scotmany12 wrote:Mafia played bad. Pretty bad. Though when the majority of the group gets replaced out its tough. Probably should have killed anon instead of fonz. Really disliked the setup, I wouldn't qualify this as a normal game.
Plus, the mod who originally flaked (thanks for taking over farside) refused to tell the mafia who our scum buddies were for quite a while.
Only until we all asked in the quicktopic did he finally give us a list.
That was terrible modding, tbh. This game also could have been broken by D1 massclaim, which is usually the sign of modfail. I don't have a problem with a big scumgroup with a significant problem (having to protect the murderers). Too many confirmable town definitely was a problem. Of course, there were the scum doctors. Scum shot themselves in the foot completely by not fakeclaiming (though, I suppose Zoraster probably had reason to believe his V/LA would protect him better than a claim).
Might have helped, but as you can see from the QT, I'd have been going after Don all guns blazing the next morning had I lived (I re-read overnight and the one big thing that came up was that Quag's D1 Richard vote was scummy as hell), and then gone for you when he flipped scum.
Amished, you played really good, but that "tell" on paltry/cove you used isn't a tell at all. You have got lucky the other times you used it, but that isn't a scumtell.
I think you're being obstinate here. It clearly makes sense. There are explanations for the behaviour other than scum-ness, and you can't expect it to go on working every time, because no tell is that good, but it's worth going with.
Scot wrote:Also, Anon, while I was legit scummy, and knew you were going to kill me, that "he's scum because he asked for my reasoning," is not a legit reason to think someone is scum.
Yeah, I agree here.
RichardGHP wrote:Woot, town win, yay.
Now is as good a time as any to tell you that my D5 report was faked.
Yeah, and everyone suspected as such, because it seemed clear only the designated murderers could kill. That was a truly horrible, horrible thing to do, and was more likely to get you lynched than almost anything else you could have done. What was the actual case? You forgot to submit one?
As for Scot's argument about Zoraster, I couldn't disagree more. Town has every right to express frustration at a very scummy player, and the leading candidate for lynching, claiming a V/LA which happens to run to the day after the deadline, even if it is entirely true. We didn't 'attack him' for being V/LA at all. Pissant just means annoying. Zoraster's attempt to strawman the wagon on him didn't help his cause.