Mini 1000: The Brave and the Beautiful (Game Over)

[millar13]

HOLD UP WHAT?

[SpyreX]

Pretty sure its awesome and clear yo

[millar13]

not really no

[SpyreX]

If those people are the lynch wagon and I do some awesome which I have planned we're in a good spot.
IF we lynch scum and the above happens and I do some awesome we all but win right there.

[millar13]

so basically....you want to dediced who votes?
and u don't do anything
And we just listen too you, for no reason other than too trust you?

[SpyreX]

Pretty much, yep.

[millar13]

i still dont actually understand though; i am so confused. You have given no reason, just a list

Maybe u can do an idoit's guide of what u mean

[Netopalis]

Well, before we decide on that, who do you think we should lynch, Spyre?

[Robocopter87]

Whoa...
No clue whats Spyre is getting at...

So with that being said, Lets do what he says!
^^The above is serious, might as well just do what he's asking.

[bv310]

Welp, I'm all for giving anybody a shot at a plan, so

Unvote

for now.

[SpyreX]

I'm not sure on what the right call is out of the remainder. That is coming soon.

[millar13]

so two people don't understand what is going on....and one person is straight away buddying up to SpyreX for no other reason than having a plan...really?

FOS: bv

[millar13]

I'm not sure on what the right call is out of the remainder. That is coming soon.

Remainder?

You have given a reason for anybody yet.

[SpyreX]

I never said I was going to give REASONS for that list.

You'll get a reason for whom I would prefer to lynch but we'll see. Frankly, there's a whole lot of jibber jabber in the early pages.

[millar13]

if you don't give reason, then you just a senior playing that looks like he is orchestrating.
and without reason that comes off as very scummy.

unvote

its like you believe you have a given right
or
because your already scum you have an answer, but you haven't quite worked out a way to get there.
I dont trust you

Vote: SpyreX

[Robocopter87]

Hey Spyre,

Can you be a little more clear on this plan of yours?

[SpyreX]

If I have to to make it happen I will. I'd rather it not get to that point. Right now.

[Robocopter87]

So what are you doing in the meantime? Drinking tea?

[Shotty to the Body]

V/LA till tuesday

[MagnaofIllusion]

1: I'm telling you my alignment and role, I don't know what else to do other than that. Believe me, or not, I am good.

That’s not the question I asked. I asked how you power proved your alignment. Thanks for filling your response with uselessness.

2. I saw this in another game... mafia in mendo I think... and it really helped the town. I'm just throwing out ideas to help with this.

Can you explained how it will help the Town? I see the following scenario.

1. You scan Ythan with your non-alignment proven power.
2. If we have a Watcher or Tracker they confirm you did so.
3. You tell us what power Ythan has.
4. If Ythan dies we have to decide if you are the one that killed him.
5. If Ythan doesn’t die we see whether he states you are lying about your ‘scan’
6. ?????
7. Profit.

Seriously how does this help town? It will not tell us if you are Scum or Town since an Ability cop could easily be a power from either side. It potentially outs a Watcher or Tracker for no real benefit. It will not confirm anything but perhaps what Ythan’s power is. And knowing that will not for tell us anything concrete about his alignment.

Whoa...
No clue whats Spyre is getting at...

So with that being said, Lets do what he says!
^^The above is serious, might as well just do what he's asking.

Hey Spyre,

Can you be a little more clear on this plan of yours?

So at 408 you say “Weee, what the heck let’s do this” and then come back at 417 with “Tell me more about this plan of yours”

Did millar’s accusations of buddying (specifically at bv310 but certainly applicable to you) scare you a bit?

@Sprex

– Given I know nothing about your plan but your voter list I’m certainly willing to listen. You think you can find a player that all 5 players would agree to lynch?

[Robocopter87]

@ MoI
Well, I agreed to his plan. Then asked what his plan was excatly. I was curious. And still am. Apparently he won't tell me, yet.

Also, You do know that I will be probably be the NK right? I already claimed a pretty powerful ability and am basically confirmed, making me a big target. Well, I will be the NK if there is only one NK.

[millar13]

I don't trust this guy at all; well

Unvote

its not SpyreX its more the people that seem to be so willing to buddy up.
The great irony is that he is effectively; be a wagon roller himself but making you think he is instigating without saying anything
or letting you know what he is doing.

I tell people I plan on posting a case on STTB tomorrow, and I am called out for by scummy.
He doesn't want to tell you anything, and yet some of you are so willing to do.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Also, You do know that I will be probably be the NK right? I already claimed a pretty powerful ability and am basically confirmed, making me a big target. Well, I will be the NK if there is only one NK.

Really I'd highly doubt you are the Nightkill right now. I don't see your hunting as out of the ordinary and you certainly played badly enough up till the Zerg Rush that despite you being a very likely confirmed innocent there are people who still consider you as potential scum.

And your power isn't what I would call being overwhelmingly powerful if it is what you stated. It makes you (and potentially someone else) a marginally more difficult lynch. It isn't inherently dangerous to scum from the standpoint of Night actions.

Also - as asked before please answer Ythan's question in regards to why Chun Li would have your claimed powers from a flavor perspective.

[millar13]

@ MoI
Well, I agreed to his plan. Then asked what his plan was excatly. I was curious. And still am. Apparently he won't tell me, yet.

Also, You do know that I will be probably be the NK right? I already claimed a pretty powerful ability and am basically confirmed, making me a big target. Well, I will be the NK if there is only one NK.

Night Kill? What make you think your going to be the target for sure;
if people like Neto aren't scum; my bet would be on him

[Iecerint]

Had a chance to catch up. Notes follow. First bit are from memory from where I stopped:

1. I agree with most of Muffin's points about millar. A lot of it is sort of a stretch, but that's just because he did all the posts for the sake of completion. Flipside is that I sometimes go for that angle as scum, so.

2. Agree with Neto's evaluation of said post.

3. Robo's "corrective" post is shifty in that a lot of his "corrections" are like "that wasn't that much of a big deal" when millar intentionally did a complete PBPA. And the complete PBPA was warranted in that part of the argument against millar was vacuity.

4. Millar's "well I am pro-town so I am clearly listing myself as scum" bit is so endearingly cute that I can't really think that it would come from scum. It may indicate daytalk if he is scum. If millar flips scum, looking at the players who appeared to assume daytalk around the Zerg Rush bit might be informative.

Now it's purely chronological:

5. Furcolow's blatant pro-opting of my Neto-S2B scumteam postulate is O.o, especially since he cites something that's not different from the prior point and argues that it negates it.

6. Ythan's posts continue to seem really peripheral. I don't get the impression that he really cares how people answer his questions. My only experience with him is a scum iso I read through, though, and he made a point to wallpost "strategy" in that game. So...I am meta-poor with him. I'm at bottom of page 13.

7. Kdub/Neto 331.332 interaction reads weird to me. Kdub's first two paragraphs are really equivocal. Asking Neto about S2B is good, though. Neto's response is different from what I remembered his case on S2B being ("To change the subject, S2B is in this game! And suspicious!"), and he apologizes for having made it.

8. Furcolow's suggestion that Muffin was connected to the Zerg Rush ability doesn't make sense to me. What is the basis for that belief? It looks like he's just bullying him.

9. I predict that SX will say mean things about Furcolow's subsequent <3meta<3 moments. I loved him a little there, though.

10. I think Robo has misunderstood Furcolow's point near the bottom of page 14. Furcolow isn't really framing said argument very aggressively, so I can't blame him for misundertanding.

11, Lol @ Furco wanting to claim as the Cop.

12. Millar's suggestion that blowing things up is in any way related to what was clearly AN ACTION PERFORMED BY SARAH KERRIGAN, SCUM GODDESS, MADE MORE OBVIOUS BY THE FACT THAT SAINTKERRIGAN IS OUR CO-MOD, is VERY DUMB. I am sort of O.O

13. Furcolow saying "buddy" is a GOD HE IS JUST TRYING TO BE SCUMMY moment. I again don't understand.

14. MoI is my boyfriend for using meta nullification on a player he thinks is scummy. MoI is probably town if Furcolow is scum. The chronology of his post is a a little weird; I'd like it if he could explain it to me. Also, why didn't you yell at me for keeping my vote on Ythan when I said Millar was top scum? I ask because you attack S2B for as much.

15. Want to know why Millar brought up Jack in the following post. Are you saying that Jack is a bad player?

16. Wow I am totally in love with MoI this game.

17. Millar's post about not wanting to stand out because he plays like a survivor (and everyone does, regardless of whether they admit it, or something) is extremely scummy (as it's a justification for apparently deliberately poor play), but also sounds honest. He is extremely frustrating.

18. Millar's subsequent claim that he has "sacrificed himself" is similarly bizarre. What the hell is he talking about? In whose universe was he Jesus on the cross? But I still get a weirdly honest vibe.

19. Also, Neto is more well-behaved lately. Or, more accurately, I think several of his posts are scummy, but in the same way that I thought his posts were really scummy in Nouns mafia, where I mislynched him D1. So yeah. This is bottom of page 15.

20. Millar is getting total Woobiefication from me on page 16.

21. Ythan again appears not to really care what's going on. Some "I hope you're lynched" rhetoric is all I get.

22. Furco kept tabs on who was online during the Zerg Rush? Is that based on looking at Members Currently Online at said time, or via

msutils

the search function?

23. Do not like Robo's push on Furco. He's still probably town because of ZR, though.

24. Hey, random thought secondary to Robo's Furco push. I was reflecting on the plausibility of Tanya being a fakeclaim. But. Sarah Kerrigan is a witch from an RTS. Tanya appears to be a sort of Chaotic Neutral-tier witch from an RTS. So...that aspect does fit.

25. I love MoI so so so so so so much.

26. I don't understand Furco's explanation for removing bv and me from the "maybe Sarah Kerrigan" list. Also, please clarify the point of the list to me if I misunderstand it. Also, keep in mind that there was probably a lag between "sent in action" and "RC posted action."

27. SX's start post is intriguing. I wonder why he for all intents and purposes left Furco and Millar off the lynch wagon, though.

28. SX's claim that the first pages are "jibber jabber" when HELLO ALERT THERE WAS A FAILED SUB-THRESHOLD LYNCH ON A PLAYER ALERT INFORMATION SOURCE INFORMATION SOURCE. But SX somehow always takes this attitude toward everything I find interesting about a game and wins it, presuming that he's town. Also, I don't think this kind of approach is historically scumSX AFAIK, particularly given lack of a replace-in. If he took longer to post in than might have been expected, Daytalk could make up the difference, but it's a long-shot.

So, I cautiously trust SX, but I'd like it if he could give me another nugget or so.