Harry Potter Mafia - Over!

[farside22]

farside: who do you think is more likely to be scum based on their current activity level and past performance: raj or Sudo?

Do you think they are scum together? Why or why not?

I always assume one scum group in games this size till night comes in. I always assume a SK with 12 or more just because it's how I can be as a mod.
That said I just find Sudo and raj scum for seperate reason's. Could they be scum together? It's hard to say when they don't really say anything about the other I lean more yes on this.
Sudo just rings scum with every word he writes. I would vote raj just for lack of input (which goes for most people in this game) It's why my vote hasn't moved from Sudo so far.

Kmd: I disagree with your list but I can see your points on FG. Not completely but I put him down to an IGMEO category. I see sudo/raj/??/insert another lurker (fuzzy?) here.

[Kmd4390]

Mac, it's more that your entire play is about "HEY GUYS, I'M A MILLER, VIG ME". You should probably post actual game content not related to your claim once in a while. Then there's that activity check you tried to pass off as a scum list. And the "who, me?" thing I brought up earlier. And I think you misrepped Espeonage when you said he was "clearing townies left and right". Looking at his posts, he has exactly two times where he names a town read, and neither of them seems to be "clearing" those players.

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Farside, do you think you are playing to your town meta?

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I should prolly update my list by the way.

Town:
Kmd
MMM
FakeGod
Espeonage

Town, but not as town as above town:
ooba
Nobody Special
farside

*Shrug*:
jmj
IH
MPR
Fuzzy
Sera

Scum, but not as scum as below scum:
Sudo
rajkdjsafhadjkls

Scum:
Reap
Mac

[ReaperCharlie]

So... in essence, you're chainsaw defending FakeGod? Noted.

[rajrhcpfreak]

Scum:
Reap
Mac

agreed lets move this on and get a claim.

[ReaperCharlie]

Uh, what? You've contributed like, NOTHING to the game, raj2457wfhsdfjh. All you've done is sheep kmd, and lurk blatantly.

And how is it pro-town to push for a claim? Especially at what, L-4?

[Sudo_Nym]

Uh, what? You've contributed like, NOTHING to the game, raj2457wfhsdfjh. All you've done is sheep kmd, and lurk blatantly.

And how is it pro-town to push for a claim? Especially at what, L-4?

Not to put too fine a point on it, but QFT. I went back to look at rajie in ISO, and he's got 7 posts, only 1 of which is longer than 3 sentences. If anything, I get the distinct impression he's a scum lurking, posting just often enough to avoid prodding.

This is a time when I do feel strongly enough to

vote: rajrhcpfreak

[Kmd4390]

So... in essence, you're chainsaw defending FakeGod? Noted.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing.

[ReaperCharlie]

I KNEW IT!!!! I caught scum, guyz!!!!!!

Seriously though, now you're making me think you really DO think he's town.
It makes absolutely no sense for you to defend him like that if either of you are scum. Uggghhh

Unvote; vote: rajrhcpfreak

-- Now there's a vote I feel

awesome

about.

[rajrhcpfreak]

just like you caught scum in the last game we were in together?

i thought that you would have caught on to the way i play.
no need to bandwagon me and out a protown role, lets continue the wagon on Reaper who is by far the scummiest person.

oh and kmd, you might want to move sudo down there with reaper with him waiting for sudo to vote and give him motmentum.

its pro town for someone to push for a claim when we only have 7 days before the deadline. a week is still enough time to get 2-3 more votes. then you claim. and if you have a decent claim we can rethink killing you. plently of time to play but i dont want a quick lynch because we are running out of time. scum would want the lynch to be at the last min and/or without a claim.

ps. i know its an oxymoron for me to claiming about the activity. but for a 16 player game we have been very slow on content and talking so i really think a claim and 7 days before will be good for discussion and activity.

pss. it also looks like reaper is looking for farside to bless my wagon as good but im pretty sure the sudo's tag team with him should deter her some.

@farside. sorry about not being a little lurkerish and flaky, but im here and i back into the game. the MMM replacement really screwed up my thinking. making it hard to go in the right direction.

[Kmd4390]

Rajkdjsfhdjsakg, isn't that scummier on Reap's part than Sudo's? How can you blame Sudo for Reap following him?

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I wouldn't be against Reap claiming. Not that we've had a vote count any time recently, but I don't think he's real close to a lynch. However, his wagon clearly has the most momentum and I think it's nearly a forgone conclusion that he ends up being pushed to a claim today, so may as well get it out of the way now so we can either TURBOLYNCH or find someone better to lynch.

[farside22]

@Kmd: I would say till my computer (internet) issue's occured I was living up to my town meta.
@Raj: Your last post is the best you have so far and yet I see no scum hunting or reasoning in your post.

@ those voting Raj I don't like Sudo. It hasn't changed and the sudden shift in that direction is just trying to get out of trying to scum hunt.

@ all posting 10 to 1 Sens has flaked.

[ReaperCharlie]

just like you caught scum in the last game we were in together?

somehow I knew you'd bring that up, and somehow I think that's your reason for voting me here too. cross-game vendettas FTL.

no need to bandwagon me and out a protown role, lets continue the wagon on Reaper who is by far the scummiest person.

you seem pretty eager to stop any potential wagon on you in its tracks. which I don't think is inherently scummy when coming from town, but the way you are saying it is... off.
the soft claim does not help a bit either. you sound like nervous scum here.

And would you mind explaining, why and how am I the scummiest person??? by ANY stretch?
1. I am participating, which is more than you can say for half the players.
2. I am scumhunting, which is more than you can say for 2/3 the players.
3. I have a wagon on me... started for reasons that... no longer exist?

oh and kmd, you might want to move sudo down there with reaper with him waiting for sudo to vote and give him motmentum.

Do you not agree that I have an excellent reason to unvote FakeGod? Do you not agree that I have an excellent reason for voting you?

its pro town for someone to push for a claim when we only have 7 days before the deadline. a week is still enough time to get 2-3 more votes. then you claim. and if you have a decent claim we can rethink killing you. plently of time to play but i dont want a quick lynch because we are running out of time. scum would want the lynch to be at the last min and/or without a claim.

This is all a matter of opinion, which can be skewed any way you want to make yourself seem pro-town.

ps. i know its an oxymoron for me to claiming about the activity. but for a 16 player game we have been very slow on content and talking so i really think a claim and 7 days before will be good for discussion and activity.

oooorrrrr, it could easily out a town pr, which obviously is not pro-town, no matter HOW you spin it. it gives scum an advantage in knowing who to pick off.
not saying i am a town pr, but ... it's your

motives

behind trying to get a claim that interest me.

pss. it also looks like reaper is looking for farside to bless my wagon as good but im pretty sure the sudo's tag team with him should deter her some.

ok first, why would I be looking for farside's approval?

and second, I don't see how you get that my vote for you is looking for farside's approval. IF i was looking for farside's approval, wouldn't I vote for sudo instead of agreeing with him on a vote? after all, that's the case she's been championing for the last ... oh, TEN or so pages.

In the immortal words of Captain Jack Sparrow,
"Now you're not making any sense at all."

[Espeonage]

"I wash my hands of this weirdness."

Question: Why am I town. I forgot about this game until I saw that a name I barely knew was in my watched topics so I checked it out.

Sorry guyz. Imma do a reread tonight.

[ooba]

Catching up

[Kmd4390]

@Kmd: I would say till my computer (internet) issue's occured I was living up to my town meta.

Were you trying to play that way?

@ all posting 10 to 1 Sens has flaked.

I had him on AIM the other night asking for a vote count and he said he'd have one up the next day. He also said we could bug Cow for one, so maybe that would be the way to go.

[hasdgfas]

I had him on AIM the other night asking for a vote count and he said he'd have one up the next day. He also said we could bug Cow for one, so maybe that would be the way to go.

Don't worry guys, I got this. Sens will have no access the rest of the week

Vote Count

ReaperCharlie - 6 (fuzzylightning, Espeonage, MacavityLock, ooba, rajrhcpfreak, kmd4390)
Sudo_Nym - 2 (farside22, Seraphim)
rajrchpfreak - 2 (Sudo_Nym, ReaperCharlie)
Mysterious Mystery Man - 1 (MehPlusRawr)
Nobody Special - 1 (IH)
Seraphim - 1 (Mysterious Mystery Man)

Not Voting - 3 (FakeGod, jmj3000, Nobody Special)

9 to lynch

[ReaperCharlie]

If you're voting for me, please give your reason.

[Kmd4390]

Sweet, thanks Cow.

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Reap, my reasoning is scattered all over my ISO.

[ReaperCharlie]

If I wanted "look at what I posted already" I wouldn't have asked. Tell me here, now, succinctly.

[Kmd4390]

Ok.

-Started out posting non-content
-When called on non-content, you posted the "lame attempt" post just to appear to be posting content.
-misrepped my callout of the above
-laughed off my case and joke voted well after everyone was done with the RVS
-When I made real points, but also included jokes, you chose to respond to the jokes and ignore the points
-I forget who it was, but you called someone out for using only the scumtell of lack of activity when at the time, you were doing the exact same thing
-Then there's the whole FakeGod thing where you call him on lurking and vote him while admitting there are worse offenders of the exact same thing.
-When I point out the above point, you say call it a chainsaw defense of FakeGod
-The glasses on your avatar diasappear too quickly

[ReaperCharlie]

-Started out posting non-content
-When called on non-content, you posted the "lame attempt" post just to appear to be posting content.
-misrepped my callout of the above
-laughed off my case and joke voted well after everyone was done with the RVS
-When I made real points, but also included jokes, you chose to respond to the jokes and ignore the points

-Everyone starts with non-content. It's called RVS
-Nobody called me out, I did that on my own - before your 'call out'.
-I made that post to get MYSELF out of RVS because I know I spend to long in it. If you need evidence of that, refer to my joke omgus vote.
-What 'real' points of yours did I ignore, when you claim I responded only to jokes?

-how closely did you read my post 121, anyway?

-I forget who it was, but you called someone out for using only the scumtell of lack of activity when at the time, you were doing the exact same thing

If you're going to bring this argument, bring facts, not "I forget who it was"

-Then there's the whole FakeGod thing where you call him on lurking and vote him while admitting there are worse offenders of the exact same thing.

-He's who I noticed when I decided to vote. Ergo, I voted him. Problem?

-When I point out the above point, you say call it a chainsaw defense of FakeGod

so? that's exactly what it looks like! lol, are you saying it didn't

look like this?

cause that's exactly what I thought of, first thing.

-The glasses on your avatar diasappear too quickly

huh? what glasses? 0_o

[Kmd4390]

lmao

Aye, that I am, lassie!

QFT. I totally wanna go back and re-read them! Can't wait for the first half of Hallows this winter! Who's flying out to my house to watch it with me?

We should make a rule that you have to dim the lights and play HP music in the background when you read this topic, and read everything out loud in the accent of your character.

MMM already with five votes, and we're only just past Page 1... hmmmmm, looks like

somebody

must have pissed off the fanboiz ^_^

I sincerely hope this level of activity can be sustained throughout the entire game, I love games where people are actually active!

Expelliarmus: MMM

for posting that ridiculous article.

Fixed.

Oh, the irony.

Happy birthday, rajwfelkflkj!

Aw, you ruined it. Now I actually know what it stands for and can't just keymash in ignorant bliss every time I try to say his name.

A hex upon you.

(I cut quotes in your posts for readability)

RVS- Random voting stage. Random/Joke votes to begin the game. Helps the game progress.

Which of these quotes are RVS and which are just pointless?

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Oh, right. My bad. You made that post before I got to the game. But still, I'm pretty sure non-content had been brought up as an issue. I think Farside had brought it up.

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By real points, I mean the points that were in the post with the Anchorman reference. And yes, that's where you responded to the jokes and not the points.

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121, I read every word of. That was the "lame attempt" post, right? It basically used a lot of words to say a whole lot of nothing.

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It doesn't matter who it was. It doesn't make the point any less true. Respond to it.

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So why not change the vote when you realized that, oh I dunno, HALF THE GAME was doing exactly what you were voting him for? It took until Sudo's vote for you to switch.

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I know what a chainsaw defense is, but I'm pretty sure FakeGod and I would have to both be scum for it to be a chainsaw defense. I know I'm not and I'm pretty sure he isn't.

And again, wouldn't it be a good idea to reevaluate your own stance when YOU EVEN ADMIT there are worse offenders? You acknowledge that I am right and yet continue to attack me for it.

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huh? what glasses? 0_o

[rajrhcpfreak]

Rajkdjsfhdjsakg, isn't that scummier on Reap's part than Sudo's? How can you blame Sudo for Reap following him?

your right.
after he flips scum i guess he should move down.

his wagon clearly has the most momentum and I think it's nearly a forgone conclusion that he ends up being pushed to a claim today, so may as well get it out of the way now so we can either TURBOLYNCH or find someone better to lynch.

thats why i made my comments. just pointing it out to remind people that im not the only one.

@Raj: Your last post is the best you have so far and yet I see no scum hunting or reasoning in your post.

yeah by the time i came back to this thread to find a new person to replace MMM on my scumdar the only one i could find is Reaper. the rest is just average especially because of the lurkers (i know im one of them). so i basicly outlined my views so everyone knows where i stand and support the case that kmd already posted since there isnt much more.

you seem pretty eager to stop any potential wagon on you in its tracks. which I don't think is inherently scummy when coming from town, but the way you are saying it is... off.
the soft claim does not help a bit either. you sound like nervous scum here.

why should a townsperson allow a wagon pile up on themselves? knowingly letting people vote for you and starting a bangwagon just wastes time and and sidetracks the town. but you even admit that this is not inherently scummy. nervous scum or powerrole wanting to avoid being screwed twice in one week.

Do you not agree that I have an excellent reason to unvote FakeGod? Do you not agree that I have an excellent reason for voting you?

isnt the reason your voting FakeGod is because hes lurking/not participating? but as soon as i participate i get a OMGUS vote.

its pro town for someone to push for a claim when we only have 7 days before the deadline. a week is still enough time to get 2-3 more votes... scum would want the lynch to be at the last min and/or without a claim.

This is all a matter of opinion, which can be skewed any way you want to make yourself seem pro-town.

if you want to skew it your way im atleast going to skew it my way.[/quote]

ps. i know its an oxymoron for me to claiming about the activity. but for a 16 player game we have been very slow on content and talking so i really think a claim and 7 days before will be good for discussion and activity.

oooorrrrr, it could easily out a town pr, which obviously is not pro-town, no matter HOW you spin it. it gives scum an advantage in knowing who to pick off.
not saying i am a town pr, but ... it's your

motives

behind trying to get a claim that interest me.

so you think we shouldnt bandwagon the scummist person?
if that person is scummy they deserve votes and if they have to claim they need to claim. its their own fault by playing horrible. when you are a pro town player especially a power role it is their responsibility to play to the best of their ability.
it doesnt matter if it outs a power role or not, because we cant be thinking that we cant vote for [insert sn] because they might be a cop, but they are not acting very pro town.
so if we bandwagon someone does that mean we have to lynch them after they claim so the scum wont have any information?

btw: it almost sounds like you are soft claiming here too, same thing you excuse me of.

ok first, why would I be looking for farside's approval?

and second, I don't see how you get that my vote for you is looking for farside's approval. IF i was looking for farside's approval, wouldn't I vote for sudo instead of agreeing with him on a vote? after all, that's the case she's been championing for the last ... oh, TEN or so pages.

because people respect her and havnt said that shes scummy. so if you convince her more undecided townspeople might look at your views and favorably too.

and second, not if sudo is your partner.

[ReaperCharlie]

@ kmd: here is the post you are saying I didn't answer?

Reap, that is a massive

erection

misrep of what I said. I said that you weren't adding anything to the game at first, then once you attempted to appear to be posting content, it was pretty much lame one-liners, non-opinions, or stating the obvious. Not really content. Just trying to look good.

I don't consider it content because there isn't much actual substance to it.

rajkdjldsgjl is what he is because that's what I feel like calling him. He will be rajkdjsgklasd for the entire time that I am alive in this game. Because it's more fun to type rajkldsgmjakl than to actually do it right.

And seriously? I lay a vote on you and you laugh it off and OMGUS me? Seriously?

What real questions are in there for me? Yes, I seriously laughed your vote off and OMGUSd you. Anything else?

yeah by the time i came back to this thread to find a new person to replace MMM on my scumdar the only one i could find is Reaper. the rest is just average especially because of the lurkers (i know im one of them).

so the only one you could find scummier than MMM was me?

so i basicly outlined my views so everyone knows where i stand and support the case that kmd already posted since there isnt much more.

there isn't much more? try reading 181-183. THANKS.

imo there's plenty of reason to vote you, you haven't even tried to play the game besides sheeping other people's votes (namely, on the biggest wagon). you're so scummy it hurts my brain.

ok first, why would I be looking for farside's approval?

and second, I don't see how you get that my vote for you is looking for farside's approval. IF i was looking for farside's approval, wouldn't I vote for sudo instead of agreeing with him on a vote? after all, that's the case she's been championing for the last ... oh, TEN or so pages.

because people respect her and havnt said that shes scummy. so if you convince her more undecided townspeople might look at your views and favorably too.

ok moron, my question was: HOW DOES VOTING THE SAME WAY SUDO IS VOTING = SUCKING UP TO FARSIDE? IF ANYTHING, IT'S THE OPPOSITE.

3/4 of your reply to my post is either nonsensical or ignores the point of what I was saying.

so I reiterate the parts that were actually questions, and let everyone else read your post and SEE THAT YOU ARE PURPOSELY IGNORING THE POINTS I'M MAKING:

1. Do you not agree that I have an excellent reason to unvote FakeGod? Yes/No
2. Do you not agree that I have an excellent reason for voting you? Yes/No

@Raj: Your last post is the best you have so far and yet I see no scum hunting or reasoning in your post.

QFT

^no, that's not me sucking up to farside

[farside22]

Mod: Can you prod people that have not posted in the last 4 days please!?

Will have more tomorrow. Sorry