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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:53 pm

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charter wrote:It's a reliable scumtell.

Picture this. I'm standing in front of you, holding an object. "This is a BRAND NEW FlubbleKlump, Model Z9000. It'll do your laundry, wash your hair, take out the garbage, walk your dog (even if you don't
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one!) and polish your shoes. Oh, take my word for it. It'll do all that."

You
telling me
it's a reliable scumtell does nothing for me. Zip, nada, zilch. Just like my FlubbleKlump, it may (or may not) do anything for you. Same difference.

Your logic, it fails you.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:04 pm

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Did you read the rest of my post? Where I explain why scum do it?
Do you think it's a protown tactic to threaten people with a kill for voting you?

Why do you think Buttonmen is scum? I can't find your reasoning for thinking that.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:05 pm

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Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
TheButtonmen Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:50 pm wrote:
....?

It was a random vote or fishing for reactions; it was a serious vote. What part of that doesn't make sense?

@SV:
Also if you want me lynched why aren't you voting me?
TheButtonmen Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:03 pm wrote:EBWOP: It wasn't a random vote or fishing for reactions; it was a serious vote.
Christ, scum, get lynched.
I'll be honest; I don't know what your trying to say here; but I'm glad to see you actually backing what you say up with a vote!
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:25 pm

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@charter: Yes, I can read. Doesn't mean your logic works.

As far as threatening, yes, I can see a person (in a vengeful) about to be lynched mentioning who they will likely kill if they get lynched.

@charter AND @buttonmen:

I'll say it v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y:

TBM is changing his story and waffling back and forth, back and forth about "it was a real vote." "No, it wasn't a real vote." "Yes, it was." "No, it wasn't."

Scum typically can't make up their mind.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:37 pm

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@SV:
Would quotes of me changing my story repeadtly be too much to ask for?

I voted for Charter because I had missed his precedding post; once I saw that line of thought was flawed I voted McG for reactions; he then made me quite content with parking my vote there.

If you think I've changed this story at all; please by all means get some quotes showing me doing so. Though this time please quote whole sentences; don't just quote bits and peices.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:59 pm

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You can't mistake my biology --
The way that we talk,
The way that we walk,
It's there in our thoughts --
We're gonna cause a controversy.


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- 1 - McGriddle
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- 2 - TheButtonmen, charter (L-1)

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N/A

With 5 living, it's 3 to lynch.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:29 pm

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I think I see what Shattered is running with here. Buttonmen mistyped in 65, and said "It was a random vote" and left the 'not' out. It's pretty clear that's what he meant, since he's said that like four times, pretty much verbatim.

It's ridiculous the extent to which Shattered is pushing this, but just more evidence to support that he's the Goon and McGriddle is the Godfather.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:33 pm

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Come on Fen; let's hammer McG and call it a game.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:40 pm

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charter wrote:I think I see what Shattered is running with here. Buttonmen mistyped in 65, and said "It was a random vote" and left the 'not' out. It's pretty clear that's what he meant, since he's said that like four times, pretty much verbatim.

It's ridiculous the extent to which Shattered is pushing this, but just more evidence to support that he's the Goon and McGriddle is the Godfather.
I see perfectly what S.V. is saying, how is "not" a typo, it's a whole word he left out. We can all say that everything is an accident. You sticking up for him and calling me GF and s.v. goon is making me think that you and thebuttonmen are a scum team together.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:18 pm

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TheButtonmen wrote:Come on Fen; let's hammer McG and call it a game.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:53 am

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Okay.

I don't like the pushiness of charter and Buttonmen. I can't help imagining them in a scum qt, gloating over how they will be able to convince me if they push a bit harder.

But I don't like SV and McG's reasoning on Buttonmen, I think it's a flimsy case, and seems to be merely echoing things I said earlier. Same with SV attack on charter's "reliable scumtell", it was the same thing I said at the bottom of page 2. And out of Buttonmen and charter, I actually find charter more scummy; I can't pinpoint quite why, but I think he has been more manipulative throughout the game.

Thanks to charter for pointing out the typo; but I still don't think Buttonmen fully answered the question on why he started a wagon on McGriddle instead of charter. At that early stage in the game, surely creating pressure on either player would be equally good, why show a preference? But I'm edging to give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume that it was more or less on a whim. I don't think it's too much of a scummy move.

Actually, I'd say DID say that you would vengekill TBM even if you thought he was town.
McGriddle, post 25 wrote:You do realize we only have one chance to lynch scum right? And
you're obviously who I am going to kill when I die
, so if you are not scum I suggest you stop pushing for a terrible lynch based off of nothing on page 1, unless you want to lose.
I don't think you are scum though
, because scum wouldn't do something that balsey at the beginning of the game.
Overall, I think SV and McGriddle have put forth a much weaker case. And if I'm wrong, at least McGriddle will have an opportunity make right.

Icerint, I unvoted charter in post 30, but I'll do it again now just to make sure.

Unvote; Vote: McGriddle
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:18 am

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Lynch count has been reached. Scene up shortly.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:20 am

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Should've known the plan of attack,
When he turned and he called me, "Baby."


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- 2 -ShatteredViewpoint, McGriddle
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McGriddle - 3 - TheButtonmen, charter, Fenchurch


"Alright, everyone," McGriddle began. "Let's work this out. If we all just --."
"Scum!" shrieked TheButtonmen.
"Scum," agreed charter.
Fenchurch hesitated for a moment. Then he shrugged. "Scum?"

McGriddle became more than a little nervous as he was forced onto the scaffold. So nervous that his perspiration ruined his disguise. By the time it was over, it was clear he was an imposter:


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McGriddle, Mafia Godfather Brian Higgins, has been lynched.
ShatteredViewpoint, Mafia Goon Miranda Cooper, has left the game.

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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:24 am

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Hi-Fives all around town!
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:25 am

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And GG scum; the lack of both a NK and the ability to bus has to really suck.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:25 am

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Wooohhoooooooo!!!!!
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:45 am

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Sorry McGriddle and Shattered Viewpoint, you were in a tough spot and got a bit unlucky there with the first wagon forming on the godfather.

Well done TheButtonmen and charter for being spot on with your voting; sorry for taking longer than you might have wanted to be convinced.

Thanks to Iecerint for modding, you did a solid job and I just realised I spelt your name wrong every time before this, sorry about that.

Thanks all, I really enjoyed this game and the pace was great, looking forward to playing more vengefuls in future.

Will post more in-depth comments later this evening perhaps!
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:07 am

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Fenchurch wrote:Sorry McGriddle and Shattered Viewpoint, you were in a tough spot and got a bit unlucky there with the first wagon forming on the godfather.

Well done TheButtonmen and charter for being spot on with your voting; sorry for taking longer than you might have wanted to be convinced.
Yeah us getting the Godfather first rather then the Goon made this a lot more easy then it would have otherwise been.

Heh I'm not complaining about the speed of the game at all; Page 4 win is good enough for me.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:13 am

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Good work town! Glad we didn't pussyfoot around for ten more pages.

Sorry Fenchurch about post 27, I was really rude, it was unnecessary, but I did feel that your reasoning was extremely flimsy and I was worried scum would latch on to it. I just wanted to quash it before that could happen.

Also, big thanks to Iecerint! The last few mods I've had for vengefuls have mutilated the modding job, to the point of ruining the game, but you were flawless (and I thought some of those quotes were funny).
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:22 am

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Game ends in 4 pages due to luck and idiocy lol
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:35 am

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charter wrote:Sorry Fenchurch about post 27, I was really rude, it was unnecessary, but I did feel that your reasoning was extremely flimsy and I was worried scum would latch on to it. I just wanted to quash it before that could happen.
That's okay; I did think at the time was a bit much but that wasn't why I backed off the case. I don't know if it is ever legitimate reasoning or not, but certainly in this game, the post logs and the fact there was daytalk meant there was nowt to support it.

I'm curious to know how much the daytalk was used by mafia. Are you two gonna post your topic?

What SV was saying... is it considered bad sportsmanship to meta people? I always assumed it was standard practice, if you had the time.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:02 am

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I hate you all.

:lol:

Good game, town. Lucky guess, at first, then we just couldn't pull out of the hole.

@Fen, I'm not sure whether it's considered bad sportsmanship or not (I guess all's fair, etc. etc.) but I just have this privacy fetish, and it rubs me wrong. No harm, no foul , though.

McG, I don't care if we post the QT. If you see this soon, go ahead and post it (if it's okay with Iecy).
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:14 am

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Thanks to everyone for playing. It was my first time modding, so please indicate (publicly or via PM) if anything in particular could be improved.

Mafia may post the QT if they so choose.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:05 am

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Thumbs up with the modding; timely accurate vote counts and no problems pre/during/post game as far as I could tell.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:06 am

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Fenchurch wrote: What SV was saying... is it considered bad sportsmanship to meta people? I always assumed it was standard practice, if you had the time.
Naw it's fine I meta people all the time; though I normally don't tell them as then they can change their playstyle.
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