Mini 1000: The Brave and the Beautiful (Game Over)

[Netopalis]

Well, I won't lie that I get frustrated when I get lynched, but it's more because I know that the town is taking the wrong direction or I'm losing as Mafia. I actually take NKs as a bit of a compliment at times, since it means that the scumteam was scared enough of me to kill me off. At least, that's what I keep telling myself. It helps me sleep at night.

Not the point, though. Survival is presumably not within your win condition, if you're a townsperson.

[millar13]

no it isn't....but being who i am
"if you haven't heard of me you have now"
i like to at least make it to Day 2...DAy 3 at best in a smaller numbered game.

And because you never know who is on what side...u have to act as a survivor. This is me talking theory now; and should be done post-game or mafia discussions.

[Netopalis]

No, it should be done now, because it tells us a lot more about your motivations.

If this is your goal, why state it?

[millar13]

Because I'm honest when I play this game lol....generally from past experience; mafia don't waste night kills on me because they know that the town will turn againgst me instead. But im an active player and that what happens to active players....

[Furcolow]

they don't have to waste them on me either, because i don't get lynched as scum, and i

always

get lynched as town

[Netopalis]

And neither of you have considered changing and/or improving your play?

[Kdub]

Furcolow's play has been almost as crazy as millar's, but I'm leaning toward believing his claim. It's at least provable and is a useful town role. And if we're not going to believe a D1 investigative role claim, what are we going to believe anyway? Besides, I really am disliking the players on the Furcolow wagon at the moment (millar, Ythan, Robo) for reasons stated earlier.

Still would like to hear from bv, I know he's posted in other games today.

I took a look at Shotty's posts again, and I kinda see what Neto was saying about him trying to throw fuel on the fire, but I didn't interpret it that way immediately. If we knew for certain that Robo was town, then maybe I would suspect him. Don't really like his vote on Neto though.

[Furcolow]

And neither of you have considered changing and/or improving your play?

believe it or not, my play

is

improving

[ReaperCharlie]

The Brave and the Beautiful - Vote Count 1.8

Furcolow [3] - millar13, Ythan, Robocopter87
Netopalis [2] - Shotty to the Body, Furcolow
millar13 [2] - Muffin, MagnaofIllusion
Shotty to the Body [1] - Netopalis
Robocopter87 [1] - bv310
Ythan [1] - Iecerint
Muffin [1] - SpyreX

Not Voting [1] - Kdub

Accounting for damage from the Zergling Rush, it is now 5 to lynch.

The deadline is July 22 at 5:30pm PST.

[Ythan]

Ythan:
You just said my case is weak with no reason why it is weak, how do you want me to shore it up? I think my initial reason to suspect millar was a pretty clear point, what is there to clear up about it?

I think I remember saying it lacks substance. Twice.

Some OMGUS

ARE

town. Are you DENYING that? If so, I completely disagree. I know a guy I play with on another website that ALWAYS does that when he is town, and I'm the same way.

Oh look I found today's lynch.

if you want to lynch our detective on day 1 go for it. lord knows i've done that before.

AtE ugh. Why did you make this useless post right after your claim post?

knowledgeable millar , surprising.
I have another ability, but I'd like to keep that a secret, as it doesn't really affect anyone. (no, it isn't a treestump)

Please tell me you're dead. I haven't caught up to the last post yet and I'm hoping you've been lynched already.

yes i do know that lol....i have been here longer than you.
But Neto? Don't tell me you would rather be in the game on D4, than in D1.
Everyone is selfish in this game (but i have sacrificed myself) but i am erratic.

I don't like or get the point of this. Plus it's anti-town.

[Furcolow]

ythan, if you had been around when that zerg rush thing happened, i bet you would have hammered. muffin, millar, and robocopter were the ones who were on at that time.

[Ythan]

Meaning?

[Furcolow]

meaning you are somebody's scumbuddy, buddy, and it sure as hell ain't mine.

[Ythan]

Wait are you OMGUSing me? Shouldn't you say that I'm buddies with one of the people you've been hopping onto with no explanation?

[Robocopter87]

More votes on Furcolow, I don't care what he says, hes just flailing now.

If you really want me to provide a big case, I'll ISO him and analyze whats hes done for you.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Robo

– Please share your thoughts on millar.

I'm not going to make MAJOR CASES on everyone on D1...im not an idiot (there is a survivor aspect of this game; that everyone denies and very few actually sacrafice)

False argument .. no-one asked you to make a case on everyone – just the player you said you were “going after”. Given your play is so atrociously bad why should Town keep you alive? You are adding no scum-hunting, you aren’t even bothering to pay attention to who is actually playing the game and are making crap arguments. At this point I really don’t care if I don’t see your case on Shotty because quite frankly your play so far tells me it will be worthless.

Furcolow's play has been almost as crazy as millar's, but I'm leaning toward believing his claim. It's at least provable and is a useful town role. And if we're not going to believe a D1 investigative role claim, what are we going to believe anyway?

I’m going to ask you what I’ve asked Furc – why do you assume that Furc’s ability is Town based?

In regards to my Shotty case, my point is that Shotty didn't say much at all to support it. I think that his vote is more scummy for that reason, although Furcolow and Millar are close second and third.

You think that Shotty’s reasons presented when voting were worse than Furc’s or millar’s?

Guilty people are paranoid, innocents have nothing to fear.

Unvote vote robo

this game is getting on my nerves
i attribute it to robocopter, who always manages to get on my nerves
i am wanting a more fun game
##vote robocopter87

Just caught up Vote: Robo

semes quite scummy from what i have gathered

All three of the votes are pretty bad but Shotty at least advanced something that somewhat resembles an actual game reason. Furc’s reasoning is personal dislike and millar at voting time said nothing at all.

ythan, if you had been around when that zerg rush thing happened, i bet you would have hammered. muffin, millar, and robocopter were the ones who were on at that time.

Pointless speculation about what Ythan would or wouldn’t have done is not scum-hunting. Your conclusion is invalid.

they don't have to waste them on me either, because i don't get lynched as scum, and i always get lynched as town

Please provide links of completed games where you were not lynched as scum. If you can’t this is an invalid argument.

ATTENTION FURCOLOW –

I’m tired of you ignoring points specifically directed at you.

If you don’t answer these questions in your next post you have won my vote

.

1. How does confirmation that you have a non-alignment based Cop scan indicate you are not scum?
2. How does you plan to be watched / tracked, even if it is properly executed, prove you aren’t scum?
3. Why when discussing who was around for the Zerg attack do you specifically exclude bv310 and Iec from your list? Both posted within 20 minutes of Reaper’s Zerg posting.

[Robocopter87]

@Robo – Please share your thoughts on millar.

I thought I made it quite clear that I didn't think he was scum with my chainsaw defense.

[millar13]

?whats was the chainsaw defense lol...i've got so confused lol with this game and another game lol

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Robo – Please share your thoughts on millar.

I thought I made it quite clear that I didn't think he was scum with my chainsaw defense.

You see his play and don't think in anyway it resembles scummy play?

[Robocopter87]

I know, we are both in another game to.

This one with Muffins post of LIES!!!!

@MoI
I see his play and see his normal play.

[Furcolow]

"1. How does confirmation that you have a non-alignment based Cop scan indicate you are not scum?
2. How does you plan to be watched / tracked, even if it is properly executed, prove you aren’t scum?
3. Why when discussing who was around for the Zerg attack do you specifically exclude bv310 and Iec from your list? Both posted within 20 minutes of Reaper’s Zerg posting."

1: I'm telling you my alignment and role, I don't know what else to do other than that. Believe me, or not, I am good.
2. I saw this in another game... mafia in mendo I think... and it really helped the town. I'm just throwing out ideas to help with this.
3. I didn't notice bv310/iecerint being online during that time, as i looked more before it happened on the same page and perhaps on the one before a little. i just noticed those 3 people. hell, just because they posted, doesn't mean it was any of those 3.

[Furcolow]

@Robo – Please share your thoughts on millar.

I thought I made it quite clear that I didn't think he was scum with my chainsaw defense.

You see his play and don't think in anyway it resembles scummy play?

does it have to be a mutual chainsaw defense to guess alignments based upon one flipping, or is that still not that good? I know it wouldn't be exact, but say robocopter is scum, and is defending millar like this. Millar is likely mafia then, right?

[Furcolow]

if that would work, could we lynch robo to see millar's alignment?

[Furcolow]

that doesn't make sense. i don't like this chainsaw thing.

[SpyreX]

Whats up all.

Ok, I've done some reading round one and I have a masterstroke plan of awesome.

However, it requires a few things:

1.) Trust.
2.) Some brotection tonight.
3.) A VERY SPECIFIC set of people willing to follow orders for today to a tee.

Anywho, under the assumation this is going to happen I'm proposing the following:

The following people, and only these people, are going to be the lynch wagon for today:

(Assuming 5 for lynch)
MagnaofIllusion
Bv310
Kdub
Ythan
Robocopter

(Assuming 7)
+
millar13
furcolow

Yes, I know that means I'm not on the list.

No, I'm not planning on expanding TOO much more on what I'm up to right now.

However:

If my guesses are right we're in a good spot.
If the lynch is on scum we're in an awesome spot.

If my little game is right AND we lynch scum we will win this game. Period.