Of Gods And Men (GAME OVER!)

[Iecerint]

It should be clear from what was said yesterday anyhow but at this point I'll make it official that I've got a quick topic with Mina.

Where's this?

Al, d'ya think Sky's the cult leader (y/n/m)?

Reminding Al.

[Mighty Orbots]

@Iecerint, there's no single place that we breadcrumbed the quick topic in particular but it's clear enough in the conversations that we had with Plum and SpyreX throughout day one (in particular the conversation I had with SpyreX about the day talking) that people should have been picking up on the possibility. Assuming scum has at least one fairly observant player on their team (and there's no reason to think otherwise) they should have had some idea of the connection. With Mina essentially out of it for now and with information to pass on this was the right time to bring it out in the open so that town had the information to work with.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Iecerint]

Please claim whether or not there's at least 1 other person in your QT. That way (assuming the answer is yes) I'll know that the risk of shenanigans is low.

Or explicitly refuse to do so if this is no good.

And/Or give me the narrative from D1 that you're talking about. Mina having a QT without daytalk was pretty clear, but her link to you (other than that you defended her, which doesn't quite indicate a shared QT) is something I didn't notice yesterday.

D'ya know whether Mina'll still be able to post in the QT at Night?

[Iecerint]

I just ctrl+f Mina'd your iso, and I get that you understood that Mina had a QT without daytalk (as I'd already understood), but I picked up on that on my own, too, so....

Meh, forget I asked anything. Probability of shenanigans is fairly low. There's a chance Mina can come back, anyway, in which case he'd be screwed. There's always the chance that he knows she can't come back or whatever, but ye know.

Did Mina give you any of her would-be ABR post N1?

[Mighty Orbots]

At this point I don't believe that it helps the town to know whether or not Mina and I are the only two in the quick topic. Should that change I'll claim one way or the other.

Posts 683 and 687 (where I'm talking to SpyreX) should have been something of an indication. Additionally my initial interpretation of Papa Zito's comment to Plum in Post 759 was that he was telling both SpyreX and Plum that we shared a quick topic with Mina (based on Mini 856 which I had read) but it turns out that he had something slightly different in mind.

I expect that Mina will not be able to talk in the quick topic while she's in Limbo. I expect to find that out for sure tonight (assuming she's still there.) I don't have any idea why she's in Limbo now. So far as I know it isn't by her own doing.

Mina actually made her Albert B. Rampage post (at least what I thought was it) as Post 897. Perhaps she intended something else and I do know that she expressed suspicion of him in the quick topic but not with any particularly useful details.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Mighty Orbots]

@Tar, nevermind this bit:

If somebody else gets rid of the Mafia Godfather within three days, I become town.

Because SaintKerrigan is dead and I'm still in the game. Next question?

Zorblag reminded me that you don't have to lynch the Godfather, just off him somehow. Just to clarify though, does it count if you're on his lynch?

vote: chronopie

Ah, that's better.

@Mod: Is this correct?

4 manho ( 2 ) [ 11 ] - manho

[manho]

@Mod: Is this correct?

4 manho ( 2 ) [ 11 ] - manho

it is correct.

[Mighty Orbots]

@manho, is the double voting related to your having more than one worship vote yesterday? Also, yesterday did your vote count at all? The vote counts make it a bit hard to tell but Beholder talked about fixing some mechanic and after that when you show up on the vote counts it's on a wagon of 5 people on Albatross which only gives CryMeARiver 4 votes.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Mighty Orbots]

EBWOP: By more than one worship vote I mean more than the normal amount for you.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Parama]

Okay I have time now.

#1 I'm V/LA though the mod didn't post it apparently.
#2 VasudeVa, claim. Now.
#3 I worshipped the Egyptians.
#4 If you guys want to make life a lot easier then worship JC today/tonight.

Not much else I can say right now. Also Fate is still 3rd party and Nikanor is still 3rd party as well.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hang on...

The bad news is that we are dealing with a cult. A "modified cult", to be specific; whatever that means. I suspect this cult is what Spyrex called the Endless.

And it appears that they have recruited last night because there are now 4 neutrals in the game.

There are 15 town, 4 neutrals and 6 scum in this game. Among these players currently in the game, there are 5 alignments in total. That means that besides the town and the mafia, we are dealing with a modified lyncher (likely Tar and DTM), the aforementioned modified cult, and a "modified survivor".

The good news is that if there are only 4 neutrals at the moment, the cult didn't succeed in recruiting anyone yesterday if you do the math.

I know you crossed that bit out after but when you say "there are now..." does that mean you knew what the setup was N1?

No I didn't.

[Iecerint]

Not much else I can say right now. Also Fate is still 3rd party and Nikanor is still 3rd party as well.

This is mathematically impossible, unless ABR is scum.

ABR, answer my question about Sky.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Al, d'ya think Sky's the cult leader (y/n/m)?

Definitely not.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't really answer to "Al"...that must be way I didn't see your query.

[Iecerint]

I see. I thought Sky being identified with the Cult Leader might indicate a way you could know him in spite of being town. And if the modified cult has restrictions with regard to who they can recruit (i.e. one version of "modified"), that would've contextualized his question regarding which of us was a specific rolename. <_<

[Nikanor]

I worshipped the gelatinous goo.
I would prefer if VasudeVa didn't claim for Paramascum.

Vote: Parama.

[ooba]

and for the 44 worship vots, 12 immortals with 1 vote each and 16 mortals with 2 votes should be the case. but i have 1 more vote than usual, so you need someone to have 1 less vote.

Fair enough about switching to Old ones.
Btw two questions for you
i) 1 more vote than usual or double the usual - there's a difference.
ii) While re-reading the game in the night, you focus on anyone in particular?

Btw believe the MO-Mina QT claim. Also MO - 44 fits the current theory of vote weightages I am going with - think its right.

Since Iece hasn't answered it,

@MO

- does the term "75%" hold any significance for you?

Parama, did you mean FlipScythe (who replaced Ortolan) instead of VV?

[Iecerint]

^ Sorry. I don't believe it's significant to me, no.

[Mighty Orbots]

#2 VasudeVa, claim. Now.

wut

Since Iece hasn't answered it, @MO - does the term "75%" hold any significance for you?

Should it?

You seem to be asking this at random.

[ooba]

#2 VasudeVa, claim. Now.

wut

Since Iece hasn't answered it, @MO - does the term "75%" hold any significance for you?

Should it?

You seem to be asking this at random.

I thought it might. But with Iece saying no, I guess not. Just a little theory I had going - If needed I'll explain this bit when we massclaim or something.

[totallynotmafia]

Damnit, I thought I read that players in limbo could be targetted by actions. Oh well, I think we can still utilise SB's NK to our advantage.

@MO: Is Mina confirmed town to you in any way?

[Iecerint]

/slap TNM

[totallynotmafia]

Ouch, why?

[Iecerint]

Given Mina's relatively obvtown play, the main information that would result from MO answering that question affirmatively (i.e. the only informative case) is that it greatly increases the probability that MO is confirmed town.

If MO is actually scum, it would be a lie, so the question is not useful in that case.
If MO is town, this information is most useful to scum, because town can't differentiate these two cases as easily.

[totallynotmafia]

Uhh...don't scum already know if MO is town? And once again I doubt if they were both scum that they would let it known they have a QT, but it's possible they aren't of the same allignment. It's just hard to believe that all these people with QTs are town, though I suppose we already know that's not the case with Tar's QT, and with Sky in your one.