Combine this with his spat with Drippereth, and you get Richard, the scummy-due-to-overconfident-rhetoric-lots-of-fighting-and-lacking-in-consistency-or-logic kind of arguments. This reminds me a lot of both Lamont Cranston in and AA23 in - both town-aligned players with infuriating and scummy attitudes.RichardGHP 99 wrote:98 solidifies my scum read on CMAR for the facts that he: Uses AtE; attemtps to lecture us on the definition of RVS; still believes that he is in control of the game; and resorts to profanity which had to be intercepted by the mod. GG.
Has anyone had a group job interview? Where you're in a room with a bunch of strangers, and there are people with clipboards and uniforms and nametags and perfect hair and dead eyes who have asked you to do something together to demonstrate your teamwork and leadership skills?
Well, there's always one guy who thinks he knows how to do everything and is so awesome - he runs in and grabs the straws (you have to turn them into a bridge to hold up pennies using only sticky tape and
TEAMWORK YAY
) and starts saying "alright this is what we're going to do" and you just know it's probably not going to work (why are you already bending the straws that will make the bridge weaker WHAT ARE YOU DOING STOP BENDING THE STRAWS STOP THAT
) and you just want him to get the fuck out so you can work as a team better. But you're stuck with him, and if you explode at him, you won't get the job, because they're watching you...Well, Richard is that guy. It's not all bad news for Richard, though; I think he's probably town, just as much as that guy always wants the job real bad and wants to impress everyone deep down with just how crushingly awesome he is. I admit freely that it's a gut read, but my gut finds the arguments put forth thus far to be unpersuasive.
Right now, most interested in Hayker. screams of wagon jumping, in that virtually everything vez has ever said is turned into a scumtell. "Filler" and "buddying" calls are the majority of Hayker's attempts to emphasise just how
original
his reasons for voting vez are. No comment on anything else in the game, before or since; not even a Raise vote or a discussion of how we should do it. Scum, obv scum.Unvote, Vote: Hayker
.I really don't want vez to explain, and I don't think other people should push for it. It's something to note, not prod at and let more information out. Softclaiming is bad, pushing to turn softclaims into hardclaims is just as bad.
I think we should raise the most protown person to Hand, and then they can enjoy their double vote and double scrutiny, as I have said before. I still like my xvart vote, though it is by no means final.
Firstly, not being hot for something doesn't always mean I think they're scum. I think some players can lead towns in effective ways, but CMAR is not doing so.Mina 177 wrote:Do you think "townleading" is a scumtell? I've always treated it as a towntell.
Still, I do think this kind of townleading can be scummy. Scum want to do things to look town that don't compromise their seekrit knowledge of their badness - helping to "organise" the town in some fashion or other is easy to do if the matter is of no consequence,
especially
when it's just been effectively copied-and-pasted from a playbook of a well-renowned scumhunter. Feigning sincerity and logic while faking scumhunting is hard, trying to get the town to agree to a trivial pro-town plan and attacking those who don't as anti-town is much easier.
