Open 203: C/9 Mafia Wins!

[farside22]

vote count:

Wdat (1) Gheb
Lowell (5) Azelf, Gayle, lobsermania, Kunkstar, Nachomamma
Nachomamma (1) Lowell

Lowell - vanilla town - lynched today

Sorry I will have a better story later.
Night deadline is 72 hours from this post

[farside22]

Since trying to find a replacement for this game is difficult and Lowell had not information I asked him to replace for Wdajt and he agreed.

[farside22]

The mod with computer issues today is not happy.
The mafia sent a hit and demanded satisfaction of a day to start soon.
They were eager to take over the town and smelled victory at hand.

The town woken early by a blaring horn sound find lobsermania in the center of town shot in the head.
He was carrying with him his doctor bag and an I blame Lowell if I die tonight t-shirt.

The mafia seemed to hold no remorse and the smell of victory was that much closer.

lobestermania - doctor - killed night 3

Day 4 deadline is June 23, 2:00pm PST
with 7 alive it will take 4 to lynch

[farside22]

It might help the game if I unlock the thread.

[lobstermania]

Bah! I still blame Lowell....

[Nachomamma8]

OHAI.

Mod, I'd suggest sending out Day Start PMs because I didn't see this one start...

Game days started, scum. Time to face the music.

Alright, so right now, I'm feeling a second Lowell lynch or a Gheb lynch.

Lowell again just because it'd be funny if he got lynched, replaced back in, and then got lynched again.

Gheb due to post #646. He complains of an early hammer because he wants more discussion even though he had said that he was fine with the lynch before, and didn't have anything to say about it. When a game is stagnating to that extent, it's important to get it moving, somehow. I know you guys don't expect me to read through the entire game when you don't have any reads yourselves, and when you all don't have questions for me to answer...

Lowell, why don't you explain why my hammer was scummy?

[JacobSavage]

Yep, That would be a good idea

I would say first we should look closely at Nachomamma and Lowell. Any comments?

[Gayle]

Wjdat was most likely town, and so Lowell II is likely town. Azelf is also likely town considering for a while he was the only one bothering to do any scum hunting.

As far as I remember, JacobSavage was scummy. For some reason.

Vote: JacobSavage

I have a theory that I can make this kind of post and no one will call me out because no one is around.

[Azelf]

Alright, so right now, I'm feeling a second Lowell lynch or a Gheb lynch.

Lowell again just because it'd be funny if he got lynched, replaced back in, and then got lynched again.

DO IT.

Anyways, my time on the computer is a bit limited right now, so I'll read over everything and decide who I want lynched sometime this weekend.

In the meantime, I'm really not comfortable with someone who was already lynched being put back into the game, but I'm not uncomfortable enough to leave, so I guess I'll deal with it.

[Azelf]

Wjdat was most likely town, and so Lowell II is likely town. Azelf is also likely town considering for a while he was the only one bothering to do any scum hunting.

As far as I remember, JacobSavage was scummy. For some reason.

Vote: JacobSavage

I have a theory that I can make this kind of post and no one will call me out because no one is around.

EDBWOP: Didn't notice this last time.

Vote: Gayle

I like people to provide reasons for their votes.

[farside22]

prodding Lowell and Gheb

[Lowell]

Thank god I'm back. This time I'm unlynchable. Promise.

[Nachomamma8]

Any content to offer, Lowell?

Gayle, why was Wdjat town?

[Gayle]

Wdjat was town because he was doing the best and most aggressive scum hunting, enough even to annoy some folks. He was the most useful player in the game, period.

@Azelf: Go look back for whatever reasons I used to vote for JacobSavage the last time. In addition to that, the only possible scum (in my opinion, of course) are Kunk, Nacho (who replaced Hewitt), and Jacob. Nacho seems to be playing the game and is one of the few people keeping the game going. Kunk and Jacob are equally scummy, but Jacob is infinitely more useless.

Also, don't even try to pressure vote in this game. There is no one left that cares enough to be pressured.

[kunkstar7]

Also, don't even try to pressure vote in this game. There is no one left that cares enough to be pressured.

... >_>

No, I like the gheb wagon best. The blatant contradiction of being fine with the lynch then trying to throw mud afterwards is bad.

Vote: Gheb.

@JS: Why nacho and Lowell? I see no reasoning from you as to why we should look at them, and for what? Just looks like you want others to build the case for you.

[Azelf]

NOTE: From hereon, the pre-lynch Lowell will be referred to as "Lowell Mark I" while the after-lynch Lowell will be referred to as "Lowell Mark II".

Hopefully this will help eliminate confusion.

And now, synopsis as promised.

Wdjat was eh pretty cool guy back in the day, but since Lowell Mark II hasn't done anything particularly distinctive yet, I'll give him a neutral rating.

Gayle and Nachomamma both have pretty much the same general synopsis; they've been fairly active, speculated, and done some decent scumhunting. Faintly town vibes.

I agree with Kunkstar that JacobSavage needs to do a little bit of looking into those two people himself before he asks us to do it for him. Why would we investigate a pretty town person and someone who just replaced in without evidence that we need to?

Gheb is pretty much a lurker. Like Gayle, I find his suddenly being not OK with quickhammer after being fine with it before curious. Faintly scum.

Kunkstar was doing some pretty suspicious buddying with Lowell Mark I back in the "HEY LOOK I'M A COP LOLOLOLOL" period, but he gets a few town points for some recent scumhunting. Also faintly scum.

Overall, I like the Gheb wagon, due to how quickly he swung from being fine with Lowell's lynch to not being fine with it once he turned out to be town.

Until he explains this to us satisfactorily,

Vote: Gheb

Finally, Gayle, do you have any comment on the aforementioned issue with Gheb?

Please note that unless I've miscounted the amount of people in this round (7), Gheb is now at L-2.

[Gheb]

Sorry been out all weekend. Not getting the case on me.

Being fine with somebody's lynch =/= OK with somebody being lynched here and now. It's not a contradiction. Stop pseudo-hunting.

[Nachomamma8]

Being fine with somebody's lynch =/= OK with somebody being lynched here and now.

I don't understand this. If you're okay with a lynch, then you're okay with them being lynched... And why would when they were being lynched matter at all? It's not like you were making an effort to prod the game along at all...

@Gayle: Why is Ghebscum not possible? And if it isn't, then why aren't you making an effort to defend him?

@Lowell: Since you are the same person still... could you explain the end of the day comments that you were making?

[Azelf]

Sorry been out all weekend. Not getting the case on me.

Being fine with somebody's lynch =/= OK with somebody being lynched here and now. It's not a contradiction. Stop pseudo-hunting.

If you were OK with Lowell being lynched

at the exact time you claimed you were fine with his lynch

, as you suggested with that post, that would have been a heck of a lot of a faster lynch than what actually happened.

[Gayle]

@Nacho: Gheb being town is my opinion. He has been pretty straightforward the entire game, even if I don't often agree with his opinion.

If you think I am going to put any kind of effort into defending another player or argue against a case that doesn't concern me you are going to be disappointed. I'm going to state my suspicions and cast my vote. What everyone else does is up to them.

[Lowell]

No, I wont' be answering for any of LowellI's actions. That guy sucks.

[Gheb]

It's kind of hard to "prod a game along" when half of the people aren't just lurking but flat out inactive. And if I like push for a lynch against these people I'm suddenly suspect like me trying to get Wdjat lynched. It's lose / lose for me no matter what I do.

[Nachomamma8]

Now, try to see my position. I replace in. I ask people to explain their cases on people. They, for the most part, are unresponsive. There is a claimed cop at L-1, who has innocent results on two seperate people. Hammering him, if he was a cop, would have given us two confirmed townies to build around our cases around and start the next day with. If he were scum, we would've been down one scum (which is always a good thing). What else was I supposed to do to "prod along conversation"?


I like that Gheb has actually showed the guts to show up and try to explain himself... Honestly, I think he's town for it. I'm not sure about Lowell Mark II, but he hasn't really said anything overtly scummy yet.

JacobSavage, on the other hand, said a scummy comment in the beginning of the day and then just disappeared. So, he gets my vote.

Vote: JacobSavage

[Azelf]

@Nacho: Gheb being town is my opinion. He has been pretty straightforward the entire game, even if I don't often agree with his opinion.

If you think I am going to put any kind of effort into defending another player or argue against a case that doesn't concern me you are going to be disappointed. I'm going to state my suspicions and cast my vote. What everyone else does is up to them.

TRYING TO STOP TOWN FROM BEING LYNCHED: Totally not worth it.

It's kind of hard to "prod a game along" when half of the people aren't just lurking but flat out inactive. And if I like push for a lynch against these people I'm suddenly suspect like me trying to get Wdjat lynched. It's lose / lose for me no matter what I do.

You had no response to

If you were OK with Lowell being lynched

at the exact time you claimed you were fine with his lynch

, as you suggested with that post, that would have been a heck of a lot of a faster lynch than what actually happened.

which suggests that I'm right about you wanting him hammered then. Why are you not OK with a quicklynch but OK with a MUCH quicker quicklynch?

Also, the reason you were suspect was because you tried to get him lynched

without providing any good reason why.

[farside22]

prodding JacobSavage