Mini 983: It Got Worse (GAME OVER)

[Amished]

I think I know, and it makes me believe he's more than likely town; but I don't wanna talk about it.

And if I knew you were town, I'd vote somebody else.

[RedCoyote]

A Bus Driver/Redirector sounds like a role the Mod would use for a game like this, but then again, you could've been covering your ass in case SC snuck up on you with a "I saw you visit magnus".

Hmmmm...

On the other hand, you could've always fell back on the trusty ol' Vig claim.

I'll go with it, Amish. I feel better about you today than I did yesterday. I think I'm still a little hesistant on SK though. I'm rereading over the quote that Spyrex pointed out, and it does kind of look like SK was using a subtle "since magnus, a scum, went after me, that means it was scummy to come after me yesterday" argument. Additionally, I'm wondering why he outted himself as someone with a night action without provocation. Do you have an answer for that SK?

[Amished]

I also think the flavor behind my role worked out perfectly with what I attempted to do too; so I should get a point reduction for that....

[Amished]

@RC: What are your opinions on Nikanor?

[sykedoc]

Vote Count ON THE WAY!

[Amished]

Vote Count ON THE WAY!

25 minutes later... NOT FAST ENOUGH. I thought you meant it wasn't on the way from australia.

[Amished]

Hour later... *sigh*

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Nik

On top of the fact that he should apparently be dead outside of MO being RBed (which I doubt) and Nik being protected (which I doubt moreso), there are a few other things that make me happy about this vote.

Oh hi.

Unvote. Vote: SpyreX.

Spy isn't scumhunting. That's unlike him. I also get bad gut vibes from him.
I support the Amished and SK wagons and might hop on the bigger one later.

FoS: RedCoyote.

Right here we are a bit into the game, and Nik lines himself up for voting four different people. Spy for gut, Amish and SK for whatever others have been saying and RC for who knows from this post. Later he says he is more interested in the SK vote.

To be completely honest, I'd like to see RedCoyote and Spy hang first, in that order.
Reasons are because I'm psychic.
I'll defer to SP's lynch though because a) I'm usually wrong and b) he seems to actually know the reasons for which he finds people scummy.

He is going about it again here. Says that he wants a RC and Spy lynch, but also is willing to take a lynch of whoever SP says to lynch. Again, he is setting himself up for quite a few wagons, at least on who SP is saying, giving himself an excuse if they are town. At this point reading through Niks posts, there is zero way to tell what he thinks is scummy about these players, just who he thinks is scummy.

Unvote. Vote: SaintKerrigan.

I think that's the fourth vote on him? We have about 5 days left until deadline so we should speed this up.

Here is that bandwagon vote. It is a little later but finally shows up, still with no reasoning.

[Nikanor]

Can we stop all going "lol role info" already and get back to scumhunting? Will get recaught up tomorrow.

This is actually pretty scummy. I'm surprised I'm the first one to bring this up.

SK: You were in that marathon game where you, VV and I were pro-town mafia. You know how bastardly this game can be. I wouldn't really be surprised if m_o wasn't an SK at all.

[UncertainKitten]

@Nika: Why is it scummy again?
@Nika: Why are you justifying yourself flipping scum in advance?

Unvote, Vote Nikanor

[Nikanor]

*Waves at Llama*

Right here we are a bit into the game, and Nik lines himself up for voting four different people. Spy for gut, Amish and SK for whatever others have been saying and RC for who knows from this post. Later he says he is more interested in the SK vote.

RC was because we all agreed to FoS-lynch RC to see what happened, remember?

Llama, are you getting any solid scumreads this game? Because I'm not.

[StrangerCoug]

Can we stop all going "lol role info" already and get back to scumhunting? Will get recaught up tomorrow.

This is actually pretty scummy. I'm surprised I'm the first one to bring this up.

The hell? Trying to get town back on the right track is scummy? I'm sorry, but I do not have good reason to believe LlamaFluff thinks I should be the center of attention.

[UncertainKitten]

@Nika: Why are you ignoring my questions?
@Nika: Why are you scum?

[LlamaFluff]

Can we stop all going "lol role info" already and get back to scumhunting? Will get recaught up tomorrow.

This is actually pretty scummy. I'm surprised I'm the first one to bring this up.

Role information this game has the potential to be amazingly complicated and hard to piece together without what is almost a mass claim.

What I pointed out with something that suggests that you should be dead (again, maybe not as trustable as other stuff) is a good spot to start today.

[Nikanor]

@UK: It's something that scum says to appear pro-town. Talking about role info like that helps the town more often than not.
@UK: I'm not. I was talking about a bastard game marathon-modded by sykedoc in which SK and I were part of a pro-town mafia group, and Amished was a "Dirty Cop," a bad guy hidden in a cop group. In particular, I was responding to this:

I doubt the game would be that bastardy.

...right?

[UncertainKitten]

@Nika: To some point. Then you hit the point where you are leaking information townies can't interpret but scum CAN.
@Nika: Aye, that's what you'd like us to think but your post intent reads completely differently. And that's why I'm voting you. There's no pro town reason for us to doubt the flips.

[Amished]

@UK: It's something that scum says to appear pro-town. Talking about role info like that helps the town more often than not.
@UK: I'm not. I was talking about a bastard game marathon-modded by sykedoc in which SK and I were part of a pro-town mafia group, and Amished was a "Dirty Cop," a bad guy hidden in a cop group. In particular, I was responding to this:

I doubt the game would be that bastardy.

...right?

So... are you saying that m_o was pro-town? What are you going on about? That game was based solely off of not-fia. Why would that have any impact on this game?

[Nikanor]

@UK: I wouldn't have a problem with it if that's what Llama had said. He just said, "Let's stop talking about role info and get back to scumhunting." That comes from scum more often than from town.

Aye, that's what you'd like us to think but your post intent reads completely differently.

OR you're reading too much into my posts.

So... are you saying that m_o was pro-town? What are you going on about? That game was based solely off of not-fia. Why would that have any impact on this game?

Well, I wouldn't be surprised. I didn't think he was scum at all, so.

[LlamaFluff]

Llama, are you getting any solid scumreads this game? Because I'm not.

I am getting solid town reads. You are part of the group that I have never much if any town read on. Looking through posts, I see the reasons for that.

Also this game might not be that bastardly, this is game IS very swingy. My role basically screams that fact.

[Nikanor]

Oh, and I have a really good reason to think that there is a redirecter in this game. But Amished, can you please redirect people to themselves from now on?

I am getting solid town reads. You are part of the group that I have never much if any town read on. Looking through posts, I see the reasons for that.

And what do you think I've been doing?

[StrangerCoug]

@UK: I wouldn't have a problem with it if that's what Llama had said. He just said, "Let's stop talking about role info and get back to scumhunting." That comes from scum more often than from town.

Either link me to three games where scum suggests town should quit it with the role talk and move on to actual scumhunting or drop the crap case on LlamaFluff. There's a rhyme and reason to my withholding of information.

[Nikanor]

Either link me to three games where scum suggests town should quit it with the role talk and move on to actual scumhunting or drop the crap case on LlamaFluff.

Ooooh, you speak with such authority!
It's too bad that I'm not going to do either of those things, though.

[StrangerCoug]

Fine. You've made me stop caring about the count.

Unvote: Amished
Vote: Nikanor

[Amished]

*IF* m_o was an arsonist, me being a redirector and whatever with the other claimed/hinted at actions; I agree that it's looking extremely swingy. I'm not seeing a lot of bastardry yet, except for potential syke-communications. Even with that, it's not that bastardized I don't think. Especially not to the point that flips aren't reliable.

Look at Socio, he said that his death would result in gifts, SCoug said something pinata related lead to a correct result that I targeted mo. It can't be that bastardized.

@Nik: Why on earth would I want to redirect people to themselves? I don't feel myself to be a strong pro-town power role, so if scum will go after others my results will be claimed every day so that they can figure it out themselves (and restrict scum fake-claims most likely). The only time that my results wouldn't be advertised is if I'm NK'd; and if the scum want to off a redirector instead of some other hinted at PR's; then go me cause I'm protecting them.

[StrangerCoug]

Look at Socio, he said that his death would result in gifts, SCoug said something pinata related lead to a correct result that I targeted mo.

Reread what I've said. I've refused to state whether the result on you came from the piñata or not.