one post, the difference between aggressive and indecisive voting that ACM expressed makes sense to me (although I think she might've phrased it better), but your other two points seem solid. Really though, I need more data. Could we have more from Chevre please?
Verdict: None (need more data)
chihuahua0:
(NB: this is chihuahua0, not nhammen (since nhammen hasn't had a chance to do anything yet (besides, I want to talk about chihuahua0))) Oh boy. Here we go. There are all sorts of reasons to suspect Chi: the votes with no basis in any sort of logic, the nonsensical probabilities, her scumhunting methods, the supposed "relationship" between Tasky and ACM (which I don't see, and I don't see the benefit in pointing out at this stage), and the refusal to vote followed by a vote
in her very next post
(not to mention the hammer thing, the "this question is a test" thing, etc.) I don't think anybody here would question that she is suspicious. Rather, the question is whether she is simply being a newb, or is scum (or both).
The truly interesting thing about Chi is the fact that the game seems to have warped itself around her presence. An increasingly large part of the conversation is concerned with the Chi case and defenses/defenders of Chi. There are no neutral opinions of Chi, and many increasingly negative ones. As for myself, to use the increasingly common language, I've passed my threshold. If Chihuahua was still in the game, my vote would likely fall there. However, I'm willing to give nhammen a chance.
Verdict: Strongly Leaning Mafia
Equinox:
Logical and diverse in her suspicions. I like the reasoning for her votes, even when I disagree, and I especially like your unvote of ACM. You seemed to be admitting that your case no longer held water, and rather then force a case onto her, you jumped to what you thought was a better target.
Verdict: Leaning Town
Lemon:
(Not Espionage; see above) In all the talk about chihuahua0 being a newbie, I actually think we've seen much more newb town play from Lemon. Her instinct to distrust her town reads (and invoking the "Too Town" theory), her reliance on the wiki, her defense of Chihuahua at the expense of scumhunting, and her refusal to place a vote all scream "newb town" to me. She probably sees Chihuahua as in the same boat as her, and so is defending her for that reason. Actually, one war going on inside my head is how much of the logic I'm using to argue Lemon is newb town can be applied to Chihuahua (and vice-versa). I'll probably write up another post on this topic, but for now I'll say that it seems Chihuahua is more looking to vote with popular trends, while Lemon is just floundering a bit.
Verdict: Leaning Town
MagnaofIllusion:
Very focused on Chihuahua and Lemon, although not, I think, unfairly. I disagree with her hardline opinion of newbie play, but I'm willing to chalk that up to differing philosophies and playstyles. And I obviously disagree with her read of Lemon. But I like her method and I'm certainly listening with regards to Chihuahua. I have no major complaints here.
Verdict: Leaning Town
nopointinactingup:
She talks about focusing too much on Chi and says we should focus a bit more on other players...and then spends 90% of her posts focusing on Chi or the case against Chi. I don't know here. I'm seeing more talk then real hunting, and the switch from
nopointinactingup wrote:The reason why I am defending Chi right now is I think there are better place to find scums. Policy lynch is always my last resort.
to voting Chihuahua in the same post has my eyebrows raised. I'd like to see more from her, but for now,
Verdict: Slightly Leaning Mafia
Quoi (replaces RetroAudio):
RetroAudio I found a tad scummy, if only because her posts never really seemed to accomplish anything. Quoi's case seems solid though. Overall though, I'd like to see more from her. RA seemed to be almost active lurking at times (in terms of content certainly), and Quoi hasn't helped this image (besides the one case post, hasn't provided much content). Also, interpreting Chihuahua's replacing out as a scumtell is a level of metagaming I'm not sure I can handle right now. Could you elaborate?
Verdict: Null Read
Youngminii:
(again, not Shattered Viewpoint yet) Basically admits to letting others post most of the content early on, and seems to set herself up for not posting a lot of content. Voted Chihuahua, but never seemed to have a lot of reason why. If, as has been posited, the Chi wagon is scum motivated, she would be my pick (although she's not really motivating the wagon so much as hanging around it). Of course, if Chi was scum, then this is an early not-serious bussing attempt? I need to look at this interplay more, and we need more content here (c'mon SV) but for now,
Verdict: Slightly Leaning Mafia
Tasky:
Wow. By far the most prolific poster. I have to agree with the faction that doesn't like your votes early on. In particular I didn't read your second vote as a random vote at all; you seemed to be jumping on what you thought was an inconsistency. If you meant it to be random, it certainly doesn't read that way. You also "went back to random vote" without fully explaining what was happening at the time. And what exactly is her opinion of Chihuahua? She's not voting for her, yet she's amazed that people aren't voting for her. And although it's been done to death, I don't see what the exercise could've accomplished.
Verdict: Leaning Mafia
Untrod Tripod:
I liked the long discussion of the Chi newb town defense, and the subsequent questions. And I kind of liked your RA case (sparse though it was). It seems that most of your posts are kinda fluffy though. I'd like to see more.
Verdict: Slightly Leaning Town
Whew, that took longer than I thought. If you want clarification on any of these opinions (more in-depth etc.) I'd be glad to give it.
You can just call me Redtail. If I could, I'd change my name to that anyway.
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