Harry Potter Mafia - Over!

[Furcolow]

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need more votes on dramonic to see how this plays out

[ReaperCharlie]

ehhh...

your theory/proposition is all well and good... except for the fact that it's just a bucket of wifom... i.e. useless.
you're linking me with dramonic's alignment, which has nothing to do with my own alignment; i am town.

are you saying scumhunting based on slips and tells is incorrect? even if i am mistaken about dramonic being
scum, that doesn't automatically make my method of scumhunting wrong. that's just loopy.

by your logic, farside22 should be strung up because sudo_nym was a mislynch. do you agree?...

...i thought not.

and did you even

read

my post? if so, do you have anything to say about it? why the backtracking on your
read of me? just because it furthers your agenda, or do you really believe that I am scum?

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i still haven't re-read yet, sry people. i am in the middle of starting a game i am modding, i should be less
busy in a day or two. i'm kinda overloaded right now

[Furcolow]

"are you saying scumhunting based on slips and tells is incorrect? even if i am mistaken about dramonic being
scum, that doesn't automatically make my method of scumhunting wrong. that's just loopy."

um... i am actually FOR his lynch based upon slips and tells, and i provided one you didn't even mention! he claimed that two people were town without saying might or maybe or perhaps or anything. he said it as a definite.

I actually would be ok with lynching farside. If you re-read me you will see that I did NOT take that as town on town. I took it as town on scum. I have a reason for this, too, but i don't want to reference an ongoing game.

i don't believe you are scum if dramonic is scum
if dramonic isnt scum then i believe you would be scum is KMD is scum or vice versa.

Why do you even make an excuse for lack of activity? you are one of the more active players.
Hell, there is a guy who hasnt posted for a month. LOL

I don't see why you're getting so defensive from me proposing my plan. I mean, I do see why you would if you were scum..

if you were scum, and we do my plan, and dram turns up green, we lynch you
perhaps you are shaking in your boots because of this?

"
by your logic, farside22 should be strung up because sudo_nym was a mislynch. do you agree?...

...i thought not."

I would attribute that to Espeonage (sudo_nym's lynch), actually. I am completely fine with lynching a lot of the players in this game now that i think about it... lol

farside? sure
rc? if dram is town, sure
fakegod? leaning towards scum
kmd? would be good information
dramonic? yea, he's practically already lynched and flipping scum

MPR? im ok with lynching later before lylo

[Furcolow]

hopefully we don't even have to do that, though, and mpr can ride my coattails to victory

[Furcolow]

even village idiots deserve wins sometimes, right mpr?

[ReaperCharlie]

hopefully we don't even have to do that, though, and mpr can ride my coattails to victory

haha


and i make an excuse because i probably wont be doing my re-read for at least a day or two.

[Furcolow]

well, i don't feel like re-reading 25 pages either lol

[Espeonage]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Furc

[SpyreX]

@ spyrex, why dont you think dram is a good lynch? do you not agree that his slip 90% confirms that he is scum or a doc? either he's a scum whose kill didn't go through, or he's a doc and he assumed his protection went through. the fact that i was targeted last night by what i assume was a killing action (which i am 99% sure i survived because of my role, not because of any protection on me), and the fact that HE DIDNT READ THAT before he posted his thing saying 'ooo looks like the doc got lucky' makes me think he's scum as opposed to a doc. do you agree or disagree?

I just don't see that as a slip. Looking at the flavor missing an actual wizard kill makes sense. Thats the biggest part by a wide margin.

[ReaperCharlie]

@ spyrex, why dont you think dram is a good lynch? do you not agree that his slip 90% confirms that he is scum or a doc? either he's a scum whose kill didn't go through, or he's a doc and he assumed his protection went through. the fact that i was targeted last night by what i assume was a killing action (which i am 99% sure i survived because of my role, not because of any protection on me), and the fact that HE DIDNT READ THAT before he posted his thing saying 'ooo looks like the doc got lucky' makes me think he's scum as opposed to a doc. do you agree or disagree?

I just don't see that as a slip. Looking at the flavor missing an actual wizard kill makes sense. Thats the biggest part by a wide margin.

yeah well, maybe i didn't explain it well enough, or maybe you missed these posts.

Yes I did. I am Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore, and

I'm some kind of buffed-up JOAT

... flavor talks about me being headmaster of Hogwarts, and I lost contact w/everyone else cause whoever hasn't already gotten ganked by Death Eaters was made blurry by a spell, and that I have to restore order to the world.

ugh, you guys are so dense.

ALSO: I think the mafia tried to kill me last night,

because I received a mod PM stating that I was 'weakened' and that I 'might not survive another direct attack'. soooo.... somebody else might have tried to kill ooba? ...maybe we have an SK running around, i dont know. (though I don't know who it'd be, flavor-wise).

educated guesses say Fenrir Greyback, which would make sense, but I also brought up this:

As for what's being said about Fenrir Greyback being the SK, that sounds pretty plausible, but read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Eate ... r_Greyback

which means that EITHER

1) we DO have an SK (FG) running around, he killed ooba, and the mafia kill was blocked, OR
2) FG is Death Eater Mafia and his kill flavor is torn and scratched.

Now this relies completely on flavor BUT.

whether it's 1) or 2),

dram

did

make a slip

about saying the doctor saved a guy last night. this either means he's scum or a doc. whether he's Death Eater Mafia scum or an SK, we don't know, but SINCE HE DIDNT READ MY POST BEFORE MAKING HIS POST, it could be any one of these:

a) Dram-Mafia - hey, my kill didn't go through! wtf? looks like the doc got lucky!
b) Dram-SK - hey, my kill went through but i was the only one? wtf? looks like the doc got lucky!
c) Dram-Doc - hey, a kill went through last night. the guy i saved didn't die sooo... HOORAY I GOT LUCKY!
---c1) MUST assume that there is an SK in this game (fair chance, but not certain. he assumes it anyway)
---c2) MUST assume that the kill was not a Mafia kill. (completely dependent upon flavor. not reliable, but he assumes it anyway)
---c3) assuming EITHER of the above makes option c) a lot less likely. HE ASSUMED BOTH.

d) Dram-any-other-role does not fit, so I'm graying this out.

My money is that he's an SK, if there is one. I notice that he makes NO speculation about whether there is an SK or not, whether Fenrir Greyback might be SK or Mafia, and to tell you guys the truth, that is one of the biggest things that makes me think he's scum. A townie would have been like "Well... lets think what happened last night? wanna go over the possibilities?", BUT he's done none of that.

In fact, this is the only post he's offered up with any kind of speculation. To be fair I'm posting it here.

@ dram: You said that already. And what I am saying is, if you really posted that before reading my post, you:

a) assumed that one kill wasn't enough (which a townie would have no way of knowing right off the bat)
b) assumed the kill wasn't a Death Eater kill, according to flavor (which a townie probably wouldn't know, since there ARE curses like Sectumsempra)
c) made the jump straight to doc, without even any conjecture on whether there was a third-party or not (SK or otherwise)

a) Because mafias don't kill now? Never heard that BS
b) Sectumsempra is a clean slash, nothing to do with the kill's flavour. There is NO spell in the whole HP cannon that fits afaik =_=
c) Kmd summed up pretty well the logical sources for the kill. It COULD have been a roleblocker too blocking the kill. Do you feel happy now?

And also to be fair, I'll destroy it right here as well.

a) but still you assume that there's mafia AND an SK. A townie would have no way of knowing that. In fact, many townies (myself included) might automatically start wifoming it up that the traitor (counting as the 4th mafia in a 16-player game) would have been enough reason to exclude an SK from the setup, unless town was equally-powered. (and this is still more reason I think he's an SK if there is one)

b) Ok maybe I'm a little rusty on exactly how Sectumsempra works but I haven't read the 6th book for a long time and there's nothing in the movie that makes me think that it couldn't match the kill flavor. But after thinking over it... yea its not really a killing curse, just an injuring one, so I guess dram is right on this one.

c) No, I do not feel happy. roleblocker is classically a scum role, not a town role. imo it's either doc or nothing that could stop a mafia kill.

soooo... yea.


And since dram knows that the ONLY thing that would save him from a lynch would be claiming doc, I guarantee that's what he'll claim if he's run up. And as I stated above and in my other posts, it seems pretty clear to me that he's one of the two, scum or doc, and I tend to think he's scum rather than doc.


Love,
ReaperCharlie

[ReaperCharlie]

I just don't see that as a slip.

read options a), b), and c) above and tell me you don't think that's a slip again. seriously.. I'm starting to have doubts about you spyrex.

[Furcolow]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Furc

funny that this guy of all people thinks i'm scummy

[Furcolow]

espeonage, vote dramonic.

[Espeonage]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Dramonic

This game is going to get very fun very quickly.

[Espeonage]

oh and you passed the test. Thought you should know.

[dramonic]

Wow... Just...
What the hell kind of BS is that? 0_o

[Furcolow]

LOL

[Furcolow]

nice we've got some 4am lurking going on

[Furcolow]

lol

[dramonic]

I don't feel a need to answer everything that is posted.
However, that was freakin scummy.

[ReaperCharlie]

?!?!?!?

0_o

Unvote; Vote: Espeonage?

[FakeGod]

Will read stuff soon after my head stops hurting from looking at a comp screen for 12 hours yesterday...

[Nobody Special]

Votecount?

Somehow I thought we had reached a lynch on dram.

(still being lazy)

[dramonic]

Oh NS, you never got above, like, 3 or 4 votes on me.
It's 6 to lynch ^_^;

[dramonic]

erm, not 6, 8 =_=;

Point still holds. THe amount of lurkers in this game is worrisome.