Mini 983: It Got Worse (GAME OVER)

[Nikanor]

I can't really talk about why I can't talk about it

Tyler Durdin

I'm going to ignore the replace-claim-thing because I doubt it's true. If it were true, sykedoc would've had a replacement lined up and we wouldn't have had to wait three years for RayFrost to be replaced.
syke

did

say that he lied to some people though, so I can't really say it's Ythan who is lying.

[Ythan]

It doesn't have anything to do with Fight Club, sadly. And if you're doubting my claim because you think the mod would have planned better then, really?

[LlamaFluff]

I will round out claims in the meantime, and as Ythan guessed, I am my avatar, Kovu, Emo Lion.

Paraphrasing flavor, being that I am emo I spend all my time being depressed so have not learned to be useful. I do know that everyone else is useful in at least one way. I am called "loner vanilla" but have heard it refered to as cursed vanilla in the past.

Basically it means that no one is a Vanilla Townie, im the closest there is. I was hoping that at least one scum would either have gotten a questionable role, or just taken the easy way out and claimed vanilla allowing me to catch them.

Can point to crumbs later if people want me to.

[Ythan]

Do you know role names or just that everyone has powers?

[Nikanor]

And if you're doubting my claim because you think the mod would have planned better then, really?

Oh wait it's sykedoc.

You could always see what happens if you'd like

Crumbs would be awesome Llama.

[Ythan]

Tbh my role is kind of awesome, I don't know why he thought it would be the hardest to play. I get a freebie with a fresh perspective if I die and I get to be the goddamn Batman.

[LlamaFluff]

Do you know role names or just that everyone has powers?

I know that everyone has some ability, either active or passive.

Will post crumbs tomorrow, I am going to sleep now. They arent going anywhere.

[Ythan]

So how about avatar softclaims.

[StrangerCoug]

Mod: Please note sig.

Noted.

[UncertainKitten]

So UK, does Maria know that you are looking for her?

I am not privy to this information! She damn well SHOULD given all the hints I dropped, but whether she knows as a function of her role PM, if she were to exist, I do not know.

[Nikanor]

If you think that she should based on your hints, why did you want to claim last?
Also, you don't know if something good or bad will happen if you find that person, right?

[LlamaFluff]

I did not hint at my role name. Saw no point to since flavor appeared as forced as it was.

Response: 5
Any Comment: Im guessing super swingy however

In response to "How balanced is the game?". I knew there were a lot of roles, so I guessed moderately balanced. Also knowing that everyone has something going for them is why I said the game would be swingy. Ideal actions from town could likely have won it fast, and horrible actions result in shooting ourselves in the foot.

I would've made you "God on Sunday," the "resting" god, aka a vanilla townie.

heh

I took the time to laugh at this since I know it was a lie. I mentioned that blue text has lied to a player at least once later.

Oddest part is the only thing im certain is a lie that has been said in that text is something blue has said.

Can we stop all going "lol role info" already and get back to scumhunting? Will get recaught up tomorrow.

Me getting frustrated with all the claims of role information, since there are a whole lot of them I was afraid that some information may be bad and only be realized as such post massclaim.

Role information this game has the potential to be amazingly complicated and hard to piece together without what is almost a mass claim.

Again.

Also this game might not be that bastardly, this is game IS very swingy. My role basically screams that fact.

Another hint that there are a lot of roles in this game making it swingy.

I think my thoughts around massclaim are self-explanitory.

[UncertainKitten]

@Nika: Wasn't sure if they'd get my hints or not. I wasn't holding much hope anyway for her claiming, but it was worth a shot.

I know exactly what happens if I find her. We become neighbors (or masons, it's not specified she's town). I again wrote the original claim post with the intent of not playing my entire hand to Maria.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: And decided not to post it til later, so it was kinda an evolving thought process.

[SaintKerrigan]

@ RedCoyote: You still haven't FoSed me. Please do so in your next post.

Besides the fact that Ythan is scum, lynching him now is a good play for town, since a slot that needs to be lynched/killed twice to die is not a good thing to have in the later stages of the game unless it's 100% confirmed town. (Which it isn't.)

Something feels off about Spyrex's claim. Particularly the part where he says he jailed a person who he only mentioned

once

yesterday, and it was while chastising another player for voting him at that. So there's nothing that indicates why Spyrex jailed SPS. It also happens to be very convenient that SPS does not currently have an ability that could be used last night, and was the only player to have claimed as such before Spyrex's claim. (RC's passive randomizer may or may not be able to be affected by jailkeep, but I dunno about that.) Hrm.

@ SC: How did you come by the Tyler/Matrim info?

@ Amished: Who was your first character choice?

Also, deadline's in less than three days. We need to get a lynch on, and Ythan's my prime candidate. I

might

be persuaded on an SPS, Nikanor, or Spyrex lynch, but only to procure a lynch if no one else digs Ythan.

[Amished]

@SK: Juan (Johnnie) Rico from Starship Troopers (one of my favorite books of all time).

Ythan's tunneling looks town; Nik is a decent choice for me only because then I have less choices for stopping "random" roles (which I kinda inherently distrust). SPS I can be easily persuaded to only because I can't remember a single thing he's done all game and that's not normal for him.

SpyreX I've not seen anything scummy out of though, what makes him a suspect for you?

[UncertainKitten]

Nika needs to die for the same reasons I've been citing all day. He's been lying about paying attention (i.e., not doing it and saying he has been), and been posting in other games while neglecting this one, despite being called upon for information.

Not stupid town doesn't do that.

[Nikanor]

I know exactly what happens if I find her. We become neighbors (or masons, it's not specified she's town). I again wrote the original claim post with the intent of not playing my entire hand to Maria.

That's a pretty crappy reason to want to go last. You should have just claimed it day one a la Fishy and I in Linked Role Chaos Mafia v. 2.0.

Spy or UK can die today, but I have a feeling that UK isn't going to be lynched.

[UncertainKitten]

I didn't trust syke. First of all, I have been breadcrumbing like mad, and no one took my bait. So I had a lot of reason to distrust either Maria Ushiromiya or the fact she exists at all. So, therefore, my hope was to find someone hiding from me by claiming near the end of the queue. If people had seriously had issues with me doing that, I would have claimed earlier. I think it's pretty obvious that no one had any amazing objections to it.

In Linked Role, you had a LOT more reason to believe the link existed, and I believe you were specifically told you would be masonized?

[Nikanor]

I was told that something would happen, but not if it was good or bad. I didn't know the alignment of Fishy, either.
What does flavour say about Maria and Beatrice?

[UncertainKitten]

As if I trust flavor in this game. But, flavor would indicate a favorable relationship. As I said, it would be optimal for me to talk to her anyway since I could either discern she's town or scum on my own.

But she hasn't claimed. I figure that's what scum would have done, not claimed. So I tried to be more subtle, but it didn't work. Honestly, the earlier breadcrumbs basically sabotaged anything I could come up with now.

[LlamaFluff]

Unvote

(if needed)

Vote: Nikanor

I refer you back to my original post on him. Plus he is lurking pretty hard right now, Nik says that lurking is a scum tell for him, and he is doing it now.

[LlamaFluff]

Unvote

(if needed)

Vote: Nikanor

I refer you back to my original post on him. Plus he is lurking pretty hard right now, Nik says that lurking is a scum tell for him, and he is doing it now.

I should clarify that by lurking I mean "has basically only been talking about roles". He is posting, just not contributing much.

Why is UK best lynch?
Why is Spy second best?

[UncertainKitten]

Oh, to be on the safe side,

Unvote, Vote Nikanor

I'm PRETTY sure I'm already voting him, but now I KNOW I am.

[StrangerCoug]

@ SC: How did you come by the Tyler/Matrim info?

Did you read my claim? The mod told me this.

Waiting for a count. Not against voting Nikanor if nothing else is viable.