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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:50 am

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Well then.

Pom's claim is not sitting well with me, I dislike the Jack is obvpartner aspect of it and the Elli protect seems weird given how she's been voting. It is however believable.

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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:54 am

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Ellibereth wrote:Methinks Shattered is lurking his way through this. Scumz.
Would lynching someone else (shattered) and leaving both claimed docs alive today be a good play?
No, it seems like we should lynch one of the claimed docs. They can't get a successful protection anyway.

Perhaps I was right about zach-sv earlier. But pom's claim is pretty bad.

If we lynch zach and he's scum then it's probably sv.

If we lynch pom and she's scum then we have to decide between sv and vollk.

Zach's lynch probably gives more info, but I think he is much less likely scum.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:00 am

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Ellibereth wrote:Methinks Shattered is lurking his way through this. Scumz.
Would lynching someone else (shattered) and leaving both claimed docs alive today be a good play?
No.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:08 am

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Elli, Pom was V/LA after the second time you asked the question.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:54 am

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Deadline is a few hours less than a week away.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:45 pm

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Ellibereth wrote:oooooooooooooh counterclaim baby!
Pommy, why'd you protect me who I remember was somewhere midway on D1 ballot?
Zach, same question except me is Jack.

I'm obv heavily leaving Zach scum per why Pom is a power role a few posts up.
Well... if you were scum I think you would have 'hammered' me, as it would have made more of a commotion than a Jason lynch, and I think you could've milked a good mislynch out of the remains of it. And no one would have been surprised that you put me at the top. Plus, the 10 or so consecutive posts you made at the end of the day had a townie feel to them.

But both of those happened after I submitted my ballot, and that's why you were #4 on my ballot, and not lower.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:41 pm

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Both basically look dreadful. Zach claimed in circumstances where, as scum, he'd be risking a high likelihood of a counter claim; however, it's fair to say that with a claimed cop (who Zach-scum would have no reason to think one-shot) and the likely prospect of a doc/other protective role giving the cop a possible safe night, fakeclaiming seems a valid, if not optimal, strategy for Zach-scum. This last part applies to Pom as well, but to a lesser extent because of the 1-shot claim.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:24 pm

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Zach has posted like 20 times today but hasn't shown up here.

I'm pretty sure that if zach is scum, SV is scum.

And if pom is scum I think vollk is scum.

But I suppose we should lynch zach. If town he clears me and sort of vollk.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:05 am

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Not sure what I need to say. Obviously we have a guaranteed scum lynch no matter what happens, so the choice is either me or Pom, so she's obviously going to be at the top of my ballot. I just need to think things over to figure out where everyone else fits in.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:16 am

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Dear Shattered.

Post.

Sincerely TheButtonmen.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:19 am

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Dear TheButtonemen:

My top two are still Jack and Zach.

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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:51 am

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SV wrote: Dear TheButtonemen:

My top two are still Jack and Zach.

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Your last ballot:
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3. vollkan
4. Ellibereth
5. Jack
6. Zachrulez
7. Pomegranate
8. TheButtonmen
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TheButtonmen wrote:
Vote: Shattered
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Ellibereth wrote:Zach, pretend I have an innocent on Pommy: then who's scum?
Shattered Viewpoint and Vollkan.
Reasons, people. Reasons.
Indeed. Give us reasons. Now.

Specifically,
1) Why is it that you suspect Jack and Zach?
2) How is it that, since the end of yesterday, both Elli and myself have dropped below them in your rankings?
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:55 am

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Offical Ballot:

1. Zach.
2. SV
3. Pom
4. Jack
5. Volikan
6. Elli
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:59 am

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We should have the top suspects vote first and explain why.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:03 am

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Jack wrote: We should have the top suspects vote first and explain why.
Agreed.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:10 am

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Yes.

But then we have to establish top suspects. But it works.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:14 am

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Pomegranate wrote:Yes.

But then we have to establish top suspects. But it works.
Are you seriously pretending that you aren't one of the two lynch possibilities today?
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:21 am

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I guess.

But why the HELL would I counterclaim Zach if I was scum?
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:25 am

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Pomegranate wrote:I guess.

But why the HELL would I counterclaim Zach if I was scum?
Lack of counterclaim from scum-you would equal town auto-win.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:25 am

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I don't think Pom is faking dumb.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:26 am

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Ellibereth wrote:I don't think Pom is faking dumb.
Don't be insulting :p

But yeah, I can go for zach and sv I guess.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:06 am

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Jack wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:I guess.

But why the HELL would I counterclaim Zach if I was scum?
Lack of counterclaim from scum-you would equal town auto-win.
A one-for-one trade isn't worth it for scum.

If Zach flips town you lynch me tomorrow.

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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:09 am

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Pomegranate wrote:
Jack wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:I guess.

But why the HELL would I counterclaim Zach if I was scum?
Lack of counterclaim from scum-you would equal town auto-win.
A one-for-one trade isn't worth it for scum.

If Zach flips town you lynch me tomorrow.

Happy?
Ok not that it matters. But if zach's claim was believed then there were only three people left remember. sv, vollk, and you. And the town had a mislynch to spare. So that would be game over. But if you were scum you could get the mislynch on vollk, then we would lynch you, and then maybe we would lynch the wrong one out of sv/vollk. So you had to counterclaim if you were scum.

I'm tending to disbelieve zach's claim more though.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:12 am

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I'm a tad confused by your wording. I don't think that it proves that scum had to counterclaim though.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:05 pm

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Oops. >.<
SORRY POMMY, WASN'T MEANING TO OFFEND ETC.

And Pommy:
Assume Zach is real doc, and no counter, so peoples believe him.
THat means, Me, button, Jack, and Zach, are all confirmed.
3 people left. 1 mislynch and 2 scumz left.
So town autowins.
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