Square Enix Mafia I: Diabolus Erus (GAME OVER)

[AdumbroDeus]

Actually, wondering if thatguy is lich atm, he's been roleblocked and doom mysteriously vanished, but we don't have a lich kill, but why didn't the real doctor claim?

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Vote Count:

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Not Voting:

AdumbroDeus
Antifinity
bill1148
Chronopie
dramonic
Glork
JPSalazar
Midnight's Sorrow
thatguy00

Lynch:

5 votes.

Deadline:

June 25th - 5:00 PM EST

[Chronopie]

I thought that cursed = RB'd?

Therefore no doc protection...

Therefore, I'm guessing that we have another BP role of some kind. al la prana

[Chronopie]

lol x-posted.

Thatguy = Lich would explain the lack of kill/doom. but it would be silly of him to claim RB'd outright.

[bill1148]

This is a likely LoL.

Fake

Role-claim your water elemental character now.

[AdumbroDeus]

He seemed a bit unsure of what that entailed, maybe he simply made a mistake.


Dunno how the protections happened then though.



Also, the sudden change has me wierded out with Bill, it's possible he's scum trying to distract from lich (himself), but he might be right.


But there's a good chance he's right.


I support a mass roleclaim, if we can peg what we're looking for, then we should go for the other scum team. I suggest avoiding earth scum cause we don't know which team he is, but I'm certainly not discounting the possibility of actual elemental townies... yet.

[thatguy00]

I protected Glork. But it seems the Curse just made it pointless. I guess I was RB'd, should've known by paying attention to the Scene.

[Chronopie]

@Bill: the drownings inflicted on the scum team (and DTM, my bad) i.e. Water i.e. me, is

actually

a vig.

Name claim: Leviathan.

Role: Vig.

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Mass claiming via popcorn: Antifinity

[thatguy00]

@ thatguy Who did you protect Night 2?

I believe it was Devotress. That is, if I was in on Night Two, I think that was when I replaced? Not sure. Either way, I believe Devotress was protected before that, as I was told.

[AdumbroDeus]

@chrono, then where the **** is the roleblocking coming from? With kdub being roleblocked, that meant there had to be opposing scum, and the pattern doesn't match. Unless it's an indie, in which cause I have no clue what his win condition would be.

[Chronopie]

idk, I'm just a vig.

I'll go find some of my crumbs...

[JPSalazar]

I find it just too convenient that once I FoS'ed Bill, he popped up to provide some insight, and now he's seemingly taking charge...possibly in an attempt to lead people around by the nose. I'm not buying it.

I'll roleclaim if I have to (in fact I've offered in the past), but since we're also not under a constraint of beating the clock in terms of Doom, I'm throwing down the white glove.

Vote: bill1148

If I ignored a nagging feeling in my gut, in retrospect I'll look back and kick myself in the ass.

[bill1148]

@Bill: the drownings inflicted on the scum team (and DTM, my bad) i.e. Water i.e. me, is

actually

a vig.

Name claim: Leviathan.

Role: Vig.

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Mass claiming via popcorn: Antifinity

As I pointed out earlier, if Vig = drowned means that there aren't two scum and it requires ignoring the "reduced to nothing."

Leviathan = Cagnazzo

But while you're at it, dramonic said earlier about there existing certain strengths and weaknesses. What are yours?

[bill1148]

@ thatguy Who did you protect Night 2?

I believe it was Devotress. That is, if I was in on Night Two, I think that was when I replaced? Not sure. Either way, I believe Devotress was protected before that, as I was told.

Makes a bit of sense. Devo was blocked Night 3, I believe. The probably tried killing her Night 2 (the missing kill), and since it failed, they targeted her with Roleblocking the next night.

[bill1148]

I protected Glork. But it seems the Curse just made it pointless.

I guess I was RB'd

, should've known by paying attention to the Scene.

Were you informed that you were targeted by a "brown-cloaked" man?

[Chronopie]

Iso #0: I'm guessing elements are a big thing in this game. I'm also guessing that there is an

SK/

vig.

Iso #4: Water>Fire

? After all, we have a claimed Ifrit.

Iso #15: Was this the elemental Super-vote kinda thing? I'm assuming that you were asking about water orientation in particular bc lightning would be a ?double vote? vs water?

Cluster of other posts: Water hint, water hint... I'm just a plain voteless water elemental. water hint...

And looking at the inn: Dislike DTM...

And back to the thread: wouldn't mind seeing dead: #1 kdub

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I'm surprised I made it this far. btw: as I underlined above Water>Fire. and Lightning>water.

[bill1148]

I'll roleclaim if I have to (in fact I've offered in the past), but since we're also not under a constraint of beating the clock in terms of Doom, I'm throwing down the white glove.

Translation: I need more time for a Fake-Claim.

Oh yeah, you just threw your vote on me in a

possible

probable LoL. If you're not scum, you officially fall into the category of idiot Town. Congratulations.

3. JPSalazar
8. Glork
10. Chronopie (claimed Leviathan [Vig] - highly doubtful = Cagnazzo)
11. Antifinity
13. thatguy00 (claimed doctor)
16. bill1148 (Regent Cid from FF9 [vanilla])
17. dramonic (claimed Ramuh)
19. AdumbroDeus
21. Midnight's Sorrow (Rikken from FF12 [vanilla])

[AdumbroDeus]

Hmmm, I wanna see the votecount on this.


I have a sneaking suspicion that we've got 2 scum teams essentially fighting it out right now.


Why did Bill come in with this grand theory today? What if he dropped both the NK and the doom because he realized, if he picked wrong, other scum team would win. Then he comes in attempting to lead town.


Just a theory mind you, but it's certainly possible.


If Bill comes up with 0 votes OR 2 votes (cause we're missing a fire and an earth), I think they're both scum. If it's two, that makes it easy, we pick JP, if not, it's a toss-up, and we auto-lose if we pick wrong.

[bill1148]

Iso #0: I'm guessing elements are a big thing in this game. I'm also guessing that there is an

SK/

vig.

Iso #4: Water>Fire

? After all, we have a claimed Ifrit.

Iso #15: Was this the elemental Super-vote kinda thing? I'm assuming that you were asking about water orientation in particular bc lightning would be a ?double vote? vs water?

Cluster of other posts: Water hint, water hint... I'm just a plain voteless water elemental. water hint...

And looking at the inn: Dislike DTM...

And back to the thread: wouldn't mind seeing dead: #1 kdub

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I'm surprised I made it this far. btw: as I underlined above Water>Fire. and Lightning>water.

Suspecting those players doesn't do squat for you, sorry. DTM pissed off numerous players, had a scum list of like 9 people before he died, and was the most "thorough" of everyone in the game. Anyone could have wanted him dead.

As for suspecting Kdub, killing off a rival scum member doesn't mean you're innocent.

[JPSalazar]

No, I officially was placed as an impatient Townie a few nights ago. Nice try.

I love how people flaunt the 'idiot town' tag across the game when they are being targeted.

And since you're most probably going to ride my ass the rest of the time, here:

I am Galuf Baldesian, a Town Commuter. I was targeted for Doom last night, but it failed. I used the Jump command last night, so perhaps that's how I avoided it. I do use the Earth Crystal in order to use Jump, so there's one of your two Earth elementals.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Galuf_Halm_Baldesion

[Chronopie]

Those I wouldn't mind seeing dead, by Lynch, or Vig:

11. Antifinity
16. Bill1148 (just been giving me scummy vibes)
17. dramonic (for forcing the lynch D3)

4. Kdub

- Booyah, Tiamat

22. MPR (Is he even still around? Lurker alert, worked for BV)

- Kraken

13.

Thatguy00 (based mostly on WE's atrocious play) - Doc, no kill.

Just thought I'd repost this.

[Chronopie]

The fact remains that killing off DTM was a, at the time, a pro-town move. he looked scummy, therefore it was in the town's best interest to kill him off. It would have been in the scum's best interest to leave him as mislynch material. amirite?

[bill1148]

"Imapatient Town" isn't an excuse.

Also, some problems with your claim.

a) Just as a Doctor isn't directly informed that the player they tried to save was targeted, neither should a commuter be informed when they are targeted with abilities that miss. So how do you *know* that you were targeted last night?
b) Your claim is earth-elemental *cough*Scarmiglione/Lich*cough*
c) You didn't mention earlier you were targeted by Doom last night.

3. JPSalazar (Galuf Baldesian [commuter] = Scarmiglione/Lich)
8. Glork
10. Chronopie (claimed Leviathan [Vig] - highly doubtful = Cagnazzo)
11. Antifinity
13. thatguy00 (Ceodore Harvey [doctor])
16. bill1148 (Regent Cid from FF9 [vanilla])
17. dramonic (claimed Ramuh)
19. AdumbroDeus
21. Midnight's Sorrow (Rikken from FF12 [vanilla])

[dramonic]

@ thatguy Who did you protect Night 2?

I believe it was Devotress. That is, if I was in on Night Two, I think that was when I replaced? Not sure. Either way, I believe Devotress was protected before that, as I was told.

Makes a bit of sense. Devo was blocked Night 3, I believe. The probably tried killing her Night 2 (the missing kill), and since it failed, they targeted her with Roleblocking the next night.

Kdub claimed to be blocked yesterday. That can certainly explain why there was no electrocution.
What I don't explain is what happened on night 1. From the perspective of two mafia factions, the missing kill makes almost 0 sense. Scarmiglione is obviously the roleblocker, and not associated in some mix'n'match with the ff1 archfiends. Now, thatguy fakeclaiming doc could've made sense to explain the lack of kill yesterday after Kdub claimed RBed to "save" him, but then where is the night 1 kill? RB is stupid, it would mean targetting what is most prob a teammate, mafia doc protecting glork of all people is random, and Prana kept screaming he wouldn't die, you'd expect mafia to aim somewhere else after the blatant BP crumbs.

I think the most likely case is lich didn't doom in order to attempt to frame whoever got roleblocked. Therefore thatguy = town for now.

@bill: strong against lightning, weak to water. Wish I'd be electrocuted a few times XP

[bill1148]

The fact remains that killing off DTM was a, at the time, a pro-town move. he looked scummy, therefore it was in the town's best interest to kill him off. It would have been in the scum's best interest to leave him as mislynch material. amirite?

No it wasn't. It's in scum's best interest to kill rival scums, other killers, and town players who won't STFU. DTM fit into 2 out of 3.

Besides it stands to argue that the Vig fake-claim was being set up when it became apparent a Vig didn't exist.

Hunting one scum team while conveniently ignoring the other =/= innocence.

[dramonic]

this topic is going fast right now <<