Of Gods And Men (GAME OVER!)

[DTMaster]

Fuck. Checking in.

[Plum]

@Plum: 975
"I have info which suggests that DTM is not the Modified Survivor, actually."
I would like Plum to elaborate on this

Yeah so said info is that, uh,

I'm the Modified Survivor

. Given my Modification, I think I'm safe enough saying this. And no, my modification has nothing to do with killing and everything to do with giving a Survivor a bigger chance of surviving in a large game (in general, the role itself is inherently just as neutral as a regular survivor, with no abilities that could really cause it to swing much in either direction besides the flow of the game itself). I'd rather not claim my modification now but only say that it should be able to confirm my role. I've been scumhunting sincerely all game, having nothing else to try. But anyway, scum won't be targeting me much because I'm not someone they have to get rid of and I'm threatless to them. Town I'm trying to help with what I can, which is Daygame-related only, I'm afraid. In any case I can win with y'all and it'll be like old times. I'd really rather you not lynch me, for obvious reasons but also because I'm not a threat but Mafia and Cult are.

Sorry Fate if you think I'm a bad survivor. I'm just trying to survive and given my modification it ought to be a valid strategy to help fulfill my win condition.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There you have it.

[Plum]

Yes. Have I increased your joy, ABR?

[Nikanor]

I'm still voting tnm? Good.

[Katy]

Ugh, I had some days off (adn I hate getting on the internet on my days off) and when I did check the board it was when the server was being transferred). Am trying to catch up again and will post when I am done, prob tomorrow.

I'm intrigued by the Chronopie arguments so I'm definitely taking a look back at that because I've kind of missed him in the noise.

I wasn't really doubting ABR's census, but I guess that kind of proves it. I've never played in a game with this kind of mechanic before, is it a regular night action, like will we be able to keep a running tally on alignments in the game?

[BlazezRb]

MOD: Revote Count????

[Fate]

LOL FUCKING SWEET WE GET TO LYNCH GUARANTEED 3RD PARTY:

UNVOTE
VOTE: PLUM

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO CLAIM THAT WILL HELP TOWN NOWS YOUR CHANCE.

[Plum]

LOL FUCKING SWEET WE GET TO LYNCH GUARANTEED 3RD PARTY:

UNVOTE
VOTE: PLUM

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO CLAIM THAT WILL HELP TOWN NOWS YOUR CHANCE.

*headdesk*

Uh. Dude. A lynch of me is an absolute and complete waste of the Town's resources. Not only is it a lynch guaranteed

not

to hit scum, it's also a lynch completely devoid of information value for the Town. We've already had one Day where the lynch had way too little info payoff (Ort yesterday because it went to no-Lynch). If you want me offed, it's be more advantageous all around if you ordered Snowy to NK me and used the lynch more productively, anyway. If I just claimed SK, sure, I'd deserve lynching. But I'm Non-Hostile third-party and I don't need Town to lose to achieve my win condition. Not only that, but unless someone stupid decides to try to counterclaim me (hint: won't happen), it is basically confirmed by ABR's census-type ability that I'm a Modified Survivor. Unless you don't believe me that Modified Survivor = basic Survivor wincon + a bonus to help achieve it in a Large Theme game and that I'm an SK variant, a lynch of me is really not in your best interests.

[Fate]

If you promise you aren't NK-immune we could just do it that way, yes.

But either way you have to die. I'm NOT playin this "uhh I'm just tryin' to help town" bullshit.

[Plum]

Do you want to lynch/kill scum or do you want to lynch/kill confirmed non-scum non-threat of questionable general scumhunting value? You may not believe that I'm trying to help the Town but it's fairly conclusive that I'm not pro-scum and I'm not a threat. Town has Cult and Mafia to deal with. Bigger fish to fry, as they say. I've helped out by claiming. I won't promise anything about my degree of NK-immunity or lack thereof but should anyone care to try it would probably only further confirm my status as Modified Survivor at this point.

[Fate]

Won't promise? Not town?

Oh yeah, you're getting fucking lynched.

[Fate]

"everything to do with giving a Survivor a bigger chance of surviving in a large game "-your ability.

I rather deal with you now than later. Plus lynching a survivor will give us a LOT of information, trust me.

Trust me.

I mean, PERSONALLY you should be modkilled for essentially claiming scum way before your win condition was even close to being fulfilled or even in danger, but meh, every mod is different and I guess this would be a viable strategy.

If I wasn't in this game.

[Plum]

Please, Fate, the denigration: I have not claimed scum, by a long shot, and there's reasonable basis for not implementing the 'shoot third-party on sight' for reasons I've discussed.

How will lynching a Survivor give you info? Town gains most, info-wise, lynching suspects of unconfirmed alignments. I'm not confirmed, but claiming something other than Town generally cuts down the info-level. Of course, were I scum, this would be an entirely different matter.

Look, I see you're not going to be swayed by argument, reasonable, logical, or otherwise, so I'll continue this discussion when others have shown up and commented.

[Fate]

I know you're biased cause lynching you is your loss, but there is much to be gained from your lynch, I know other players won't need it spelled out for them.

Oh and before I forget:
FINALLY someone calls for me NK, thanks Papa Z.

"Look, I see you're not going to be swayed by argument, reasonable, logical, or otherwise, so I'll continue this discussion when others have shown up and commented."

Oh ok, I'M being unreasonable because I want to lynch the survivor. "so I'll continue this discussion when others have shown up and commented." <- exactly. *cackles*

[Plum]

Dude. You're going to gain what from my lynch which wouldn't be better spent trying to lynch actual scum?

I'm open to discussing stuff, but much more talking between us right now will end up pointless rehashing.

[Fate]

You're right, the line in the sand is drawn.

CEPT I'M TOWN AND YOU'RE NOT. I WONDER WHO WILL WIN?

[Plum]

Neither or us has to lose, you know.

[Fate]

So I should trust you because you're a confirmed survivor?

A POT IS STILL BLACK, KETTLE?

[Plum]

What?

Um, yes you should trust me not to be scum due to ABR's claimed census ability. What do you specifically not trust me about?

[Nikanor]

Fate, stop voting Plum.
Did you see me vote for her? No. I posted specifically to say that I was keeping my vote on tnm. If I'm not voting her, you shouldn't be voting her.
And yes I know this post makes Fate and I look like scumbuddies.

[Fate]

And here I was counting on you for a vote.

KEEP IT TO THE FUCKIN QT NIKA. I SAID WE COULD PILE ON PLUM AS A PRO-LOOKIN-TOWN GAMBIT

[Fate]

What?

Um, yes you should trust me not to be scum due to ABR's claimed census ability. What do you specifically not trust me about?

I trust you to be realclaiming.

I don't trust you as a survivor.

We clear?

[Nikanor]

Shut up already.
Will you hurry up and bandwagon TNM or something?

[Fate]

I rather lynch 100% non-town, 99% isn't good enough for me you nublet.