Mini 980 - Trader Mafia (Game Over)

[zoraster]

Day 4 Vote Count

Zang ( 0 )
SaintKerrigan ( 0 )
Zajnet ( 0 )
nopointinactingup ( 1 ) Steam-Powered Shovel,
Fishythefish ( 2 ) Zang, SaintKerrigan,

Steam-Powered Shovel ( 4 ) AlmasterGM, Zajnet, nopointinactingup, Fishythefish,

AlmasterGM ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 0 )
Total Votes ( 7 )
Deadline: July 9th at 11:00 EDT
With 7 total votes, 4 needed to lynch.

Marketplace

To place a bid, PM Zoraster with the highest price you would be willing to pay.

7 Night Kill x 2

- Twice per game, you may PM the mod with a target. The following night, you will attempt to kill that person.
MB: 50 CB: 297 Deadline: SOLD

8 Governor x 1

- Once per game, you may PM the mod to use the governor power. This will skip that day's lynch. You must PM the mod BEFORE night falls. Twilight is fine, but you risk night falling before you get your PM in.
MB: 30 CB: 151 Deadline: SOLD

9 Deadline Setter

- You may set the deadline for the following day by PMing the mod before night falls. You may decide two variables: 1) the minimum lynch time (from 0-3 days), 2) the maximum deadline (from 7-14 days).
MB: 1 CB: 1 Deadline: SOLD

Current bids may not be up-to-date. Current Bids and Deadlines will only be kept up-to-date by edit until the next vote count is posted.

Steam-Powered Shovel, a member of the "Anarcho-Syndicalist Mafia" (Mafia B) was lynched.

There were no public night actions.

The Market is now as follows:

Marketplace

To place a bid, PM Zoraster with the highest price you would be willing to pay.

1 Body Armor x 1

- This ability will allow its owner to take one night shot without dying.
MB: 0 CB: 0 Deadline: Open

2 Freeze Vote

- Once in the game, the vote freezer may PM the mod to start his freeze ability. While this is active, he will have to ability to PM the mod to freeze any person's vote in place. Once a player's vote is frozen, that player may not move his or her vote for the rest of the day. The vote freezer may not unfreeze a frozen person's vote. Votes on "not voting" may be frozen once 24 hours has elapsed in any game day. Doing this will lower the votes needed to lynch accordingly.

MB: 50 CB: 0 Deadline: Open

Current bids may not be up-to-date. Current Bids and Deadlines will only be kept up-to-date by edit until the next vote count is posted.

Day now begins. With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

My apologies for the delay. Been a very busy couple of days, and this game, as you might expect, expands in complexity every day.

[Zang]

Sorry, I didn't think there would be so much talk during twilight. Or that it would last so long. And

##Vote: Fishythefish

I know you are wrong.

##Vote: SPS

This is one of the scummiest hammers ever.

FMPOV, I think my hammer is justified. SK is mistaken about the loan repayment system (as the mod will confirm when he ends the day). A quicklynch on me could have happened, particularly with one or more of our CONFIRMED SCUM quickhammering.

Why didn't you post this with your hammer? Instead of just saying "you're wrong".

Thanks, but I'm protecting someone that I think is town.

If you protected nopoint, there would still be three factions in the game which would help the town. You picked a good person to protect.

Who did you protect?

 Somebody might be lit on fire though.

Zajnet has been tunnelled on me for the whole of today, and would have voted for me at the drop of a hat. Zang and SK were already voting for me. At least one SPS and NPAU would both obviously be happy to vote for me to save their own skin - both if they are scumbuddies. We probably weren't going to get mod intervention before deadline. A quickhammer was my only option in that situation.

So you only hammered to save yourself?

And that's not the reason for hammering you said before.

Hammering someone is not a scummy action. Preventing your own lynch to lynch known scum is not a scummy action, when there isn't time to derail the case on you by better means (ie. waiting for the mod in this situation).

There were only 2 votes on you, you had enough time to explain your situation.

Earlier he said he pickpocketed 38.75 off of Nopoint. However, since Fishy's mathematics absolutely requires the mod to be rounding off all of his numbers, that means the 38.75 from Nopoint would actually have been rounded up to 39. This definitely looks like a calculated number by Zang to try and support Nopoint's story.

I probably should have been clearer, I think i got 39 but it said I pickpocketed him and got 38.75 because that's the actual 20% of his money.

EBWOP: How did Zang know he got $38.75, a fractional number, off a Pickpocket?

I got it because that was 20% of nopoints money.

Zang: Did you or did you not receive $20 from AGM on the N1 Pickpocket?

I did, I targeted him because he didn't arrive until after bidding was pretty much completed. So I thought he would still have all of his money (I was correct).
 

[AlmasterGM]

Fishy is 100% the last scum. I have the gunsmith ability; I investigated him last night and he has a gun.

[AlmasterGM]

SLAM DUNK, gg scum.

Now we just need to decide who to lynch first.

[Zajnet]

If Fishy flips town, we kill AGM.

##Vote: Fishythefish

[Zang]

SLAM DUNK, gg scum.

Now we just need to decide who to lynch first.

what?

[SaintKerrigan]

STOP VOTING RIGHT NOW!

If we vote the wrong person and they're town, town loses the game. We need to think for awhile before we start throwing votes around.

Obviously AGM's claimed result looks damning on Fishy. But this claim is exactly what a Scum B would do in this situation, because if a townie is mislynched, then the Scum B can NK one townie, arson a second one, and ignite both the primed townies at the start of D6. That leaves only two people alive, and since he controls the only remaining NK that likely means a win for Scum B. So if AGM is scum this is a perfect move for him to claim.

And quite frankly, I'm bothered about Zang only getting $20 from AGM on N1. If AGM still had all of his cash and was town, Zang should've gotten $25 off of the pickpocket, not $20 (since 25% of 100 is 25). At the same time, I don't know how scum AGM would've had only $80 dollars left when Zang stole from him. However, AGM claimed to have not done anything with his money of D1 so if Zang's right we can lynch based on LaL. So Zang, in light of this, I'll ask you one more time to make sure that you got $20 from AGM instead of $25.

[SaintKerrigan]

EBWOP:

THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE VOTING SHOULD UNVOTE TO PREVENT ANY KIND OF SHENANIGANS FROM HAPPENING!

[SaintKerrigan]

Also, current Pickpocket owner needs to claim and share who they Pickpocketed last night.

[nopointinactingup]

What? Fishy got his NK after Night 4 .. ? That sucks.
And SK .. You can't unvote according to the rules. One person who's not voting right now is AGM, who said to have confirmed Fishy scum. At this point I'm kinda hoping Fishy isn't scum ..

[AlmasterGM]

The math adds up, I assure you. If there's any question, I'm sure it's a mistake and can be resolved.

Also, if I'm scum, who was bidding against me on the NK, hmm? My own partner? How would we afford arsonist, a second NK, AND the ability to bid against one another?

If anything, Zang is just messing up. I got pickpocketed again last night, btw.

[SaintKerrigan]

Fishy is 100% the last scum. I have the gunsmith ability; I investigated him last night and he has a gun.

If that's true, why is there no vote in this post?

[SaintKerrigan]

INSTEAD OF UNVOTING, VOTE FOR YOURSELF IF YOU'RE ALREADY VOTING!

And no, the numbers don't add up, AGM. You claimed to do nothing with your money on D1, therefore Zang should've stolen $25 from you on N1, not $20. That's why I'm making him check all this.

[Zajnet]

AGM's probably town because of the NK thing. I don't have the pickpocket.

I think we should lynch Fishy.

[nopointinactingup]

SK, only 4 people are not voting, me and AGM included. Thus, you will not be able to push for either of these two lynches. Right now, Fishy's the most suitable lynch. Though after you got that scum, I'd be lynched tomorrow and the town wins. Though I hate to admit losing, it's time to retire SK.

[Zang]

Sorry, I did get 25.

[Zajnet]

EBWODP: However, an ISO of AGM shows vote hopping like a mofo then voting SPS, essentially saying that he's thought SPS was scummy all along even though he'd been voting against me, SaintK, NS, and Andrius over the previous few meat-space days.

I need to reread AGM, Fishy, and SPS more in depth.

[Zajnet]

Sorry, I did get 25.

/facepalm

So AGM's probably town then. Zang probably is too. If Zang was scum, he'd just maintain that he got $20, and we'd likely lynch AGM. So lets lynch Fishy.

[nopointinactingup]

Zajnet, out of those 3, the only one town can possibly lynch today is Fishy. You can save the reading for tomorrow but today, we are lynching Fishy. And look at what Zang confirmed.

##Vote:Fishy

[Fishythefish]

AGM is clearly lying. Here's why: noone had a gun last night! The NK was bought

after

the night.

[nopointinactingup]

I know That's why I voted you Fishy

[Zajnet]

@Mod: If the gunsmith targetted the person who bought the second NK last night, would they have gotten a yes?

[Fishythefish]

@Zang, Zajnet: you need to get those votes off me. The scum are outed, and I am not one of them. Put your votes literally anywhere else - I am at L-1.

[Fishythefish]

@Zajnet: get that vote off me! At least until the mod answers your question.

[SaintKerrigan]

WOULD SOMEONE OTHER THAN OUR LOCAL CONFIRMED SCUM PLEASE VOTE FOR SOMEONE OTHER THAN FISHY, GODDAMMIT!!!

Ok, so the $20 issue is resolved. There's this new NK aspect to deal with now, and it entirely depends on when Zoraster resolved the NK purchase and the end of D4.