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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:08 am

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Day 2, Vote Count 5

The Endless Night...

Losses continue within the core, but perhaps there is a reason to hope?


1 BlazezRb
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[ 14 ]
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2 Faraday
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[ 14 ]
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3 Albert B. Rampage
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[ 14 ]
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4 manho
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[ 12 ]
- Nikator, Fate
5 dramonic
( 1 )
[ 13 ]
- DTMaster
6 chronopie
( 3 )
[ 11 ]
- Katy, S_B, Iecerint
7 Fate
( 4 )
[ 10 ]
- MightyOrbots, Rampage, manho
8 ooba
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[ 14 ]
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9 Mighty Orbots
( 0 )
[ 14 ]
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10 Parama
( 0 )
[ 14 ]
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11 Plum
( 1 )
[ 13 ]
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12 totallynotmafia
( 3 )
[ 11 ]
- Plum, BlazeRb, ChroniePie
14 VasudeVa
( 1 )
[ 13 ]
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15 DarkStalker
( 4 )
[ 10 ]
- ooba, raj, totallynotmafia
16 Snow_Bunny
( 1 )
[ 13 ]
- VasudeVa
17 Nikanor
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[ 14 ]
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18 Mina
( 1 )
[ 13 ]
- DarkStalker
20 Katy
( 0 )
[ 14 ]
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21 Tarhalindur
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[ 14 ]
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22 Inhimshallibe
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[ 14 ]
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23 Albatross
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[ 14 ]
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24 rajrhcpfreak
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[ 14 ]
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25 CryMeARiver
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[ 13 ]
- Tar
26 Iecerint
( 3 )
[ 11 ]
- dramonic, CryMeARiver, Albatross
27 FlipScythe
( 0 )
[ 14 ]
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28 DTMaster
( 0 )
[ 14 ]
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Votes Required to Lynch: 14
Not Voting: 3
Deadline: June 25

Notes: Still looking for a replacement for FlipScythe. If you know someone who wants to replace send them my way :D.
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:52 am

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2. Faraday - I don't like his failure to follow-up on promised reads of other games. Scummy.


^ this is a complete load of fucking shit. Did you even find out why or read why I didn't do this? I'm sorry I had a bereavment and didn't get time to read Greek Mythology Mafia. I'll read it when I get a chance the world cup is taking my time at the moment.

if Iec is scum I think Katy and TNM have a good chance of being scum. His reasons for finding both of them town 'lol gut says scum but i was wrong before so she's town' and 'bad people on wagon' are weak.

His reasons for finding Katy scummy and Elscouta scummy are pretty similar but has totally different reads on them.

Who the fuck is flipscythe anyway? I don't recall seeing a post from this person, so yeah. Your Vi list is pretty funny (why's DarkStalker a Vi as opposed to being scum) ebwop : being replaced, K'.

MO'S stuff on blaze makes sense..and makes me think MO is town. I'd not rule out Godfather completely, but since I'm not Tar I'm not going to start worrying about Godfather's at the moment.

Actually..didn't Katy claim the investigation on Ortolan? She's unlikely scum - makes little to no sense for her to do that on a town Orto or on a scum. She's town then so okay.


Anyways the lack of proper Iso is really annoying, there's people I want to read in iso but it's making it a pain.
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:54 am

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@Faraday, isolation is back now. It's below the other options but generally in the spot it used to be. It no longer puts all the posts on the first page like it used to but we've effectively got it once more.

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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:56 am

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Fate's a bad wagon, hypo scum fate pushing the survivor lynch doesn't make a lot of sense unless there's no townies to push (i.e. his buddies are the one's under suspicion) which while possible seems unlikely.

CMAR needs to post it's been a while since I've heard from him. His odd claim re: his immunity is, well odd. Why if you're NK immune would you fullclaim instead of trying to burn up some nightkills from scum? Makes no sense, and there's other stuff he's done that has bothered me.

Chronopie is prob town, I think the way he came out with his claim looks pretty damn honest to me, and despite some 'scummy' play I think his claim and the way it came about is quite town.

I'll try get Manho and TNM read in iso, and then vote one of them. Not really unhappy with either of their wagons actually.
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:57 am

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@ mod is that vote count right?


It should be... If you give me an example I could say yes or no though. Generally if a player's name is in two places at once that's my most common error though.
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:02 am

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Oshi- thanks Troll!
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:03 am

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Iecerint wrote:@ Fate, I didn't out anyone. Blaze claimed when he didn't need to. I'm not going to apologize for bringing his bizarre QT behavior to light, because it WAS bizarre, and I went so far as to wait A WEEK to get feedback from QT mates who NEVER POSTED. Then the straw that broke the camels back was when he (this still makes no sense whatsoever) claimed that I "couldn't have a read on him" because he'd only posted a few times, when I said I had a NEUTRAL read on his slot and had flat-out asked him if he'd just claimed scum in QT when he pulled that bizarre move.

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHWIQH$1@%#@!$#@!$%#@!%$#!#@R.
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manho wrote:blazer should come and explain it clearly
Umm, how so, thats a full claim.
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Fate wrote:LOL FUCKING SWEET WE GET TO LYNCH GUARANTEED 3RD PARTY:

UNVOTE
VOTE: PLUM


IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO CLAIM THAT WILL HELP TOWN NOWS YOUR CHANCE.
Uh, no.

However, there are two mitigating factors: 1)
I kinda need the Mafia Godfather dead and soon, and we can be pretty sure that Plum isn't it given reason
2) we have a claimed ability telling us how many scum are in the game (so we can lynch Plum at the correct time - I'd lynch her a day ahead of when we have to just to be safe) and that there is a Survivor in the game.


Especially not when we have a couple of really juicy targets lined up: you and Blaze.

Blaze: Yes, I know he's got a town investigation on him. However, given his behavior so far... I can't rule out Mafia Godfather. And that means I can't rule out a Blaze lynch.
Sane cop rules me as town, if you don't believe me, fine, but I think you should really go after confirmed scum (or people that have a good chance of being scum)
Mighty Orbots wrote: @Fate, Papa Zito's voting is fine for me (it's at least as good as mine would be.) In the post of his you're referencing pretty clearly his intent was to suggest that the BlazezRb wagon was potentially to distract from something else. While he was doing that we were talking in the quick topic about whether or not to reveal our alignment cop result on him (clearly we decided yes.)

@Iecerint, at this point unless there's enough of a push to get all the gods to declare what worshiping them will do I probably don't think that you should. Mind you, I do think that there should be a move in that direction.

@BlazezRb, it doesn't sound like you're a roleblocker. If I'm reading what you've said correctly it sounds like you avoid redirects for yourself, your target and those adjacent to you in the vote count while you have your hammer. Or do you mean something else by cover action? Do you have any reason to think that your target will be protected or roleblocked beyond that (the roleblocked would be surprising at this point.) Do you know if the hammer recipient will allow those adjacent to them in the vote count to avoid redirects as well?

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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:05 am

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Hey Zorblag, me and Fate hate each other.

If that doesn't disprove your cult theory I don't know what does d(''d).
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:10 am

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@MO: You used those investigation two slots above the intended target, yes?
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:30 am

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Blaze wrote:Because I hate Parama.
I'M IN LOVE.

We need to converge some damn wagons. We have people sitting on the DarkStalker wagon STILL even though that's so out of style. Especially with ooba on that wagon.

Iec is obvscum and I don't know why people want to let him live, but *shrug* I could see him as scum with manho using his "secret towntell" as an excuse not to bus. Then there's this wagon on Chronopie

Which Troll asked me about
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1. Claimed when he did
2. Claimed WHAT he did
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:44 am

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So ... Blaze comes into a QT and asks ... who he should kill? That does not seem good no matter what angle you try to look at it from. Even if he's just in over his head, I don't see how asking who to kill makes him pro-town if he is not a vig.

I believe the alignment cop thing though so I'm trying to figure out how those two pieces of info jive. It's possible Blaze is the godfather, I guess. I'm pretty torn on this right now, because that just seems blatantly anti-town, but that's up against an innocent result on him.

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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:57 am

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Fate wrote:
Blaze wrote:Because I hate Parama.
I'M IN LOVE.
Fate, I see a beautiful friendship among us. :D
Katy wrote:So ... Blaze comes into a QT and asks ... who he should kill? That does not seem good no matter what angle you try to look at it from. Even if he's just in over his head, I don't see how asking who to kill makes him pro-town if he is not a vig.

I believe the alignment cop thing though so I'm trying to figure out how those two pieces of info jive. It's possible Blaze is the godfather, I guess. I'm pretty torn on this right now, because that just seems blatantly anti-town, but that's up against an innocent result on him.

@Blaze
: Why did you ask who to kill in the QT? What did you mean by that question?
Seems like a good question as a replacement. I just wanted to know whos the mafia, are men fighting the gods, or is it just jumbled up (men and Gods vs Men and Gods) or (Norse vs Egyptians vs Old Ones vs Greek) I really didn't see whats the objective of this game.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:01 am

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Fate wrote:
Blaze wrote:Because I hate Parama.
We need to converge some damn wagons. We have people sitting on the DarkStalker wagon STILL even though that's so out of style. Especially with ooba on that wagon.

Iec is obvscum and I don't know why people want to let him live, but *shrug* I could see him as scum with manho using his "secret towntell" as an excuse not to bus. Then there's this wagon on Chronopie
Now idk about Iec, but I think hes scummy town. Because I'm town, I'm guessing starbuck (he did this b4 I came into the game) believes hes town because he had cover action on Iec, so idk his alignment

for now

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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:41 am

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we got the iso back!!! will iso TNM and DS soon. iec and chrono is town. fate is scum. nikanor may be fate's scum buddy.
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:41 am

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1. @ Faraday, you said you'd read GM something like a month ago, and that you wanted to do it to get Mina/ooba/Iec meta. You didn't do it. Maybe you had some set-backs in there somewhere (sorry for your loss), but it nonetheless looks like you weren't as interested in getting that meta as you had intimated. Indignation when someone points out a scummy thing as scummy does not follow.

2. Flipscythe is Ortolan. I'd forgotten about Katy's innocent result on him, so I put him there because it's two people who won't play the game on a slot consecutively. And O's crap play was enough to get him lynchwasted.

3. @ Blaze, a Godfather is a role that checks innocent even though they're not. That's why people are speculating you might be the Godfather.

4. Also, you should probably get confirmation from the Mod about how your ability works, since your explanations aren't clear at all, if only because it would annoy me if they did something off later on and you used the "I didn't know it worked that way" card.

5. Why do you think I'm scummy? Just because some players think I'm scummy?

6. @ Fate, it's ooba's secret towntell, not mine. You can be pretty confident that I'm otherwise not feeling good things about manho because after ooba posted his town/scum list, the first thing I said was "Nice list. Why is manho town?"
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:42 am

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May
be? If I'm scum Nika's DEFINITELY my buddy are you reading the thread?
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:43 am

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manho wrote:fate is town. nikanor may be fate's town buddy.
FTFY.
ooba hasn't posted in about a week(?) so his secret towntell on manho doesn't count.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:44 am

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STOP POSTING THE SAME TIME AS ME GET BACK IN THE GODDAMNED QT
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:15 am

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Fate, did you just claim that you're the only two players in the QT? Cuz. That's not what I had assumed.
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:16 am

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Parama and I share a QT.

Nikanor and I share a QT of 6.

They are separate.
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:17 am

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Iecerint wrote:1. @ Faraday, you said you'd read GM something like a month ago, and that you wanted to do it to get Mina/ooba/Iec meta. You didn't do it. Maybe you had some set-backs in there somewhere (sorry for your loss), but it nonetheless looks like you weren't as interested in getting that meta as you had intimated. Indignation when someone points out a scummy thing as scummy does not follow.
Hey, answer why it's scummy. I mean what I couldn't have read the game (as scum) and said 'nah your play there isn't comparable and it doesn't change my mind about you'? Isn't that easier, to I don't know read it and stuff as scum than stall? I don't get why what you pointed out is scummy, really.And I just stated I wasn't as interested in getting the meta, I wasn't able to keep up with the games I was IN so reading other games was never gonna happen. I'll get as indignant as I like if I feel I'm being called out on craplogics.

Anyway I'll read it when I get round to it as I said, I don't really care to discuss it any longer though.
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:18 am

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Would also like Blaze to at least learn what his role is so he can use it semi effectively.
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:20 am

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Hmmm, oh fuck.

Mod I claimed that Nikanor is my buddy not my
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:28 am

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Fate wrote:Nikanor and I share a QT of 6.
What a wonderfully convenient number!
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:42 am

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Iecerint wrote: 3. @ Blaze, a Godfather is a role that checks innocent even though they're not. That's why people are speculating you might be the Godfather.

4. Also, you should probably get confirmation from the Mod about how your ability works, since your explanations aren't clear at all, if only because it would annoy me if they did something off later on and you used the "I didn't know it worked that way" card.

5. Why do you think I'm scummy? Just because some players think I'm scummy?
3. I knew that, but what would the flavor of that be, can someone really say for example, Apollo (Greek sun god, if you didn't know) was a GF instead of Zeus, if so, than the flavor of that makes no fucking sense. Can anyone teach me a little Norse mythology and tell me who the king of the norse gods are?

4. Read bottom

5. Yes, I think your scummy, I believe that your scummy because your pushing the townie role a wee bit too far with these posts, or so I believe.
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