Mini 986: Beatles Mafia (Game Over)

[VasudeVa]

But Skewie, Zang is one of them VIs who got us lynched. I'll let the cops/vigs take care of him.

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I am very disappointed with SB. I don't want to fan the flames anymore(even if I have a lot to say about respecting the game, the players etc.). Let's just lynch her and move on. I think she has a reasonable chance to flip scum anyway.

[Zang]

Well, I had nothing to do with your lynch.

[petroleumjelly]

Official Day One Vote Count: #10

6 - Starbuck (inHimshallibe, Anon, VasudeVa, TheSkeward, Karma, ekiM)
4 - inHimshallibe (danakillsu, muh316, Zang, Scott Brosius)
1 - muh316 (Shadow Dancer)

With

12

alive it takes

7

to lynch, and

4

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is July 2 at 4:00 p.m. PST.

Not Voting - 1 - Starbuck

[Anon]

Someone end this torment.

[muh316]

Guess I have no choice
Unvote

vote starbuck

[Zang]

[Zang]

Tommorow we lynch inhim.

[Anon]

did I miss the flip, why are you sad Zang?

[Zang]

Because I'm pretty sure she's town.

[Anon]

wait, why?

[Zang]

Because i have no reason to suspect her as scum and it seems scum driven.

[petroleumjelly]

Official Day One Vote Count: #11

7 - Starbuck (inHimshallibe, Anon, VasudeVa, TheSkeward, Karma, ekiM, muh316)
3 - inHimshallibe (danakillsu, Zang, Scott Brosius)
1 - muh316 (Shadow Dancer)

With

12

alive it takes

7

to lynch, and

4

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is July 2 at 4:00 p.m. PST.

Not Voting - 1 - Starbuck

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Starbuck, "Hello, Goodbye," Townie, has been lynched!

It is now

Night One

. Deadline is

July 3 at 9:00 p.m. PDT

. Pursuant to the rules, the deadline for night can be extended for 24 hours if I receive a PM requesting an extension prior to the deadline hitting.

[petroleumjelly]

ekiM, “Blackbird,” Townie, has been killed!

inHimshallibe, “In Spite of All the Danger,” 2-Shot Doctor, has been killed!

It is now

Day Two

. With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch, and

3

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is July 19, at 9:00 p.m. PDT.

[VasudeVa]

inHim is a weird kill. .

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I think there is 1-2 scum in SB wagon and 1 scum in inHim. I don't think SD is scum.

Vote: Zang

, for now. (I did suspect him sometime in the middle of D1.)

[danakillsu]

inHim is a weird kill. .

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I think there is 1-2 scum in SB wagon and 1 scum in inHim. I don't think SD is scum.

Vote: Zang, for now. (I did suspect him sometime in the middle of D1.)

I think that was probably a vig. I'm really confused, though, because neither of my main scumreads was scum. I think the lurkers in this game must be our scum, because they were content to let us lynch SB or inHim.

vote: muh316

[VasudeVa]

That totally does not work since everyone(including me.) lurked at one point or another. It's almost like we're back to D1 with three less Town. >.>.

[Scott Brosius]

inHim is a weird kill. .

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I think there is 1-2 scum in SB wagon and 1 scum in inHim. I don't think SD is scum.

Vote: Zang

, for now. (I did suspect him sometime in the middle of D1.)

Why do you think this? General comments about scum being on X wagon are not helpful, as given that half of the game needs to be on a wagon for a lynch, there are almost definitely going to be scum on any lynch.

[muh316]

inhim has to be a vig because scum would never kill the guy. For now I haven't heard from karma yet. Zang is less scummy due to the mnkeyman lynch.
Let's let the lurkers out.

vote karma

Also any explanation for my vote dana?

[Shadow Dancer]

Sorry for missing the DL. I'm done with my reread now. I haven'd found anything clearly scummy so far However, there were quite some people (including myself ) I'd like to hear more from, with InHim dead, I'm most interested in muh right now.

vote muh

@muh: I think you gave a scum list without any explanations (or only one on Karma if I rember correctly) on D1. I'd like to hear about the reasons for every one on your list.
Also: How does it make Zang any less scummy in your eyes that he was not on the monkey/star waggon? It was definitely an easy possibility to earn some townie credit, could very well be scummy.

@SB: So what's helpful and why don't you do it. I'Ve seen you lying low for the whole D1 now. What about some opinion about other players or something?

@VV: There is lurking and there is lurking (with a difference in motivation behind it), increasing the activity level and forcing every one to give some stances is definitely helpful, any way.

[muh316]

Sorry for missing the DL. I'm done with my reread now. I haven'd found anything clearly scummy so far However, there were quite some people (including myself ) I'd like to hear more from, with InHim dead, I'm most interested in muh right now.

vote muh

@muh: I think you gave a scum list without any explanations (or only one on Karma if I rember correctly) on D1. I'd like to hear about the reasons for every one on your list.
Also: How does it make Zang any less scummy in your eyes that he was not on the monkey/star waggon? It was definitely an easy possibility to earn some townie credit, could very well be scummy.

Thats the second time this game. Did you read the whole game. ISO me, you're going to see it my explanations. It's not because he wasn't on the wagon. I thought he was less scummy because Monkeyman turned out to be town. I guess you REALLY need to read the whole game before asking questions.

[Shadow Dancer]

I read it. Twice. What about Karma and InHim?

And again: How could Zang townie have known monkey is not town? He was off the waggon for metagaming reasons (SB deserves chance to catch up), btw, only later he claimed he also doubted she's scum. Interesting twist, by the way. I think all that points more towards scummy Zang.

unvote. vote zang

I'll try and ISO read him a bit more later this evening.

[Scott Brosius]

@SB: So what's helpful and why don't you do it. I'Ve seen you lying low for the whole D1 now. What about some opinion about other players or something?

Although it isn't as much of an issue, can everyone refer to Starbuck as something other than SB, it's confusing the hell out of me.

I don't think Zang is scum. He was clearly arguing against a MM/Star lynch the end of D1, and just furthered that after the hammer. I thin it would have been a scumslip if he was on the wagon or wasn't so vehemently arguing against a Star lynch.

I like the idea of a muh lynch today. He was a suspect of eKim before he jumped on the inhim wagon, hammered the townie with the weak reason of "guess I have no choice". This was quite a change of heart.

Why does starbuck deserve a chance, muh?

Starbuck is a replacement. He didn't get a chance to give any defence. He didn't even read through the game yet. It seems unfair to me that he's lynched without giving a proper defense.

Guess I have no choice
Unvote

vote starbuck

So two days before the hammer, he felt as if Star deserved a chance. Yet he was willing to hammer 2 days after expressing that sentiment.

Vote: muh316

inHim is a weird kill. .

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I think there is 1-2 scum in SB wagon and 1 scum in inHim. I don't think SD is scum.

Vote: Zang

, for now. (I did suspect him sometime in the middle of D1.)

I really just don't like this post. The NK speculation+emoticon rubs me the wrong way and it seems like you felt the need to substantiate your vote by mentioning that you suspected Zang yesterday. Also the unhelpful theory on what scum is on what wagon. I'm keeping my eye on VV.

[VasudeVa]

@muh: Vigs usually have 'shot' as a flavor. This one is 'killed'. Then again, that isn't always the case.

@SB: NK speculation is not very popular, but it doesn't hurt Town to do it. There has to be some motivation behind the kills and speculating helps.

What's wrong with a minor explanation for the vote? I do that because I dislike unexplained votes(You'll notice that all of my votes have explanations behind them.) Why are you suspecting me for it? Why are you using the 'emoticon' scumtell when you didn't suspect Karma D1 for it?

[VasudeVa]

Actually, I have a better vote now.

I like the idea of a muh lynch today.

He was a suspect of eKim before he jumped on the inhim wagon

, hammered the townie with the weak reason of "guess I have no choice". This was quite a change of heart.
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I really just don't like this post.

The NK speculation

+emoticon rubs me the wrong way and it seems like you felt the need to substantiate your vote by mentioning that you suspected Zang yesterday. Also the unhelpful theory on what scum is on what wagon. I'm keeping my eye on VV.

Vote: Scott

[Karma]

VOTE: muh316

I can dig it