Mini 985:Madness at Night: Game over

[Hayker]

Day 2

The town all woke up to find one more person missing. The body of Podium lay in the fountain of the town, turning it's clear waters red. Everyone thoroughly checked his belongings and found absolutely nothing of note.

Poidum123456, the vanilla townie, has been killed.

Deadline is July 18th 2pm PST, with a possible extension to the 25th 2pm PST,

[AlmasterGM]

Good morning, everyone. It was nice to catch scum yesterady, wasn't it? Don't you wish you could replicate that giddy feeling every single day?

Fortunately, you can! See, I'm the REAL cop in this game and I'm counter claiming SSBF's lying ass. Either he's scum or this setup is seriously screwed up. Given his play yesterday, I'm going to go with the latter. SSBF is scum.

Why didn't I claim yesterday, you ask? Because it was only Day 1, and I wanted to get an investigation in. Annnnnnnnnd hey, guess what?

I investigated llama last night and GOT A MOTHER FUCKIN GUILTY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ONE NIGHT. TWO SCUM.

DAY TWO. GAME OVER.

SLAM DUNK, KA CHING KA CHING.

[Wickedestjr]

Almaster, in that case, why not vote somebody?

[AlmasterGM]

Oh yeah, I'm used to not voting because the other game I'm in has been in a danger zone for the past week so people try not to vote.

Vote: llama

[Wickedestjr]

After Sando flipped scum I was 90% certain that llama was town. I think Almaster is insane if he is really a cop.

I am very anxious to here from the other cops.

[Wickedestjr]

Also, just a reminder, I'm going to be gone the next seven days and will have no computer access.

[podium123456]

Can we make a death post here? Dont see anything for/against in rules... i guess you'll delete if we cant.

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I'd like to send out a big F.U. to my haters.

Hopefully u guys can sort out the rest of this for a win.

....oh and hiphop... you got your wish.

[crypto]

AlmasterGM, why did you not counterclaim SSBF yesterday?

[crypto]

Never mind.

[crypto]

The question I meant to ask is why you put no pressure whatsoever on SSBF after his claim.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Night 1, I investigated AlmasterGM, mainly because I felt there was a potential connection between him and Sando, who flipped scum.

I received my result. AlmasterGM is town.

Neverthless, AlmasterGM's claim is really surprising and to be honest, I don't believe it. Two investigative roles doesn't sound like overboard, but three does. I know that AlmasterGM is town, but the only way I'm even going to have a chance at believing it is if he is right about llamaeatataco is scum.

So therefore, here are the possible scenario's:
1. Me and AlmasterGM are the cops (Doubt it)
2. I'm the real cop and charter is the gunsmith (Believe this)
3. AlmasterGM is the cop and charter is the gunsmith (I know I'm town, so no)

I know I'm the cop, so obviously not #3. The first scenario is also very unlikely and too themish for my taste, so I believe that charter and me are the gunsmith and cops respectively.

@AlmasterGM: What if llamaeatataco is actually town? What if I get killed and flip town? What if we're actually both cops? What would be your reaction?

[hiphop]

Nopo- sorry for the push. I now know you are town.

This game is insane.

From the point from Sando's claim till his death, I thought he might be more likely town. Not sure what is was at this moment, but it doesn't matter now.

After his death I was all prepared to vote Charter. I thought if there was a godfather, there has to be a cop. Therefore of all the people left, and being he did not want to vote Sando, surely he had to be scum.

Now Almaster comes out with this claim. Right now I am with Wicked, and Almaster is scum or insane. The latter is more like it.

Want to hear charter's results even though I know what it is going to be.

I think it is hillarious that Spyrex is on record that one of the cops is lying, yet now we have three. So Spyrex are two of these lying?

Let's go with the insane, sane cops and lynch charter. Actually that makes sense. A godfather, miller, it all fits. Charter does not.

vote: Charter

Not only that but look at this

A quick rummaging through his stuff showed that Sando had absolutely nothing that pointed him towards being mafia. The town sighed, until someone found a piece of paper detailing how to appear innocent to cops.

They didn't find a gun on him, but rather a piece of paper that told him how to be innocent to cops. Flavor or no flavor, charter is scum.


Podium-GRR...You took away my nk. That was supposed to be my death scene.

[hiphop]

1. Me and AlmasterGM are the cops (Doubt it)

Are you doubting your result? What is he a lying townie?

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Are you doubting your result?

No I am not. I am confident that AlmasterGM is town. Just that I currently don't buy the cop claim. I also have yet to see a Mini Normal with two cops, regardless of variations. However, the evidences that you provided is something to look over.

What is he a lying townie?

He could potentially be lying, but town has no reasons to lie, especially not about there role. If me and AlmasterGM are truly town, this can be proven if llamaeatataco flips scum/AlmasterGM flips town.

[hiphop]

Just that I currently don't buy the cop claim..... but town has no reasons to lie,

So your lying about your result? One way or another- either A he is town AND a cop, or B your scum faking a result. Not believing B, so A is the truth.

Have you ever heard of an insane cop? Ever? Let me help, all results are backwards. Therefore if he is a insane cop, llama is town. Get it? So really he cannot be proven town unless you flip town. If he flips town, it certaintly does not prove that you are town. So I will not be lynching Almaster, before you, because A and B can be proven above from a lynch of you.

[charter]

I tried to investigate Nopoint, but was roleblocked.

vote SSBF

Seems pretty straightforward at this point.

[crypto]

Why would charter-scum fake-claim gunsmith at that interval, hiphop?

[crypto]

Given what we know the optimal move here would probably be to lynch llamaeatataco, which is a shame because I really think he's town.

If there are both a sane and insane cop then how does the (death) miller fit in? Maybe one of the cops is naive or paranoid.

[charter]

Why would charter-scum fake-claim gunsmith at that interval, hiphop?

That's a really good question.

Why should we lynch Llama over SSBF? I don't really see how it matters one way or the other.

[llamaeatataco]

ohai. this is like 7 fricken' pages for me to catch up on. I did read the highlights though... Sando was scum. I feel like a winner.
Anyway, I may or may not go in to work tomorrow, so I may or may not have my catchup reading done by day after tomorrow. Don't expect a huge wall of text either.

If you lynch me: 1.) Alamanatee could be scum taking advantage of a fail cop (this reminds me of halo mafia... >.<) 2.) he could be insane cop. If you lynch me, you'll be inclined to lynch him when I flip town, or just know that he's insane. I personally think alamanatee = insane cop, ssbf = scum and charter = gunsmith, but I haven't read the past ten pages or so yet. Also, what if ssbf is naive and alamanatee is para and charter is the actual investigative role?

[AlmasterGM]

Are all of you serious right now? Look at the two stories, objectively:

Story 1: There are two scummy players. One claims cop when under pressure and narrowly avoids a lynch (a traditionally strategic play as scum. The other escapes as well, but gets investigated that night and is found, somewhat unsurprisingly, guilty.
Story 2: There are two cops in the game, one is insane and one isn't. There is also a death miller, a Godfather, and a gunsmith. There are two scummy players; one of them just happens to have the sane cop, the other is actually town but flips innocent because one of the cops is insane. Also, the scum decided not to kill or roleblock the claimed cop, even though they just lost their Godfather and so he could now conceivably out all of them.

If you believe Story 2 over Story 1 you are out of your mind. Llama was scummy yesterday and there's NO reason to believe he ISN'T scum except for the word of a scummy, counterclaimed cop spouting the absurd Story 2. What we today is obvious: lynch llama.

[AlmasterGM]

Also, to answer questions:

@crypto - I did say that the claim was fake (I can find the quote if you want), but I felt like putting excessive pressure on the lynch would have tipped my hand, which I didn't want to do.

@SSBF - I think we should lynch llama before you. If he flips town, then I'm insane and you might be cop. If he flips scum, like I STRONGLY suspect, then you're 100% confirmed scum, no ifs ands or buts. Also consider the fact that you were insanely scummy yesterday, so there's no reason I should believe anything you say at all.

[hiphop]

Why would charter-scum fake-claim gunsmith at that interval, hiphop?

Not sure exactly. Maybe he wanted to get it out, but like I said the piece of paper said how to appear innocent to cops. Not the cop, but cops. Of course it could be just flavor. Though I would think if there was a gunsmith, it might have said something like they found a gun on him.

Also the death miller fits in because if one of the cops is insane he would appear innocent.

Almaster story 2 is wifom. If anything I would rather lynch SSBF before Llama. Why? Because if he flips town, you are 100% town, even though you probably are. If scum then it is wifom.

Still like story 2, but will go with story 1.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

@hiphop: No I am not lying about my result. However, thinking about it, I am starting to consider that the situation you presented is very well possible.

And another thought. If we lynch charter ToDay, this lynch will most strongly reflect SpyreX. I say this because SpyreX has many times suggested that I am lying but charter is not, indicating that they are more likely of the same alignment then others here. Given that flavor evidence provided by hiphop, which favors a cop role over a gunsmith role, charter is more likely to be scum. If a charter scum flip happens, I will investigate SpyreX Night 2.

[hiphop]

Also keep in mind Llama had the very first vote of that wagon, even though all heat was off.
SSBF didn't comment until after the lynch.
Charter said he would not lynch Sando.